For those who don't know, I am a returning player, and honestly so much has changed in five years Since I've been gone and honestly I'm a little over whelmed. While the basics still remain, I'm a little put off about some of the major skill changes and a little impressed considering some of the skills I thought I would never venture in, are now must haves. And Honestly it's add some much needed light for me. And, I'm of course a Role player, I think this game is perfect for it. And I made this persona for the, Guild I soon wish to create, Now I know its honestly never good to play two roles in any Role playing guild, But I believe I have the talent for it. So I made this character, within mind of being a Lurker of Shadows if you will, But have come to find some of the abilities I wish to tackle are a little off putting, Now, lets get down to what the Template was suppose to be 120 Stealth, 100 Hiding, 120 Fencing, 100 Anatomy, 100 Tactics, 100 poisoning, and 60 of another skill preferably something now too inclined to max out a mix between ninjistu, spellresist, maybe something like healing. So after long, consideration, (Thinking right before bed) I decided lets drop 120 fencing and 120 stealth, and lets try to make a simple 700 character, (Now worrying a about armor buffs, to get legendary status of things.) So this quickly flushed down the toilet, After trying to think and rolling around in bed, PS she wasn't happy about it.... plus I snore lol she hates it. I simply cant get the bam!!! I want out of this character. So I asking the Help of my much better informed players, Mind you this is a Role playing character and PVP will play a some what of large part in this character life span. (Considering the chaos and Order aspect), But as I said I want this character to be a shadow lurker. I want to hear everyone opinion. But one thing for sure I am literally and completely tired of Magery I have an elder mage and two more GM; I am all MAGED out. But If a good template arises for such a thing I will once again dabble in it. So I ask you forum reader HELP A NINJA OUT, Now I aint asking for a ultimate perfect killer,:gun: Cause I understand dieing is a experience of getting better at pvp. So some Simple side rules to template design Little to no magery, avoid if just possible No need for extreme travel I have a bajillion recall scrolls and all rune-books with 20 charges not an issue there Hiding is sort of a must, along with stealth, but even a 120 stealth isn't a guarantee of always walking unseen. so I don't care for too high of stealth And poisoning if you can, I'm still debating wither or not to even include this base on template wither or not I will even keep it. I figure I can find someone to poison my blade or what gave you. titles aren't jack to me, I'll let the victims decide what to call me.