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Tameable Bane Dragons

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lord GOD(GOD), Jun 13, 2010.

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    Tameables found at the area surrounding the Slasher Of Veils. (So were the Hell Hounds but idk what they have normally to know if they were anything special - & couldn't be bothered to find out.)

    They need subduing before Taming, though theres no indication when that happens, I Tamed it redlined with about 30 hp left.

    They lose their poison immunity when Tamed. Also lose (as far as I can tell) their ability to breath + poison while mounted but they can still breath + poison while attacking.

    They can't be armoured.

    Notice, they have no prefered food, this probably means you need to take part in the event, pushing one side back completely to get the Blackrock Stew, which is difficult to get, and if you need two of them (one before and one after a week) it could take a lot of effort.

    Edit: Forgot to mention, they take 3 follower slots.
     
  2. RawHeadRex

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    those do 60+ fire breath damage ? great ...
     
  3. Xalan Dementia

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    so they release dread mares basically, but change the art to a swampy. and make it poison user instead of fire.
     
  4. Mapper

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    Is this on TC or a production shard?
     
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    I wonder, Would feeding it the pet treats count as 'food' and let you bond it that way?
     
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    I think any food that a tamable accept can bond it for you.

    The stats are identical to dreadmares very interesting indeed.
    Since I am not on TC could anyone explain a bit more on its poison and breathe attack?

    Is it fire breathe attack + the ability to inflect poison on its melee attack? Or is it a poison breathe attack like the hydras? or it casts poison on top of its breathe attacks?

    Anyhow it will give the none dreadmare players another chance to load them up, it will be very very interesting if those dreadmares-in-disguise are here to stay permanently.

    Thank you.
     
  7. The breath attack itself poisons.
     
  8. JoO

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    wow, the breath does damage AND poisons? Seems a bit OP. I hope its a low level poison at least.
     
  9. G.v.P

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    Not sure if anyone has asked or tried yet, but difficulty? Being they are in the shape they are, are they a 29.1, or were they much harder to tame and stubborn to commands from those without skills? :)
     
  10. maroite

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    Guessing you need taming to control/use these, just like the dread warhorses. This is not an "anyone" tame from the stats. And if it is, the devs seriously F'd up.

    And by needing taming/lore I mean you Probably need 90+ of each just like the dread warhorses.
     
  11. I just heard a BANG......






    .......... must be the prices of dread mares dropping?

    :bdh:
     
  12. AzSel

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    New art on the bane dragons please. Swamp dragon art looks bad in 2d.
     
  13. Myna

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    reptalon art would be cool
     
  14. Lord Gareth

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    The mount is cool and I see someone over there found a way to get that pet dye in game. Sneaky...sneaky...
    :stir:
    (Always)

    If I recall correctly a wonderful lady (Sakkara) went over batting her eyelashes at someone. By doing this she got a turkey to use for the Thanksgiving event. Someone should go over there again and bat their beautiful eyelashes for a Bane Dragon graphic upgrade *Grins*
     
  15. G.v.P

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    Based on 600 hp they would do around 36 damage breath to 70% poison resist if I'm reading the description right, but with the breath nerf I'm not sure. Their resistances seem a lot better than a Dread Warhorse though, hm.
     
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    I saw this one coming from a mile away, when someone posted the spoilers that they found in the cliloc files. And the resists look to be about the same as a dread warhorse. I'm wondering if they can have barding put on them.
     
  17. G.v.P

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    0 taming -- no chance
    25 taming -- no chance
    50 taming -- no chance
    75 taming -- no chance
    90 taming -- no chance
    100 taming -- no chance
    110 taming -- succeed
    105.1 taming -- no chance
    109 taming -- succeed
    108 taming -- succeed
    107 taming -- no chance
    107.1 taming -- succeed

    107.1 to tame

    tamed with 120/100, failed first command to all follow lol and second these are tough buggers to tame

    "The creature looks at you strangely and shakes it head no"
    (result of dropping rib on it)

    doesn't like raw ribs, rofl well i don't know how to get its loyalty up

    hell hounds have red names, are red hued, don't seem different from normal ones to me

    572/109/135
    527 str 109/135
    103.8
    70/41/45/50/34

    Interesting that poison is listed as -- because they can use poisoning in melee when wild, I can't control this guy though worth crap.

    Changed to 120/120, now commands seem to work well lol.

    LOL these are hard. Even at 120/120 two fails dropped it to Very Happy from stable standing of Extremely.
     
  18. G.v.P

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    Lord GOD tested barding said he couldn't
     
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    You are aware that dreads have a poison attack as well?

    That's probably a good thing. I'd hate to see the resists that these would have if you could put verite barding on them... :)
     
  20. G.v.P

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    @Lord GOD what was tamer's loyalty to Bane? I wonder if you need to be Loyal to bane to feed it? Because if you need Blackrock Stew, as you suggest they might, omg, what a worthless thing :p and even if its Blackrock or Blackrock Crystalline, eww, lol.

    edit: does not eat crystalline blacrock "shakes its head no." then I tried to take it to rehab, and it said, "no, no no." :/
     
  21. G.v.P

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    Like beefier deathwatch beetles hehe :p
     
  22. Llewen

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    Actually swamp dragons look pretty sweet in the enhanced client. That's one of the models that looks a lot better than their 2D counterparts. :)
     
  23. Yen Sid

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    Except they have 4 legs instead of 6 :sad4:. Do you have to be loyal to the Bane side in order to tame these?

    I can't wait for this to hit Origin :D.
     
  24. G.v.P

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    nope
     
  25. Thunderz

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    I have a blackrock stew if you want it to test what happens?

    Do you have any loyalty? I have about 1.7k atm.

    Im at the bane camp on Boron.

    Thunderz
     
  26. G.v.P

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    Ah crap I just logged out. I was the noob on G.v.P Disco something I'll log back in haha.

    Tamed a second,
    603/103/131
    538 103 131
    102.4
    63/40/38/57/21
     
  27. R Traveler

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    do they have pooff trick?
     
  28. BeefSupreme

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    Was just going to post this. Someone try it please?
     
  29. Like -7000 or worse.
     
  30. Not from saying "Trick" they don't.
     
  31. G.v.P

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    Okay Thunderz and another dude and I tested out stew, two stew got a dragon bonded. Now I'm wondering though if loyalty has any effect on control at all... Thunderz was, and correct me if I'm wrong, like 1700 loyalty i think
     
  32. Which camps chest did you get the stew from?
     
  33. G.v.P

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    Other dude said stew is a quest from Bane side, 20 crystalline turn in for each stew @ 2,000 loyalty (he had 2,500 he said).

    Thunderz got one stew off of an Ophidian corpse, but we aren't sure if it looted it from a player either.
     
  34. Thunderz

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    Whats that poof thing?

    Have bonded one with 2 bowls of stew and got a message "the bane dragon has now returned to maximum power".

    Cant work out what there for apart from just a deco event mount as they need 107 taming to controll (got really unhappy with 100 and at 1700 loyalty). They take up 3 slots, from what we tested having loyalty at 1500 and 2500 it doesnt make any difference with reguards to controlability/strength or anything. You only need taming and lore to controll so they dont seem to be linked to the event or loyalty in any way as of yet with reguards to controlling them.
    Not sure what one would be like full trained (Need a train gate in new haven to test it).

    Thunderz
     
  35. popps

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    Do I therefore understand it right that, the tameable Bane Dragons are only "half as good" as compared to Greater Dragons ?

    Greater Dragons, infact, take up 5 follower slots which is almost twice as 3............

    Or, instead, Bane Dragons with their 3 follower slots are "more bang for the buck", so to speak, as compared to a Greater Dragon ?

    Bottom line is, will Bane Dragons make Greater Dragons become obsolete ??
     
  36. G.v.P

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    Nah. Nothing is going to top a Greater Dragon for a long, long time. 85 phys 90 fire and up to 999 hp is pretty unbeatable.
     
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    I see, so it is just going to "fill in" the Dread Warhorse users ?

    Or, I should better say, a new tameable in support of those who missed the Dread Warhorse spawn back then ?

    By the way, Dread Warhorses are also 3 follower slots ?

    And if so, how do the Bane Dragons compare to the Dread Warhorses ?

    Too bad for Gargoyle tamers who cannot ride, though......
     
  38. I think he just meant the trick dread warhorses do.
     
  39. Shelleybean

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    Maybe blackrock stew will end up being made by cooks or something. There's got to be a way to feed them once the event ends.
     
  40. I thought Thunderz got his from a chest, which would mean its still viable to fight for either side, otherwise it isn't.
     
  41. Tina Small

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    This is what I have as MAXIMUM post-tame stats, resists and skills for dread warhorses:

    650 hit points / 555 strength / 125 dex / 160 intelligence

    75% physical / 40% fire / 40% cold / 60% poison / 50% energy

    100.0 wrestling
    100.0 tactics
    100.0 resisting spells
    100.0 anatomy
    100.0 magery
    100.0 evaluate intelligence
    100.0 meditation

    From the posts made by Lord GOD and G.v.P., it looks like the bane dragons will have stat and skill maximums similar to those for dread warhorses. Resists, though, look like they may be a bit different, i.e., potentially higher fire resist and lower energy resist than found on dread warhorses. Perhaps the bane dragon max resists will work out as 75% / 50% / 40% / 60% / 40%? (Same as dread warhorse except for switching places on the fire and energy maximums.)
     
  42. Thunderz

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    No sorry i got it as loot of an orphidian, i got a relic from the chest.

    Someone got a new arti from the chest, pair of bone arms, cant fully remember what was on them or there name but it was something like:

    casting focus 2%
    mr 2%
    lmc 5%
    lrc 18%
    5
    9
    12
    8
    18

    Thunderz
     
  43. I had a Dread Warhorse with 162 Int not blessed at the time. Its on an inactive friends account atm though.

    Oh, something else I forgot to mention, one of the skills, either Tactics or Resist, was over 100 before Taming on the Bane Dragon.
     
  44. chuckoatl

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    If they are trying to balance the game (which they are) these were needed. Not everyone got or has a dread, they had to impliment something to give some people a chance to have one.
     
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    Hahahaha! the dread gherkin... Hmm, it has the stats, but sadly it lacks the looks lol.

    I don't see dreads falling in price to a huge extent, given that they look so much better than the bane dragon. I do pity the PvP community though, because looks aren't so important over in Fel.

    Wenchy
     
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    The developers do not have to do anything. There are perks for those who leave the accounts constantly open and also perks for those who do events and those who choose not to, I have mini cities on top of my keeps all of them from the magencia rubble, i may sell 1 or 2 pieces but if you missed the event and were upset that you didn't get any you demand the developers put in a way to get it?

    You are the player type that pushed AOS, I demand this, I demand that it is not fair. WAA WAAA that guys sword is better than mine we need cookie cutter templates so everything is fair. You want everyone to have the same things go play wow or war hammer, don't bring that crap to this sandbox
     
  47. Yen Sid

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    Probably tactics, someone posted a dread with 108 tactics at some point (I'm too lazy to find the post atm).
     
  48. Lord Chaos

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    Or you could take your selfish hoarding attitude and find another game yourself. This swings both ways, you're not more worth as a subscriber just because you happened to lag up the server at a specific event.
     
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    I disagree.

    To my opinion, an unbalanced game is a game that for some players is less playable (and thus, less enjoyable.....) than for other players.

    This, eventually, alienates players away from the game thus hurting the game's revenues and, consequentially, the ability for all players to play the game (if the servers close down for lack of sufficient revenues no player will be able to play the game any longer.....).

    So, balancing the game out, always, at any time, is as I see it paramount to maintaining a lively and competitive game. This, particularly when the game has PvP among its features.