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*SPOILER* client 7.0.34 text strings

Discussion in 'UHall' started by R Traveler, Nov 14, 2013.

  1. R Traveler

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    Something not in publish notes but worth separate post
    Opt In to Search
    Opt Out of Search
    Vendor Search Enabled
    Vendor Search Disabled
    Please select 'Accept' if you would like to pay ~1_cost~ gold to teleport to vendor shop ~2_name~. For this price you will also be able to teleport back to this location within the next ~3_minutes~ minutes.
    Return to Previous Location
    Please select 'Accept' if you would like to return to ~1_loc~ (~2_facet~). This map will be deleted after use.
    Return to ~1_loc~ (~2_facet~)
    Vendor Located at ~1_loc~ (~2_facet~)
     
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  2. Troop

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    Interesting. ;)
     
  3. R Traveler

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    I like the fact they listened to suggestions of a map and the opting in and out.
     
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  5. Lorddog

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    the only problem with spoiler tags is that the text still shows up in the mouse over of the link in the main uhall listing.
     
  6. Orgional Farimir

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    but if it says *SPOILER* in the title shouldn't everyone know not to click on it if they don't want to see the spoiler?
     
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    yay for putting in a solution to a (non) problem that has had a 3rd party solution for many years!
     
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  8. MalagAste

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    That is NOT a solution..... they only do people who they want to do..... they don't do EVERY vendor....
     
  9. DJAd

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    I cannot wait for this!
     
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  10. Kojak

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    VendorScanner2000 - hehe
     
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    As someone with a fully stocked Atlantic Luna vendor that rarely shows up on the 3rd party sites, maybe once every week or two while others are updated every 10 mins, I beg to differ that it isn't a problem that needed a solution.
     
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  12. Lorddog

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    I am not even talking about clicking it. just mousing over the link shows you the text inside the spoiler from the uhall main listing.
     
  13. Dot_Warner

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    The opt out option is interesting. Anyone who uses it is basically shooting themselves in the foot.
     
  14. claudia-fjp

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    Or has BOD storage vendors.
     
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  15. DJAd

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    Hmmmm not always. Lets say for example somebody sells an item on Stratics and leaves it on a vendor for another player to pickup. By opting out of search it stops other people being able to buy it before the intended player.
     
  16. MalagAste

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    Exactly or say your vendor is mostly for guildies or newbs and you don't want some resaler buying up all your stock for new people to get cheaply and reselling it at high prices you can opt out and then the reseller won't have such an easy time finding your vendor as newbs do... that you give runes to..... make sense?
     
  17. THP

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    awesome....still cant understand why my thread was locked when i simply asked for an update when this would happen...oh well...its happening...happy as larry
     
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    all I know is, this better happen for CC
     
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  19. DJAd

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    So what do you guys think, is this coming in next publish? No mention in the patch notes but would make a fantastic Christmas present.
     
  20. startle

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    Bonnie said she was hoping for the end of October, emphasis on hoping... That didn't happen, but this latest info is quite encouraging.... It would make a fantastic Christmas present!
     
  21. Viper09

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    I was under the impression that the vendor search is intended to be a feature that many have been requesting, not a solution to some "problem."
     
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    Many people have requested a classic shard. Many people have requested lots of crazy nonsense.
     
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    ...and unlike the classic shard, it appears that the vendor search request is being fulfilled.
    ...and just because you find it crazy nonsense doesn't mean other people hate it too (as evidenced by numerous posts).
     
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  24. startle

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    Are you, WootSauce, suggesting that having an ingame Vendor Search is "crazy nonsense" ?
     
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  25. DJAd

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    BUMP!!

    Lets have a progress report please devs.
     
  26. Eaerendil

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    I will LOVE the vendor search. And I think, I will leave Luna with my shop as soon as it is online! Can´t wait to move to an island with a pirate inn and a lighthouse!!!
     
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    Personally, I'm giving Bonnie the benefit of the doubt.... I know she wants it and we've seen references in the code. I also am certain that when it finally goes live - Bonnie wants it to be both worthy and solid.
    By now I'm sure she wishes she hadn't uttered any reference to time frame, but she did. She wants to make it work for the economy, but also has the task of making it as non-exploitative as she can.... Let's give her a bit longer before the wolves come out, ok?
     
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  28. hen

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    You really don't need a Luna vendor on Drach.
     
  29. Martell

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    Anyone can request their vendor be put on the service. I've yet to hear anyone get declined. Leads me to assume that if you are declined you went out of your way to piss someone off.

    So this will be introduced in next publish, will be buggy, will be fixed over the course of several months. Can't wait.
     
  30. Ox AO

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    interesting but it doesn't look like it will do all shard searches.
     
  31. Smoot

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    will this be easily scripted? should i worry that people will script it 24/7, buying say violet courages and heart of the lions whenever one pops up for less than 10k, only to resel for 20k?
     
  32. WootSauce

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    I..I..um..uhh... Christ, I hope you aren't serious
     
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  33. MalagAste

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    Actually I've never really had vendors but friends who do have turned in runes a dozen times or more yet their vendors are still NOT on the site so I don't want to hear about how it is.... because it's a lie... I'm told it's because we are RPers and we are mean...
     
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    as most of us have 100m or more loose gold owning commodity lock on one item maybe a thing

    lol will be fun
     
  35. Tjalle

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    I for one hope that it is done properly so the 3rd party sites gets less traffic.
     
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    did you ever consider that vendor search is only gonna make the 3rd party sites work a whole lot better? hehe
     
  37. Martell

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    The site will probably refresh itself more than the UO one will (which will probably only do server up/down). The UO system will also probably be buggy for a few months after launch. The site also has live reps that you can talk to pretty easily to resolve any troubles you may have.
    Also, since this site has been around for like 8 YEARS (way to catch up devs!) I'll probably just stick to it out of habit and trust in its smooth functioning. That's just me personally.
     
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    How do you figure that?

    The search sites buy up items and take them off the UO Market which they can they turn around and sell for RL $$. Don't think for a second that list of items that comes up when you perform a search hasn't been rummaged through by those search sites prior to you seeing what's available.

    Th vendor search and functionality is a great addition to UO and benefits ALL players in so many ways.

    No more Luna dominance over the UO economy and we can see a return to the mom and pop just like the good old days of old.

    On a side not I'm sure glad I didn't buy that Luna House I was considering. Luna real estate will plummet if this goes into effect and I for one won't shed a tear. :p
     
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    I don't have any idea what kind of impact the in-game search feature might have on 3rd party sites. Nor do I care. What I do know is that I would never consider using a 3rd party site to find something if I have access to a good search system within UO.
     
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    The site runs on a script. No one is looking at vendor results, buying the good stuff, and then publishing a refreshed vendor list. Great idea though :p .

    The site already takes non luna houses too so I think your theory of prices plummeting is pretty off. Luna is conveniently located around a bank and moongate, hard to beat that.
     
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    Location is almost meaningless when the in-game system appears to allow you to teleport to the shop and back again.
     
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    not if you have to pay to be teleported and only have a few minutes to teleport back
     
  43. Kojak

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    think about it for approximately 2 microseconds genius and you'll come up with the reason ... time's up - the reason it'll work better is because now they'll have the items listed for EVERY vendor on the shard instead of just a few around luna
     
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    Unless there are hooks built into the new search system that a third party can use for data mining, this theory is complete BS. From the spoiler thread its fairly obvious that you search for items, not a "show me everything on every vendor RIGHT NOW." Third party sites would need to be constantly searching for every item to have current prices, that kind of system load should be easy to track.

    If hooks are built into the system, it would expose a level of corruption that would have made GM Darwin blush. I'm fairly confident this won't be the case.
     
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    If something like this goes in, and doesn't fall apart at the last moment....3 things.

    1 - Luna will survive. It's still the most convenient spot for browsing -- for shopping when you don't really know what you are looking for. Also as a general bank-sitting, merchant-ing location. Luna vendors will still be valuable to have just not as and not in the same way.

    2 - The search sites will survive. They offer a proven interface (imagine the bugs this new search will have for the first month...2 months....), have loyal customers, and offer additional services beyond the vendor searching.

    3 - Based on what we've seen it doesn't seem likely that the search sites will be able effectively to use the new search for their data. If they do then, to be blunt, what difference does it make? Then the search sites survive and have data for every vendor as opposed to just Luna and a few others places. And those who don't want to use the 3rd party solution don't have to. And if the 3rd party sites have the kind of connection that could let them collect all that data in some other manner, then they'd be doing it already.

    -Galen's player
     
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    Oh, well - it was quite nice for some years. No rune dropping anymore... Was less work and brought good cash. But honestly, I always disliked Luna :)
     
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    Why should the average player want to search all shards? He doesn't get any benefit, if he finds the item on a different shard than he's playing...

    In the CC you can script almost everything. So yeah, most probably.
    But if I want to sell an item, why should I care, if wether average joe or a reseller is buying it?
    I just want the gold. That's why I'm selling after all...

    Right now if I want to sell something I advertise it in general chat for a few minutes once in a while. Needless to say, that I sell almost nothing. This system will be a huge improvement and will make having a vendor feasible and profitable, without having to put a lot of effort into it (I rather like to play the game instead to mark and drop runes to my shop everywhere)
     
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    There are half a dozen shards I would like to search together, when I'm looking for something important enough to use transfer tokens. Still, I suppose the new system would let me log on each shard in turn, no big deal.
     
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    [13/12/15][10:47:25] [Mesanna]: If we put in a secured trader
    [13/12/15][10:48:04] [Mesanna]: would you be upset if we charged a 1% fee?
    [13/12/15][10:48:40] [Mesanna]: we would come up with a check book that all the money would in the form of a check book
    [13/12/15][10:48:49] [Mesanna]: or something like that in the bank
    [13/12/15][10:49:02] [Mesanna]: Honestly we are brainstorming the ideas
    [13/12/15][10:49:16] [Mesanna]: I have been getting alot of emails lately about this subject
    [13/12/15][10:49:38] [Mesanna]: so thats on my list of things I want to put in the game
     
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