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(Player Event) SPLOTTO! - Current Jackpot 792,000 gps

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by MissEcho, Nov 19, 2016.

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    SPLotto !! (Siege Perilous Lotto)


    Details:
    • SPLotto is easy to play! Players wishing to participate may submit an entry each month by paying the entry fee of 5000 gps and selecting a 4-digit number of their choice. Each digit must be a number from 1 to 6. (Eg: 1234, 3456, 4444, 2266, etc). You may enter as many times as you wish by paying an additional entry fee. The more you enter the more chance you have of winning and the larger the prize pool becomes!
    • On the last day of each month a draw will be made at Skara Brae Community Centre (or other venue as announced) in the presence of witnesses by the rolling of two dice. The total prize pool for the month will be advised prior to the draw.
    • The numbers rolled will form that months winning SPLotto number.
    • If a player has entered that number they will ‘win’ the SPLotto draw for the month and collect the prize pool. If two or more people enter the same number the prize pool will be split accordingly in equal shares.
    • In the event that no one enters the winning number then the prize pool will Jackpot to the following month, in full, and be added to the following months draw. The amount will keep jackpotting until it is won.
    • If you do not win at the end of the months draw you must re-enter to be eligible for the next month. Entries only apply to the month entered and do NOT carry forward month to month.
    How to Enter:

    Write your unique player number, your Character's name and the number you wish to enter onto a book title, and place it in a bag with your 5000 gps. Please check to ensure it is accurate before submitting. See example below. (Note: Your player number may be seen by typing the word ‘test’ into general chat). If you wish to enter more than one number put your numbers inside one book and submit the required entry fee (5k per number) in the bag so eg: for 10 numbers put the numbers in the book and 50k gold with your name and player number in the book title.

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    In the above example Eshelle has entered number 3241 into the draw.


    Where to Enter:
    • Deposit the book in Coco’s Vendor Mall mailbox (next to Umbra Hub) or
    • Ask in general chat and Eshelle/Coco from Ice Cove Events [ICY] will meet you at a GZ location and take your entry.
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    Rules and Other Information:

    About the Roll:

    The example below demonstrates how the winning 4-digit number will be decided. In the example the circled numbers 1 5 5 4 would form the winning 4 digit number for that roll. The winning number must be in the exact order as shown (i.e. the first two numbers, in order, on roll one, then the numbers in order on roll 2). The total on each roll does not form part of the winning number.

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    How the Prize Pool is made up:

    Each month the prize pool payout is 90% of the total gp collected for the months draw. Eg: if there are 30 entries @5k ea the total gps collected = 150,000 of which 90% will be issued as the prize pool for that months draw i.e. 135,000 gps. The remaining 10% goes to Ice Cove Events for future prizes/costs of producing events. If the prize pool is not won at the end of the months draw the 135,000 gps will Jackpot to the following month and be added to the prize pool for the following month (after commission is taken from that months collection).

    Winner Payouts:

    ICY will announce regularly in chat for the winner to come and collect funds however it is also up to the winner to ensure they collect their monies promptly by checking this forum to see if they won and notifying ICY how and when they wish to pick up their winnings. Winnings will only be ‘held’ for one month and must be picked up before the drawing of the next months SPLotto.

    Recording and Audit:

    All names and numbers submitted will be advised each month on the Ice Cove Events guild forum on Stratics. Total amount collected, issued and/or jackpotted will be available for information to any interested party. Jackpotting amount will be advised and all winners’ names and payouts will be recorded. Prize pool, Jackpots and Winners will also be announced in this thread on the SP Forum.


    End Game:

    In the event of Ice Cove Events deciding to stop running SPLotto the final draw will roll numbers until such time as the prize pool is won. If it is to be a final draw it will be announced on the forum to that effect giving anyone time to get an entry in if they so wish. All players who have entered in previous months will also have their names and entry numbers included in this final draw.

    November Draw:

    As this draw is commencing 'mid month' as the introductory event, Ice Cove Events will donate 100,000gps to the first prize pool! So get your entries in now to be the inaugural winner of the SPLotto!
     
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    March Draw (Drawn 31 March 2017)

    Current numbers in draw:

    1117
    1464
    1553
    2264
    2626
    3434
    4322
    4334
    4343
    4535
    5111
    5222
    5333
    5444
    5555
    6262

    Month Entry Fees 80,000
    -10% Commission 8000
    Monthly Jackpot Value 72,000

    Jackpot Carried Forward 720,000

    Total Combined Jackpot 792,000




    Previous Draws:



    First Draw 30 the November 2016 Winning number: 2612 Jackpot not won. Rolls to next month drawn on 31st December 2016.
    Second Draw 31 December 2016 Winning number: 3415 Jackpot not won. Rolls to next month drawn 31 January 2017.
    Third Draw 31 January 2017 Winning number: 6356 Jackpot not won. Rolls to next month drawn 28th February 2017
    Fourth Draw 28 February 2017, Winning number 4515 Jackpot not won. Rolls to next month drawn 31 March 2017

    See
    Ticket Archive Previous Draws: ICE COVE EVENTS - GUILD PAGE
     

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  3. Blind Otto

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    I just had to poke my nose in here to make sure it wasn't someone looking for me... Siege Perilous ! Otto
    No? I'll go back to what I was doing, then.
    *grins*
     
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    Im in!
     

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    So which one of you won, you or Tanivar ? :p
     
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    I've got like 10 of 1296 possible numbers, odds are I won't be a winner THIS month, but I'll win eventually! $$Ka-Ching!$$ :)

    Beats the State lottery odds of dying by a lightning hit 17 or whatever times before winning big there. :gee:
     
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    I'll add

    1234
    5612
    3456
    1625
    2345
     
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    Perhaps you should just have a winner each month?
    Roll the dice until a registered number comes up. As it is now it could be two years until we see our first winner.
    I think more would be a part of it then. I know I would at least. ;)
    Just a suggestion... :)
     
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    There's 1296 possible numbers, that could be a very long session of rolling the dice.

    I'd rather see the gold pile up into a serious pile of $Ka-ching$! It would tempt more people to play then. :)

    Beats the state lottery here where your more likely to die by lightning something like 17 times before winning the big one. :eek2:
     
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    I actually ran this on oceania for well over a yr, and in that time it went off about 4 times with jackpots in the high millions each time, however it seemed people there were much bigger gamblers I guess :) It was rare that at least a few million wasn't added per month. Most people would generally toss in 20-50k (4 to 10 bets per month) worth of bets so it didnt actually take long to get a huge jackpot up and lots of numbers into the roll. Some people would actually toss in 100k (20 bets) and this was NOT unusual. You only need 10 people to bet 50k to make 500k. Sieges population is a lot bigger than Oceania's. The population there was a lot smaller than on siege so I am a bit surprised. Given that making money on here is identical to all shards when it comes to monster loot I have been wondering as to the lack of killer gambling instinct and tiny bets lol. If I could bet I would be tossing in 50k worth of bets as money is easy made, less than an hour of miasma a month nets you way more than that. But that is me and I can't bet, or I would lol.

    The odds of it going off each month greatly increase with the amount of people entering so no it doesn't make sense to keep rolling until it goes off, not to mention at this rate I would probably get rsi clicking finger rolling the dice plus I would need to record each roll for 'fairness'. With the total amount of bets placed so far it is not worth rolling it out, I would be better putting each bet in a book locking them down and getting a third party to pick a book to 'win' as it would be quicker than rolling. Hopefully I don't need to do this :) It would be nice to have people actually playing and building up the jackpot than quitting now :)

    It takes all of 5 seconds to write numbers in a book, toss in the coin put in a bag and dump it in Coco's mail. Anyways, I will see at the end of January, and if it hasn't engendered more interest will just roll it/book it out and finish it lol. Not gonna flog a dead horse, this was meant as a tester event.

    Anyways, I live in hope, off to check the mail.
     
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    *nods*
    Fair enough. :)
     
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    How often are taken numbers updated on this page??
     
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    as i get the entries in. Just logged on as i write this and about to check the mail :)
     
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    Maybe we are not for 4 digit, what about changing it to 3 digit, that will give 216 numbers instead of 1296. Then increase entry fee too 10k or even 25k, that would give a way better chance for winning.

    As it is now, we have 1296 numbers of 5k, so if all are choosen, it is 6.48 mill, but it can take years before we get a winner as only around 30 numbers are choosen and we are not near the 6 mill, more 150k, not really worth it.

    With 3 digit and entry fee og 25k, we will have 216 numbers and if all are choosen 5.4 mills and a way better chance of winning.

    Lets say, we are avg 30 active players on Siege paying 4 numbers each, that is already half of the number and still 3 mills for the month.

    For young players, it could be a good way to try to win some start money. They could still choose to buy a number together, if they find the fee to high.
     
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    Naaa sorry, it works with the way the dice are set up. As I said, have run it as is on much lower population shard than siege with NO problems. It just needs people to participate, and so far hardly any are so that is the actual problem.

    The first month only 9 people purchased tickets (some only buying 1 etc) , this month so far only 7 people have, so I guess all the 'support' just isnt there or people just are not interested in this type of thing. I went along to the 'gil' story night and there were more than that in just that room, and there are a hell of a lot more people in gen chat on any given day than I ever saw on Oceania. I was hoping siege 'community' would assist but seems not right now, but I haven't given up yet, will see by the end of next month, then roll it out and stop unless I see more activity.

    I just went back through the records I kept and for the first 12 weeks I ran it on Oceania we had an average of 123 tickets sold per Week. In the first 12 weeks the jackpot didnt go off twice, the other weeks the jackpot was won, then we went to monthly so that the pot was 'bigger' and it was less work. 123 tickets was like 12 people buying 10 tickets each for 50k. We were actually surprised at how many times it actually went off, as on the odds you wouldnt of thought it would go off that much.

    I could afford to toss 100k per month into if if other ppl were running it, and I have only been here for 4 mths so it isn't that people dont/cant have money or that 'new' players are disadvantaged, people that have been on this shard for years should have pots of money. Sure genuine 'new' players here might not have much but it doesnt take long at all to make money, here is no different to prodo shards in that respect, in fact from my experience it is quicker making $$ here as everything is a lot cheaper, you dont pay insurance each time ya die, and the amount of gold monsters drop is identical to prodo shards. I am not sure that reducing the numbers and upping the cost would actually 'solve' the issue of people not participating.

    I am about to put up an additional 500k as a prize for the next thing I am gonna run, and have 3 mil set aside for my Casino which is also ready to go, just waiting til after xmas new yr. I am not being stubborn or anything just not really wanting to muck around if the support for something isnt there :)
     
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    Maybe people just have been busy with the Christmas trees this month. I know, I had not brought any tickets yet but I still have a day, so I believe I will find the way to Umbra even when I'm really broken after my meeting with this greedy Christmas Elves :)
     
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    Try the 3 dice number ignoring the fourth one, A six times higher chance of winning might do the trick on getting people to play. Upping the 5k to a higher amount might help as well if it raises the pot to at least a half million a month. Light up the dollar signs in everyone's eyes. I seldom agree with Freja but she's got a good idea. :)
     
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    Not really sure if that would do anything to get participation. Sure I can up the ticket cost but that could make less people play. For say 25k per ticket most people are gonna buy 1, whereas the same amount will get them 5 tickets in the current set up. So the 'odds' of it going off are pretty similar, eg 10 people buy 1 ticket so 10 tickets out of 216 or 10 ppl spend the same and you get 50 tickets out of 1296. It is basically participation that is the key and hmmmm hehe people not being stingy too I guess. I think as the pot goes up then the participation will go up too. I am kinda suprised at the amounts people bet tho. 50k a month was what I was assuming most ppl (average) could cough up for a chance. 10 tickets at 5k per in a MONTH. Not like getting gold is that hard. You want to maximise participation so 5k is really the most I would want to charge per ticket, this allows the really poor and newer players to have a go, and those who are rich can shell out lots more if they choose.

    What you have to be careful of tho is the rich just buying each combination of tickets (especially once the pot gets up). On that lower amount of 216 if I was charging 5k per then for just over a mil they can buy every possible combination and take the jackpot . Not good. At 1296 possible combos then they would have to shell out 6.4 mil which is a much dif proposition, not to mention a huge amount of time to fill out 1296 worth of tickets and the risk of having their win 'halfed' if someone else had selected the winning number. When we originally ran it that was one of the main factors in us settling on the 4 digit as opposed to lower or higher. 4 fell into the range of 'doable' on a small shard but not impossible. It is finding the balance on what people want to spend per ticket and we found between 1-5k was the preferred amount and then how many combinations it would take to make buying them all out not practicle. Lower digit numbers vastly increases the risk of some rich bugger just letting the pot get up and taking it. Even at 1296 combos that is still a risk here, but I wasn't sure how 'rich' the people on siege are in comparison to prodo now. If I was running it on prodo, given that so many people are in the billionaire category it would probably have to be 50-100k per ticket on a 4 digit roll so they would need to shell out close to 65-125 mil to 'buy it out'. Or actually increase the roll to include all 6 numbers, the two dice and total on each roll. There is always a risk of that and I guess the first time it happened you wouldn't bother any more or you would need to set a limit on tickets per etc, but then you have the problem of 'guilds' doing the buying etc etc. It relies on goodwill. Anyways, we shall see at the end of next month :) Perhaps once people have the chance to win half a mil or more it may improve. Right now Tanivar you are in with the best chance as you have bought the most tickets :) :) :)
     
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    That's five for December and 15 total, maybe we don't have many lottery buffs on Siege. Though I'm not one RL I still will toss some gold into game gambling. Got something like 14 or 15 million gold between Tanivar, Landreu, and the house safe so I can risk the loot from a couple hunting trips a month. :)
     
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    I think you will like the casino then heeh. *evil grin*
     
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    Wear that long dress you used to wear while your at the casino and I'll be led astray. :)
     
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    You right about that but I only need one book and one bag. Also the 10 players may bot buy 10 tickets each, I did not, but I believe I would have brought one at 25k, maybe even for both Tina and Freja.
    You may be right, I can't see how many tickets each did buy, if each did buy 5 each, odds are the same.
    Lets see how it goes for Januar.
     
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    OK guys and dolls!

    It is halfway through the month, lets get your entries in for this months SPLotto and see if we can get it to go off! 5k to enter and enter as many times as you like. Current Jackpot is 549,000.

    Don't forget entries are 4 digits with all digits being between 1 and 6 (ie 1234, 4565). So DO NOT USE numbers 7,8,9,0 in your picks. You may put more than one entry in a book, and place entry and gold in Coco's Letterbox!

    Good Luck all, will update the Jackpot as entries come in. First Number is In. Don't forget you have to be in it to win it.
     
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    Do you add to the list of numbers from the previous months or do they start over?
     
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    Each month is new. If I stop before the jackpot is won then ALL previous entries will go into the draw and I will roll it out until someone wins. I have a record of all names and numbers entered on the guild forum page (see my sig). Each month as the jackpot gets bigger more entries are coming in, so hopefully it will go off shortly :)

     
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    Off topic, sorry... Splotto means drunk where I am :) I stumbled in to the wrong place lol. Amazing idea though & I may copy it if you don't mind @MissEcho.
     
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    @Herp! Well Blotto means drunk where I am. It was called plain old Lotto when I ran it on Oceania, but given this is Siege Perious I figured I would pinch the S & P and shove it on the front to make it special ... S P L O T T O !!

    Feel free to copy, just pick another shard lol
     
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    @MissEcho it would be on Legends :D I'd never come in and take something from someone doing something so great for a shard. Also it is blotto I was thinking of... maybe I'm a little too, nevermind.
     
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    Bah, bummer again :wall:
     
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    Reminder time again to get in your splotto numbers. If you haven't previously entered maybe now is the time! Ya'll leaving it til the last minute as usual !

    See second post in this thread for current numbers for March, and the first post for details on how to enter. Remember your 4 digit number must only consist of numbers between 1 and 6 (so do not use 0 7 8 9).

    Multiple entries in the one book are fine, 5k per entry.

    Current Jackpot is 742,500 gps
     
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    So, not to be the bringer of bad news and dont like being negative , but there is a Reason that gamling is illegal and banned in Most games.

    On a small server like this, the odds of winning the lottery is pretty much non existant, and that is based on the assumption that it is being run legit, and the explenations given against making the odds better are invalid.

    That, plus the fact that the organizer in this care is more worried about the number of People participating and claiming that 10% commision is for "costs" ( there are no costs ) , just adds up to par simple thing in my humble opinion:

    - this is nothing but a way for the organizer to make easy money with little time invested and no risk at all.

    Im amazed that stratics even Allow gambling at all.

    So i Will not be participating, nor would i ever recommend anyone to, except if it was for a Good cause.
     
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    I have to admit, I too dislike the increase of different kind of gamling in this game but at least this one is not cross shard games. The Deal or No Deal threads really annoy me and I wish them off the Siege forum.

    Should it be illegal? I don't think so, it's only ingame gold, unless you start to trade RL Cash for ingame gold to play it.
     
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    It has been stated in several courts around the world ( especially in USA ) that it is classified as gambling and require gambling license even if rewards are completely digital. I don't have anything specific to link you right now, but i know for a fact that has been american based which UO is. That, together with the fact that there is no way for anyone to oversee it all to know that it is legit at all.. well..

    and i don't know a single country in the World that doesnt have an age limit for Gambling, which also cant be enforced here...

    Yes, yes i Think it should be illegal.

    But only my silly opinions. Hopefully less people participate, so the "problem" dissapear.
     
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    Arradin, chill, :p, it's just the loot of a half dozen monsters per bet that would otherwise sit in your bank box until EA pulls the plug on this wonderful game some day and it all the gold goes away. She's not some evil lowlife with a sword to our throats making us give her what would otherwise put food in our children's mouths or something dark and vile like that. She's just adding a bit of additional fun to the game. :rolleyes2:

    Sheesh ... the lass has made a whole 3500 gold with the 10% she takes running SPlotto so far this month, she'd likely make more gold more quickly out hunting. :)

    And so I go toss in my five numbers for the month, a whole few monsters of loot, instead of adding a few coins to my millions gathering digital dust in my bank boxes. :D
     
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  35. Arradin

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    Yes, and the fact that she doesnt make Money is the reason she want to pull the plug , so much for Community event.

    Anyhow, that is your opinion, i stated mine. I will not de-rail ( or bump ) this thread anymore.
     
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    I do believe Coco love making events and events are good for the game, I have to agree with Tanivar, the 10 % is not worth the time she put in it, she could make gold way faster from hunting.
    Also 5k is not much, even a newbie can make 5k very fast. Siege is not RL and we do not really own the gold, we are not allowed to trade it for RL cash.
     
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    Sheesh talk about people getting their knickers in a twist. But just to be clear the '10%' was due to me being new on this shard, 5 months ago (when this started) I had been here for 2 months and didn't have much money, the 10% was to cover the 100k I put in to start with. As of now I am 12,000 gps DOWN, so yeah mate, I am in it to make money. Funny, seems a 5k flutter is the stuff of hellfire and yet the whole game, especially on siege, is running round murdering people. How about you go get a life and while you are at it you better get out your Wowser Pants and write a letter to Mesanna condemning her for the UO Casino. Have a nice day :)

    Oh and you may need to google that.

    Anyways, more numbers in for this month, current jackpot 792,000.
     
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    Seriously.. its for fun. People profit off of others every day.. be it looting, vendor price hiking or stealing. The latter unlikely as there are no Thieves on Siege. Get over it people.
     
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    well why are you then?

    way to make a comeback on Siege and get a reputation for being a negative nancy with only a hand full of silly posts...
     
  40. Arradin

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    Dude , i could not care less if someone wants to judge me for voicing my opinion on scams and general bad behavior, get over yourself.

    Voiced my opinion on gambling, Most People want it around, Fair enough!

    Diskussion boards are for discussions, and the outright aggression from People involved and friends just proves my point.
     
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    This arradin guy is actually serious? Damn
     
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