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Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Chardonnay, Jun 8, 2008.

  1. Chardonnay

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    How long till TNT/MYTH join the TO/TD/NSTY/GIL/JSV allaince (along with 15 smaller guilds)...that alliance makes a whole new meaning "make love not war" motto...
     
  2. Masumatek

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    Having too many people in your alliance/guild should be a bannable offense!

    *edit*
    ahh yay just wanted to make sure my sig is working

    But yah..I'll never understand PvPers who enjoy zergs, nor anyone who believes in "winning at all costs." That's not what the game is about. It's about a good fight. Why is it only fun for so many people if they win? And I think you can include many if not most of the people in your guild (KOC right?) as having the same mentality as those in 20 guild alliances...

    *second edit*
    Are they really allied or is uo.com just slow at updating?
     
  3. HooderSP

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    maybe i missed something here... when did TO/TD/NSTY et al join the GIL/JSV alliance?
     
  4. Dexdash

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    ill take that bet. terms? time frame? amount? broker?
     
  5. Krystal

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    want in on the bet :popcorn:
     
  6. HaHa

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    Looks like they are at it right now
     
  7. kelmo

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    you will lose that bet.
     
  8. kelmo

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    Don't let field truces influence you. Odd things happen. And war starts over odd things.
     
  9. UncleSham

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    they arent allied . we just aranged a truce. if they can live up to our "good" standards maybe . but for now we'll have to see if they can refrain from killing innocents, no cheating and such.
     
  10. Masumatek

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    Truce. Alliance. Same difference. A bunch of PvMers and crafters...well ok. But how do PvPers get enjoyment from big zerg guild/alliances?
     
  11. GoodGuy

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    sure ill do that, i'll put 100 million that in 6 months TNT alliance is still mostly the same.

    Any takers?
     
  12. kelmo

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    Yeah, it is a good team. I am allowed to say that. TnT/Myth has showed it can last. *nods*
     
  13. Memnoch

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    I never thought I'd see the day where I agree with one of Masu's posts, yet alone have the post I agree with by him be under 500 words.

    Well said
     
  14. :sad4: *quietly thumbs through his maps*
     
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  16. Shakaja

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    let me explain. jsv kept getting killed and were quite sad about it. so they were thinking why that could be. they all agreed that they need more meatshields. and another guild that kept getting killed was added to their alliance with hope that things would change. it didnt so they still recruiting and adding xD
     
  17. Hattori Hanzo

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    I will bet anyone 100 million UO gold that TNT/MYTH will not ally JSV or any named zerg with their basic players in it. I will go through any broker for this bet and will post it in gold or RL cash. Pick a time frame and bring your money.

    Oh hell, who would take that bet? I am one of 2 people with a controlling interest in the outcome of the bet.

    Anyway, I hope I made my point. The fact is, our alliance has gotten smaller, we have only two guilds (despite what the months old UO Guilds page says). Also several of our members have moved on to other games, others shards, other servers, other guilds, and real life interests. We tried the big Alliance thing and did not really like it much.

    So, now we are a small family of people who play quite a bit. We like it a lot TYVM.
     
  18. Shakaja

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    i think ill take anyones bet, as long as the timeframe is the next 200 years. sounds like full of win :gee:
     
  19. UncleSham

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    i was trying to ignore that , but its been gnawing at me so here ...

    yes we are a big alliance however i would say we are far from zerg . most of are members ARE crafters and pvm .

    "...that alliance makes a whole new meaning "make love not war" motto..."
    ( hey ! i resemble that remark )

    many of us are up and coming straight outa NEW greenhorns . we try to learn pvp and as a result many of us just get in the way . there are actually very few "true pvpers" on the field.

    those that do pvp on a regular basis certainly would enjoy a full fledged "war" rather than small skirmishes.
    so theres one reason for wanting more poeple .

    annother reason is no matter how many go to the front tnt and koc always seem to come together to fight us . true you fight each other but it seems we are the prefered targets whenever possable.

    poeple just love to hate us , and i for one cant see why . we hold alliance mates to the highest standards . we do not kill innocents , we do not cheat , and appart from a bit of good natured trash talkin and the whole ed thing . (which i must point out he WAS punnished for) we are NOT jerks . how many of you can say the same ?

    the only reason i can see for the hatred is that verum and the boys flat out own you , and you cant stand it.
     
  20. Shakaja

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    you dont seem to understand the term zerg then, because that right there pretty much defines it. zerg is a strategy where (instead going for a little group of units that are highly specialized and cost alot) you build a big army out of very cheap units and try to kill your enemy not by individual strength but by overrunning him with big numbers.

    lol @ no cheating part thoo.
     
  21. UncleSham

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    ok perhapse i didnt phrase that right . altho we do have large numberrs of poeple in the guild we dont actually field that many pvpers . if you look on a typical night we might have 3 to 6 poeple out there trying to pvp . how is that "zerg" ?
    its true now and then i will wander out onto the field. (i must try to get better) , usually i wind up losing my stuff (enjoy the cheap lrc suits) but i AM getting better.

    perhapse one day i will be good enough to consider myself a pvper . for now tho i stick to pvm and try to defend myself when raided . which to me is a whole lot more fun the house / gz fighting anyway.

    the last couple days with the addition of asty and crew. we have been able to field more fighters . and from what i hear they had quite a bit of fun.

    so i guess by your definition occasionally we are zerg. but for the most part, not really. we have to get poeple on the field if were gonna learn ... pardon me for trying.
     
  22. CroakerTnT

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    Aye, I'll Take that bet. I'll bet 1 Mil that it is more than 6 months before TnT/Myth join the luna alliance.

    :stir:
     
  23. Shakaja

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    you are not in said alliance then. i constantly been fighting around 20 of them guys every night.
     
  24. HaHa

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    You cant be serious
     
  25. Krystal

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    omg, now they starting to make up lies lmao
     
  26. UncleSham

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    look i have no need to lie . ive been on this side and ive seen and heard much. we simply dont have 20 poeple on most of the time much less have em all be pvpers.

    and yes . yes you do . ive seen you stop fighting and spin around on us like a bunch o pixies on someone who just went negative noto .

    you really think i need to lie to boost my ego or something ? i frankly dont care .

    when i first started back on this shard i watched you all trying to deside who i should join . a few names stood out . verum , calibretto , rojo fuego , king edward ... these guys could be alone . chased by 4 guys . they'd run a bit drop someone . run some more . drop annother one ... and then when your backup crowd showed up, id watch them ditch you leaving you stand there in frustration.
    i said to myself . i gotta get to know these poeple.

    i also took note of shakaja . nearly indestructable . is it you or your dragon ? who cares . props on chosing a good weapon (and knowing what to do with it)
    monolith . annother good fighter, altho i cant understand how he moves so fast . must have one hell of a ping.
    nasty cares . seen him take down a few at a time as well. damn good player .
    krystal . yes i count you as one of the best . but your newbie killin tactics i couldnt live with . you're driving poeple away . justify it however you like .
    astinex . awesome fighter. fearless and proud.
    puffy ... no idea how he lives thru most of that stuff, but he does.
    i just couldnt see hanging with the guilds you run with . so much negativity and hate.

    it was the kindnes of none other than king edward that made the desision for me . true the man has no tact . but he will give you the shirt of his back if you ask nicely.
    once i started hanging with him i saw first hand the honor and generosity that is HSSF2 . but many of you will never know . they have no tolerance for hate and no mercy for the enemy.

    for now i can only aspire to be as good as y'all at pvp . one day i will be, mark my words . this is why i came to siege to learn from the best. im watching and learning . beware . if it takes a million deaths so be it. i will not give up . AND i will do it honorably.
     
  27. Shakaja

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    i dont know if you are part of that alliance, but if you are, you are definitely wrong on your numbers :)
     
  28. UncleSham

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    that is correct . well not to/td . they arent officially in the alliance . as i said before . a truce . and even then its been what ? 2 days ? maybe the last 2 days we have had a few more poeple on with asty's crew in the mix . gil is allied but largely seperate . they are almost exclusively pvm and crafters . granted cali whips enough ash for all of gil.

    we may have 30 or 40 poeple scattered about uo running bods . farming leather etc . but largly who we have available for pvp is rarely over half a dozen poeple .
    the last 2 days tho they have had more if you count asty's crew. i personally havent been with them . so i cant say for sure . but theres never more than 10 on vent. even with astys crew (yes we gave em vent privilages)

    im sure they are enjoying the larger numbers . perhapse it just seems like 20 with the death they hand out.
    koc really screwed up when they ticked off asty .they say hes quite good. and his followers are prety good too.

    i hear asty and cali have been running mayhem on the field those two together are quite impressive.

    but i will admit you may be correct the last couple days . maybe theres more that arent in vent . i cant say for certain as i havent been out there. but up till a couple days ago its been 4 .. 5 .. maybe 6 poeple at most pvping.

    ive been runnin spawns sense y'all been to buisy to come find me. hehe . i wan the roll on 2 of the 20s myself the last couple days. :thumbup1:

    i figure they can do well enough without me . besides they dont really want me and my new totaly unfair dragon out there too.
    (id never hear the end)
     
  29. Memnoch

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    You say PvP'er I say people with dismount ability and a dragon that can one hit kill you

    You obviously never played SC where the initial term "Zerg" comes from (Short definition follow)
    Zerglings were cheap, weak, and when purchased came in 2's.. You could get a LOT of them and they'd just surround anything and beat it to death, sure they all did like 2 damage, but it adds up.. If you get enough newbs shooting arrows, it adds up being on such a small shard.. As for "True PvP'ers" saying you have a few is a bit of an exaggeration, but who am I to judge I'm not even grand at PvP.

    You lost me here, if you wanted a full out war you wouldn't recruit sooooo many people, more people = less people to fight on a low population server. So obviously your completely misunderstanding what your guild wants, they want no war, just love.

    Not knocking you, but more often then not guilds only realize when they're being attacked, you hear it in vent, you concentrate on it when your attacked, but when two non-guildies are fighting amidst a large battle, you probably dont notice it every time.

    I call bull, Im sure someone in your guild unknowingly to you does SOMETHING not 100% kosher, even if its as weak as teleporting dragons/flying dragons into a house, thats considered cheating...

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    Maybe one day you'll learn why Siege dislikes alliances.
     
  30. Dexdash

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  31. Shakaja

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    we know they been in your vent, and it was more than 10 in your pvp channel.

    must be another asty than i know. but then again its a matter of standards i guess.

    hrmm cali does a quite good job as a fieldmage in a group, definitely the best in the entire group. asty however? does he do anything but looting kills and try to get a last shot off in a gank? all i ever see him do is jump on me out of stealth when i fight 5+ other people. then he usually flags, runs up to me and instantly runs away or smokebombs. wouldnt necesairily call that good.

    already said, we know there were more than 10 in the pvp channel various times.

    not sure why not. they been running with over 5 tamers and dont do very well. im sure they would appreciate another dragon :)