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Stealables: does real skill count?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Inquisitor [AK], Dec 22, 2008.

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  1. with the new stealables from monsters (Balms and lotions) does the real skill count? i got 100 stealing Real, 120 with items but i dont seem to get the 10-15% i should have
    usually evry 10th mob shud have an item but its more like every 30-40 mobs

    sombody knows more? is it just my feeling? can i keep goin with 100 real,120 with items? or should i train to 120?
    does it make a diffrence if i steal at a champspawn or in a random fel dungeon?
    thx in advance
     
  2. TheScoundrelRico

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    You may be able to find this information on the Treasure Hunters or Rares Collectors forum.

    Good luck...la
     
  3. GL_Seller

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    I actually asked this same question on the thief forums. SINCE ITS STEALING which would mean thieves. I got some good replies. Its seems to be based on your modified skill. As people with 70 are using items and getting the balms just fine.

    About what to steal not sure Id ask in the thief forums but unless your talking about how uber you are because you stole someones aids and apples your post gets locked.

    I just put stealing on a sampire and i kill balrons in fel seems to be good so far. Gotten quite a bit of the new balms and stuff. It says theres special rewards in fel though havent gotten any of those yet. Hope this helps.


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  4. TheScoundrelRico

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    LOL, a crate is a theif, not a thief...la
     
  5. Lord Kynd

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    umm but he did spell it thief not theif.
     
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    Actually, an argument I won in the past (as, rather than trying to dispute me, the other side degenerated into personal attacks), the only real thief is the Crate type. The ones that steal from others are robbers and variants thereof. There is a definite semantic difference (and for that matter, in real-life legal terms) between burglary (crate thieving) and violating the person of a living or dead person to steal (robbery, pickpocketing, mugging, banditry, etc.).

    You'd think that the "player-thieves" would want to identify with the more flashy titles that actually are relevant specifically to their profession, not the generic one that by their own choice, forces their grouping with common burglars and artifact looters.
     
  7. peanutbutter

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    to the OP. you are just unlucky i guess. i tried it out in shame and despise and came out with about 1 rare every 13 steals.

    keep trying...

    or better yet, follow another thief doing it and steal from them when they get the rares. i did that once... it was cool.
     
  8. peanutbutter

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    i'd like to agree with you but i can't.

    you're wrong.

    a crate thief or a rare thief is a TYPE of thief.

    he's not a "PvP Thief", but he is a thief.

    there are other people on the planet.


    and.... you ahve a habit, it seems, of hijacking people's posts. i understand that you don't like people who don't PvP steal. fine. don't respond.

    like the other thread that got hijacked (by you) and subsequently LOCKED.

    please stop.
     
  9. Arch Magus

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    Wow, I love how the new potions really brought alive teh Thieving templates!

    It seems thieves are more Tram oriented than ever now....
    100 Stealing on your Samurai pally killing Balrons?

    get real devs.....
     
  10. Petra Fyde

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    I think the question that needs asking is 'what are you stealing from?'. I have had quite good results from daemons and lich lords.

    I'm also having fun doing it.
     
  11. TheScoundrelRico

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    No, a crate is a theif...not a THIEF...la
     
  12. Mustarik

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    My dictionary doesn't contain the word theif. Care to elaborate?

    I thought Zigzag was adding/amending some forums. Currently, asking a thief qu...excuse me, theif question...is akin to playing the game Bureaucracy.
     
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    This is 100% ridiculous and the attitude on the thieves forum is one of stupidity and hostility. It's just a game. I simply cannot believe how intolerant people are that someone cannot ask about stealing on a forum that discusses stealing.

    To the OP, it's my experience that your modified skill is what counts. I don't think it's better in a champ spawn area vs Felucca dungeon, but like someone mentioned earlier, the fame of the monster helps. With that being said, the stealables are still kind of hard to get. Good luck. :)
     
  14. TheScoundrelRico

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    Not at all. The thief forum, for as long as I can recall posting there has been a place where thieves posted about stealing from other players, not stealing from crates, doom, or monsters...la
     
  15. TheScoundrelRico

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    link

    Hope that helps...la
     
  16. J0KING

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    100% Agree... Point is the skill is stealing... the way that some people view it you would think that there should be two seperate forms of stealing skills...
     
  17. TheScoundrelRico

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    Nobody has been turned away from the thief forum who has asked questions about the stealing skill, or it's training. Where people get upset is when we don't post any assistance to thier questions on crating. The problem is...we can't help them since we do not partake in the stealing of deco items or doom artis.

    When directed to other forums, it's because those forums might actually be able to answer their questions...la
     
  18. wow just cos i got a "trammy-thief" doesnt mean i dont participate in pvp
    i cud woop ur ass with all my other chars, cud u plz get the **** out of my thread now? i didnt even post in the thiefes forum and u talk alot of bs here
    theif, i never heard....
    just wow

    to evrybody else, thanks alot that helped much
     
  19. TheScoundrelRico

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    o.0

    Calm down there little buckeroo. Just discussing the topic, and following the thread as it has progressed...la
     
  20. AirmidCecht

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    Ya know I opened this thread wondering the exact same thing and I wonder if it would have gotten a legitimate reply if it didn't get held up and assaulted by a debate between thugs. I don't care what kind of thief someone claims to be, a thug is a thug is a thug.

    Good luck with your question Inquisitor.
     
  21. peanutbutter

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    unnecessary and childish.

    and to the one who said "I think the question that needs asking is 'what are you stealing from?'. I have had quite good results from daemons and lich lords."

    that's a good thought, though i'm not sure it matters. maybe it does, but i've gotten tons of new items from lizardmen and stone harpies - and at a 1 to 10 rate with 120 stealing.

    i think some people have just been unlucky. like with doing heartwood quests: there's a 1 in like 10,000 chance that you'll get a heartwood kit, but you could probably do the quest 10,000 times and NEVER get a kit.

    it's only a CHANCE and chance is a fickle *****.
     
  22. peanutbutter

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    well said, Airmid.

    some "theiyvsers" just can't help themselves when it comes to their prejudices and pride.

    i think the question has been examined by a few of us and maybe the OP has gotten the answer they need.

    in short, my opinion on the matter is that the OP has been unlucky. keep it up, you'll get your stuff... or you won't.

    to those who sought (and are still seeking) to hijack the thread to use it to stroke their ego's or make some point that belongs SOMEWHERE ELSE, i simply ask you to stop. when you do this - use other people's legit questions as a way to make fun of their typnig* or their beliefs about what is or isn't a thief or a theif, you discourage participation all together.

    some people need to be made fun of and some threads need to be hijacked/trolled.

    this was NOT one of them.
     
  23. i stole from deamons while another one was farming silver
    went very well got a balm/lotion in about evry 10th
    i wonder if those really sell for 500k-900k each....
     
  24. TheScoundrelRico

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    That will be determined if there is anyone willing to pay that much for those items...la
     
  25. _zigzag_

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    I'm going to say this ONE last time.

    UNTIL I get the new forums set up, ANYONE is welcome to post ANY thief-related questions in THE CURRENT THIEF'S forum. If your question gets answered there, fine. If not, ask in another forum. I cannot make it any clearer than that.

    I am sick and tired of the banter about this, and even more tired of the attacks that take place over a GAME...like spelling and grammar.

    I'm even more pissed off that some of you seem to think you are above other players - some elitist group that has more clout or pull than the next guy, or that you have some sort of little exclusive club. Not true.

    I will have these new forums done as soon as I can, and I apologize to all of you who have been verbally accosted trying to get some answers concerning stealing within UO
     
  26. peanutbutter

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    those prices will change alot. i put my stuff on a vendor at a high price at first, but have dropped the lotion (whatever protects against the harrower), arguably the best one, down to near 150k now (because of competition).

    the price will vary and be set on each shard depending on who is actively keeping stock.

    my prices will change depending on competition.

    just like my are woods and bows, i will stay about 10% lower on all items than anyone else i know of selling the same items.

    if they choose to follow my prices, they will match or beat - at which time, i will match or beat. then there is competition. if they don't, i win.
     
  27. TheScoundrelRico

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    You seem to be implying that this is something new. Since UO's begining, there have been players who disagreed with other players playstyles...heck for that matter, look at how the game changed with the inception of Trammel.

    I mean come on, it's not like PvP thieves invented the phrase "duel my main"...la
     
  28. Nexus

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    Sorry I'm with Rico on this one... By stealing from other things than players be it items spawned that require stealing skill to obtain or Stealing from monsters, your not following the Thief Code.

    "The Code"

    All thieves are expected to follow the following rules:

    1. Thou shalt not steal from or loot fellow thieves.
    2. Thou shalt not purposely reveal fellow thieves.
    3. Thou shalt not identify disguised thieves.
    4. Thou shalt not kill fellow thieves.
    5. Thou shalt not follow fellow thieves around telling people that they are thieves.
    6. Thou shalt offer aid and comfort to fellow thieves when possible.
    7. Thou shalt not ask stupid questions that are thoroughly covered in the FAQ.
    8. Thou shalt check the forum to see if thine question as already been answered.
    9. Thou shalt retain a sense of humor.
    10. Thou shalt not call thy self a thief if thou hast not stolen from thine fellow player.
    11. Thou shalt remember that thine profession is spelled thief and not theif.

    Furthermore any Faction thief that takes the trouble reveal, point out and/or kill thieves of other factions is literally in violation of Rules 1 through 5 so I don't consider them thieves either. The Brotherhood of Thieves should be held above such petty things as Factions!

    By those of us that firmly believe in following the Code that was put down years ago calling us an "elitist" club is an honor we're trying to raise the bar and standard that we feel is deemed to be the best standard for the class. After all I thought this Fan site was to promote community, The individual Class forums are doing just that. We strongly focus on the Thief aspect of the game as a Play style not just a Skill in the Thief Forums, instead of getting upset why not say "Wow mission accomplished".
     
  29. _zigzag_

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    You missed the point totally...

    This is a community...and if anyone is ousted because of some simple technicality...well...it ain't happening here at Stratics.

    That said, this thread is done. Like it or not, I will not have members of this community belittled because they seemingly aren't up to some imagined standard or 'code'.

    So...for those of you that think you are somehow 'better' than others...here's a reality check.
     
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