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Stacking Invisibility Potions

Discussion in 'UHall' started by startle, Mar 3, 2014.

  1. startle

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    Could someone explain to me why potions like Invis pots don't stack if made by different alchemists? I mean, talk about a pain in the arse... If the strength were different, then I could see it. But all Invis pots are equally able to invis anyone.... So having them as somehow "different" from each other, is just an oversight, right?

    And oh, btw... Should any dev happen upon this thread, a word from you would go a long way with all of us here that like to store pots....

    Of all kinds... :cool:
     
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    I wonder if the Skill of the Alchemist that made it determines the length of the effect? That would require at least 10 levels of potions, I might surmise. But who knows.
     
  3. Yadd of Legends

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    I have the same problem with all kinds of potions - all made by the same alchemist. I can't see any pattern to it but agree it's frustrating have three or four stacks of each kind of potion that won't stack with each other.
     
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    Some potions may not be "familiar" to the character, and they won't stack with potions that are. Try taste ID on potions so they're identified, and they should then stack.

    That doesn't explain an alchemist's potions, though...
     
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    I could understand the "non-stacking" concept if we were talking about different potencies of Strength or Heal or Explosion, etc. But Invisibility, Night Sight, etc. all work equally - like bandages - so no reason to not have them stack.
     
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    I have lots of the potions from the barrel sponges from the King's Collection and they will not stack with the ones made by my alchemist. But stranger yet, i have at least 5 kinds of the rare fish steaks that won't stack with ones I already have. That's only 2 types of many of the "Stackables Mystery".
     
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    I can hear the people now.... WE WANT STACKS - WE WANT STACKS - WE WANT STACKS... :danceb: :cheerleader: :violin: :please:


    Or something like that.............
    :cool:
     
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    Looted glass swords and crafted glass swords don't mix after crushed. Made some crab pies at last and don't stack.

    While we question the etheral gods. How does a 1 stone plant produce 16 stones of goods and still grind down to 1 stone of pigment?
     
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    With regards to invisibility potions...are they the same color? There was a bug way back when that made invisibility potions the same color as greater confusion potions for a publish or two. Then they realized the mistake and switched it to their own hew, but the other hew potions that had been made persisted and remained. (I assume because of some policy dealing with rares or something).

    As for the ngihtsight potions mentioned later...they might not stack as they might have been either bought from the npc and taste id or they could have been made.

    The real key here is many of these have different item id numbers behind the scene.
    That means even when they have the same color and same graphic and same name, they have this hidden number that somehow identifies the source or something else and keeps them separated.
    One of the biggest places I found this was dealing with commodity vendors and this makes it so we have to have more than one item on the list.
    On certain items (like the gorgon lens which has no less then 4 different item id numbers somewhere behind the scene, depending on what type of scale is used to create it) this bugs out the entire commodity vendor.
     
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    the ones from the Kings Collection i was having a problem getting them to stack as well.
    but then i started to collect them with the same guy all the time then drop them in my pots chest and they seem to stack fine now.
    im guessing since its the same guy all the time?
    i know all my pvp supply bags in my houses all have double stacks of all pots.
    ive only ever seen 2 of every type of the same pots, ones ive made and ones ive gotten of other people.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Well.............. there is a way to get them to stack even if made by a dozzen different alchemists.
    Taste ID.
    Its in the order in which you taste them.
    I have found if a potion comes up with a generic name to drop it in a keg will clear up that tiny prob too.
     
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    A generic name?
     
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    I am not sure on invis potions or if this has changed but there is a difference in strength level of the Night sight potions. Some of me charters have been using them the entire game play and I've noticed that a GM night sight potion lasts considerably longer than one bought from an NPC. This is why i always assumed potions of the same likeness wouldn't stack; they are different but there is no way to tell by looking at it.

    I seems that certain props have to match perfectly or an item won't stack. I think that is just a general rule of UO.
     
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    Well then, if there IS a difference between - oh, say Greater Refresh pots (which also on a regular basis, don't stack from different sources) - then we should have some way to tell them apart. Like Refresh, Greater Refresh, Extra Greater Refresh, Super Refresh, etc....
     
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    Again, a lot of my potions of the same kind don't stack, and they are all made by the same alchemist. I only have one alchemist, and he's been GM for years. I shouldn't need to add taste ID for him to recognize his own potions. Maybe the problem is that the same kind of potions don't stack when they come from different kegs, even though made by the same alchemist?
     
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    Yadd we have had so many changes over the years with all the publishes the stacking thing with some items was fubared but there is a way around but it does need you to use taste id.. you dont need to have it just use the skill at 0.
    You will fail... alot. Make a macro for it and sally forth.
    It might take some time but in the end it saves you on adding a skill you dont want or selling the odd stuff and remaking it all.

    Sparkle somehow a few kegs/pots revert to simple color tag: ie: yellow potion
    I know its my alchemists so drop it on a keg and refill the bottle and poof its back to normal.
    Best off it now stacks with the rest.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, Lady Storm. For the record, ,my alchemist is an elf, zero taste ID skill. But the skill kicked in with just a couple tries, not many fails at all. I used it on each pile of potions, and the skill identified them, and then they stacked.
    This is why I love this forum, folks. Just about any little detail of the game you don't know, put it out there, and somebody will know the answer.
     
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    They ALL stacked after taste ID?
     
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    Yes, after I successfully used taste ID on each stack of the same kind, then all the same kinds stacked together
     
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    Yup.
    Your welcome.
     
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    Invisibility potions from the Kings Collection sponge and my GM Alchemist made potions will not stack even when taste ID'd.
     
  22. Lady Storm

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    I think they have a different code... not sure why but I could be wrong,,, havent gotten a kings pac up yet to try....