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Taming gain change

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Yadd of Legends, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. Yadd of Legends

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    Why aren't taming gains determined by fighting with your pet instead of taming stuff that has no use?
    You have to control the pet to fight with it, so basing gains on that is legitimate
    It would be the same way a swordsman naturally gains - by fighting progressively harder enemies
    I was thinking of creating a character on a shard where I have no other characters and was thinking of a tamer. But what can a tamer with 50 skill fight that matters? So the only thing to do is to raise taming. And the only way to do that is to tame thousands of animals you have use for, until you finally pass GM and can tame a pet that's finally useful. Seems a waste.
    So again, why not base taming gains on controlling the pet you have instead of taming stuff that's a waste of time?
    Has this idea ever been discussed?
     
  2. Merus

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    I always thought that it would be nice to be able to based on the control chance when giving the "kill" command... unfortunately that lends itself to extremely easy abuse in order to macro up skill...
     
  3. Yadd of Legends

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    I'm thinking the command could be linked to the fame of the target, and it would take more than the command - maybe actually killing the target. Kill harder things, gain?
     
  4. Slayvite

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    You can "sort of".
    The new mastery is a form of control and you can gain to 120 by using it and any animal........I recently found out :D
    17 years and I finally have a 120 Tamer.
     
  5. BeaIank

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    Gaining through the mastery is nice and fairly fast, but that sadly only works from 90 and up.
    And by Odin's beard, it is a chore to get to 90 through the traditional way.
     
  6. Slayvite

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    Surely this day and age if anyone was going to make a Tamer they would use a Mythic token to start with? there's your 3 taming skills at 90 to start with. ;)
     
  7. Laura_Gold

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    Off Topic: I've always wanted to gain fame and karma by taming. Isn't turning a creature from the dark side more important than killing it?
     
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    Or perhaps turning then TO the darkside. :devil:
     
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    Nope, turning a creature to the Dark side to kill for you is joy incarnate. :devil:
     
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    Good point. It is kind of a warm fuzzy feeling.
     
  11. Yadd of Legends

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    True, if I needed another tamer now that's what I would do. But I was particularly talking about ways to make 0 to 90 more sensible and profitable and actually enjoyable. But you're probably right, it's in Broadsword's interest to keep it like it is so people will have to keep buying those mythic tokens.
     
  12. Fwoosh

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    I mean you put 30 skills on jewelry means you only need to get to 60 and if you start from 50 with a new character it's not nearly as bad as you'd think.
     
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    Indeed, combine this with Scrolls of Alacrity and/or Trancendense and you're really fast into the area where the mastery works.
     
  14. Slayvite

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    If only Ninjitsu or Bushido was as quick to get to 120..... :/
     
  15. BeaIank

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    You need 90 real skill to be able to use the mastery. That wouldn't do.
     
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    Right - still my point - how to make 0 to 90 more sensible and profitable
     
  17. BeaIank

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    Ideally, you should gain on taming and lore by issuing commands to your pets, based on your control chances.
    That would make gaining between 0 and 90 so much more doable.
     
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    Exactly - if they can come up with a way to prevent gaining by spamming commands - maybe linking the commands with killing monsters to gain - then you're gaining skill while doing something profitable
     
  19. Merus

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    Regardless of whether it was command or target based it would be easily exploited. IMO, that shouldn't matter... most skill gains have the same issue. Taming should have a way to gain skill by hunting with the pet you tamed between 0-90.
     
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    Totally agree - gains should be from hunting with your pet
     
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    Token, 5 skills x 90.... possibility if feeling lazy