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(SPOILER!) New Ways to Craft Imbuing Ingredients

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Tina Small, Oct 8, 2009.

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  1. Tina Small

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    Poking around on some of the crafting gumps on Origin (which has received the Publish 61 publish), I've noticed some new methods for making imbuing ingredients:

    Mortar and Pestle:
    Bottle of Ichor requires 75 Magery and 90 Alchemy skill; 1 Darkglow Poison, and 30 Spider's Silk.

    Vial of Vitriol requires 75 Magery and 90 Alchemy skill; 1 Parasitic Poison and 30 Nightshade.

    Sewing Kit:
    Abyssal Cloth requires 110 Tailoring; 1 Crystalline Blackrock and 10 Bolts of Cloth.

    Smith's Hammer (or other blacksmithing tool):
    Crushed Glass requires 110 Blacksmithing; 1 Blue Diamond and 5 Glass Swords.

    Powdered Iron requires 110 Blacksmithing; 1 White Pearl, and 20 Ingots.

    Tinker Tool
    Arcanic Rune Stone requires 90 Tinkering and 80 Magery skill; 1 Crystal shards and 5 Power Crystals.

    Void Orb requires 90 Tinkering and 80 Magery skill; 1 Dark Sapphire and 50 Black Pearl.


    Will post additional info as I find it. Carpentry, Cooking, and Inscription tools, as well as Mallet and Chisel and Blow Pipe listed no craftable imbuing ingredients (that I could find). Will try to find if any NPCs are selling new types of tools and see if the imbuing menu itself offers anything new for creating ingredients.
     
  2. guum

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    *crosses fingers for arcane rune stones & seeds of renewal being craftable*

    those things are a serious PITA to farm.
     
  3. Assia Penryn

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    Great find, Tina! Thanks for sharing the information!
     
  4. Tina Small

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    Haven't come across any new tools yet and the Imbuing gump, at least based on a cursory review, looks unchanged.
     
  5. Maplestone

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    hmm ... on it's own this trades one rare ingredient for another so I assume somewhere there is a source of crystalline blackrock (*makes note to finally dust off a miner*)
     
  6. jfkeach

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    I got crystalline Blackrock off of the Rat spawn in the dungeon. Found on the Ratmen corpse. Not a mineable resource that I know of.
     
  7. Oh Devs. Bad idea. Good for me since im not making an imbuing characture and intend to buddy with someone and/or buy stuff...

    Bad for imbuing. Market saturation on the way.

    Only a matter of time, like what 3 days, before stuff is crafted to oblivian.


    Might I suggest making crafting these items a bit more difficult. More resources. Skills dont matter everyone has everything already. Add some resources to it. MORE.

    Maybe make it a gold sink. 100k for elixir of conversion from NPC.

    Please think about this.

    I know the drill.... I dont have time too hunt for blah blah blah.

    Im with you... Lets just make an alternative thats is sensible.
     
  8. olduofan

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    how many of the Abyssal Clothes do you get just 1 ?
     
  9. Nastia Cross

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    RavenWinterHawk: I don't know about crafted into oblivion. The ingredients required to make the other high end imbuing ingredients are either also high end (white pearl and crystalline blackrock) or a tad expensive to obtain in bulk (the special ingredients for the potions and the dark sapphire). But this will allow those crafters who do not have the time to be able to keep up with everyone else and imbue max intensity items.

    Thumbs up to the devs for implementing this one, I hope that there's more to come (*ahem* mineable crystalline blackrock please or a way to turn my small pieces of blackrock into the crystalline type).
     
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    Market saturation is good, it keeps prices down. There's no point in items especially resources costing millions.

    Now if they'd only can factions....
     
  11. There is a difference between low prices and saturation.

    Saturation is over abundance which will lead to over over abundance in imbuing (in this case).


    None of the ingredients are rare. They do take time. There is a difference between rarity and time.

    All I am saying is good bye imbuing.

    Power gamers will make the items and the profits.

    Balance is a delicate thing. It starts with making things to easy.
     
  12. Ender

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    Man come on, we're not even close to saturation.
     
  13. guum

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    Agreed. The imbuing drops from Cavern of the Discarded are nearly impossible to find, and when you *do* find them, they go for 250k-1mil each. That's 2.5mil to 10mil just for one property on one item that will wear out. That's really freaking expensive.
     
  14. Masuri

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    And making things too hard or too time-consuming ALSO enables the powergamers to make the items and the profits. At least this way casuals can attempt to compete.
     
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    I am of an opposite opinion.

    I think it is a great new addition..

    I mean, I do not understand why, when something is limited to only a handfull of players it is seen as good; but when most players can enjoy it, then it is bad ?

    I am sorry, but I think the opposite way.

    When most players if not all of them can enjoy something rather than only a few, THIS I think is a good thing.

    Certainly, I cannot see it a good think when a few players can have the upper hand over a vaster majority of other players.
     
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    hehe saturation? perhaps on atlantic, but on my shard i havent so far seen a single piece of abyssal cloth for sale at all :) i have gotten 2 pieces myself from roughly 20 hours hunting where it drop, and you speak about saturation? cmon :) i mean if abyssal cloth was something unique and not a resource for imbuing that drop rate was acceptable, but seeming it is a resource and not just a pretty color, then its unreasonable it is so hard to get ^^

    at least in my opinion :)

    PS: Psst. Devs.. Seeds of renewal need another spawn location or another alternative to aquire as well.. danke schön :)
     
  17. Infiniti

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    Thank you for the information Tina. I think this is a great addition to the game for crafters. :thumbup:
     
  18. Cryltaur

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    Amen Brother Ben!
     
  19. Pinco

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    there is only 1 more:

    elven fletching (bowcraft): 1 faery dust, 20 feathers
     
  20. maroite

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    You can get crystalline blackrock off the rats in the cavern of discarded. I assume it is meant more to convert one into another, rather than create one from scratch.

    Also, did someone ever find a use for void orbs?
     
  21. Maggie

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    void orbs are for max intense leeches
     
  22. Petra Fyde

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    Very nice :)

    Except for what my hubby wants on his kit I need crystalline blackrock and Crystal shards. Stuck with the ratties I guess :p
     
  23. We will be.
    Doesnt matter to me. We are just going down the same path.
    If I sell abysmmal for 750k before or 500k after or 250k there after...
    Doesnt matter.

    Just saw
    Strength 8
    25% potion
    15% DCI
    15% HCI
    5% SSI
    and I think damage in Luna. Maybe no damage.
    55 Million.

    Same thing with Mana 2 instead of strenght 8 with some SD also there.


    Saturation is the coming of this type of jewelry. Not the amount of cloth or ingredients.

    Saturation is coming.

    Does jewelry decay, damage or wear down? Is imbued jewelry uninsurable?

    I dont know.
     
  24. Petra Fyde

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    yes, imbued jewelry takes damage, it starts at 255/255 as soon as you imbue anything on it.
     
  25. UOKaiser

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    Tell you the truth I don't know why so many ingrediants spawn in only the cavern instead of other places.
     
  26. sirion

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    I love spoilers! Thank you!

    BTW, how to make glass swords? I dont see it on the smithy/tinker/mallet tool menu.
     
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  28. Holy crap I have been WAY undercharging then....I mean way way...I only charge about 3K per ingredient. I never see a reason to be pure evil and charge for something anyone can get...
     
  29. Crysta

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    I've been charging 10-25k for 10 of any ingredient based on rarity and desireability. Anyone charging more is either a bloody idiot or a shifty price gouger.
     
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    Play now while you can. The world is ending. I agree with *whispers* popps.
     
  31. The Fallout

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    As long as they don't make every ingredient craftable I don't think it'll be a problem.
     
  32. Harlequin

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    I think more ways of getting the ingredients is a great idea! And from the looks of it, they've implemented it very well.

    Prior to SA's release, the devs have already mentioned that they were looking at making ingredient available via other methods.



    With this change, non-combat crafters can actually get the resources required to make the ingredients. And at the same time, it does not render hunting mobs for these ingredients useless.

    Power cystals are the only ones that needs a combat character. But it's good to see an under-used item getting a new use.
     
  33. Harlequin

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    I take this viewpoint too. Can I just add this - I told you so :D

    http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1367530&postcount=105
     
  34. Crysta

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    It isn't crafting them so much as converting them, anyway.
     
  35. Abyssal cloth goes for so much because tailors are using it.

    The rest are like 10k to 50k. Thats not to expensive. Gems about 5k to 10k but for the upper 2.

    I know everyone doesnt want to spend days finding stuff.


    Crafting ingredients is a good idea. It just needs to be well planned.

    As for what I do selling..... the price of abyssal will come down and the cost of crystalline blackrock will go up.

    They will off-set each other.

    Its the final final products that are created with the ingredients that will saturate the market.

    MARK MY WORDS the tsunami is coming. JK.
     
  36. Its not showing on the pieces imbued on atlantic I looked at.
    Maybe my eyes. But I will look again.

    Who repairs jewelry or what deed?
     
  37. Maggie

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    Tinkers repair jewlery and I m on atlantic and my jewels (ring/bracelet) are taking damage.
     
  38. Ah good to know.
     
  39. UOKaiser

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    If thats not the price there going for and they are going for more then you are a supplier. Which we love. Thank you for your service.
     
  40. shulginist

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    Or prefer to sell some items for what they are going for.
     
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    Wow, I wish you were on Sonoma, because I would buy you out. I cant comprehend how in the world you could justify to yourself only charging 1k-2.5k per ingredient. Some are easy to get, sure... but you're telling me you would sell me 100 Crystaline Blackrock for a max of 250k? Man, if you were on sonoma I would spend 25mil buying ingredients from you in a heartbeat... maybe as much as 50mil.
     
  42. Coragin

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    You cannot imbue swing speed increase on jewelry, if so my dexxers would be swinging a LOT faster. And Im 120 imbuing.
     
  43. HeathBar

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    Turquoise rings can be crafted with 5SSI then imbued.
     
  44. thats exactly what it was.
    Turq.
     
  45. Coragin

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    Oh boy!!

    I know what rings Im making now!
     
  46. Crysta

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    I just sell what I have as I get it at what I think its worth. None of the cavern stuff is really hard to get, just time consuming... can't very well charge people for time when I had enough to go have fun down there anyway.
     
  47. Lost-Soul

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    No matter how many of the imbuing ingredients become available, relic fragments will decline eventually. I have not found a good way to farm or get these any faster than the other ingredients themselves. Most max intensity imbues require 5 of these and use more if they fail. So unless they make these easier to get the market will stay at the higher end.
     
  48. ACB1961

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    I don't know what you guys are talking about I've gotten a bunch of Abyssal cloth. I have a bunch of everything else too, & I've sold about 500 million worth of stuff in 7 days. ALL of the stuff drops, its just a matter of putting in the time.
     
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    I can't seem to come up with a magic way of getting them either. Everything else is just a matter of time.
     
  50. Ender

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    I don't have the ability to play all damn day.
     
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