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template help please

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by YuriGaDaisukiDa, Aug 4, 2009.

  1. hey guys, wondering if i could get some template help.

    My current template is realy nice for PVE, and its fun to just mess around with, but I cant compete in pvp that well. Im hoping I can get a template that allows for me to at least put up a fight, without sacrificing my main skills.

    80 taming
    80 lore
    80 vet
    60 magery
    That fills up 300, I like magery for gating, but it isnt required, and I dont usew high end pets for pvp, only for pve, then I use jewls.

    120 peace
    120 music
    I love these skills, And even though its not so great for pvp, I like to be able to peace other tamers pets. I probly wont sacrifice them.

    80 hiding
    80 stealth
    nice, but if i can make my template to better take care of myself, maybe I can do without.

    So as far as sacrificing goes:

    taming: I was considering dropping taming, and getting 100 vet/80 lore, and using forest ostards, or maybe dire wolf/dark wolf, that would free up skill points, without hurting me too bad, since I use frenzieds right now anyway. Also, you can use bakes with dark wolf right?

    Magery I mainly use for gates and heals, I could sac it for something that will keep me alive better, and just hoof it when I need to go places, lil hard to drag pets around though.

    stealth: good for staying alive, but for this class, it just makes me invisible and useless, rather than just useless, plus my pets following me around are a dead giveaway.

    Skills I am considering
    Necromancy/Spirit speak
    Spellweaving
    magery/eval
    ninjitsu
    detect hidden (stealther dont have mounts, so good bait for frenzieds)

    base template
    120 music
    120 peace
    80 vet (atleast) I need to rez pets, even if they are forest ostards!
    80 lore (atleast)

    So i have 300 points to spare possibly, what do you all think?
     
  2. Draxous

    Draxous Grand Poobah
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    Since your characters a tamer...

    You should have the following skills on Soul Stones:

    110 animal lore
    110 animal taming
    80 vet
    120 magery
    100 eval
    100 med
    100 resist
    100 hiding
    80 stealth
    120 ninja
    120 bushido
    120 swords
    120 tactics
    120 music
    120 discord


    This allows you to run 4 different tamer templates as well as an assassin template... the templates are as follows:

    Mage Tamer
    Chiv Bok Tamer
    Ninja Stealth Tamer
    Disco Tamer
    Bok Ninja Stealther

    See one of Duke SP's "I need help with PvP tamer" threads if you want more specifics on the template to run.

    All templates listed assume 720 skill points... you can tweak it for younger accts.
     
  3. how much detect hidden do you need to find stealthers?
     
  4. Taylor

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    Area spell? Reveal?
     
  5. nightstalker22

    nightstalker22 Lore Master
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    those only work if you are a murderer, or if you are blue and attempting to reveal a murderer.

    Area effect spells when cast by a blue will not harm other blues or reveal them.
     
  6. nightstalker22

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    GM it or you're wasting points.

    Even at GM it may take 3 or 4 tries if they are 120 stealth.

    If you dabble in it, you'd be better off going red and casting area spells such as earthquake or using conflag pots, spellweaving wildfires or essence of wind. You could also cast many poison fields and hope they run into it for you. :D
     
  7. im thinking this

    120 peace
    120 music
    100 lore
    80 taming
    80 vet
    70 stealth
    30 hiding
    100 magery

    I can use high end pets with jewls if i need, but usualy stick to ostards, and can invis stealth.

    ill have 120 magery if i can get my hands on a crystaline ring as well
     
  8. Draxous

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    If you have magery, you will want fast casting and fast cast recovery jewels. That will get expensive quick with +taming. That's a PvM template you described and it's semi-broken.

    Your only real way to heal is magery.

    If you go red (looking to hunt stealthers?) that template will not serve you well at all.

    From the look of it, you are new (700 skill points.) I would suggest this.

    110 animal lore
    110 animal taming
    85 vet
    110 magery
    110 ninjitsu
    100 hiding
    75 stealth

    Use swords of prosperity, staff of magi or pyros. Wear 0/2 and 1/2 jewels (2/4 casting) because ninjistu is also effected by fc and fcr. When in animal form, switch to greater heal wand (equip last) macro and chug. Go out of form and cast for heals if needed. Remember to cast protection (you have no resist and are casting at 0/4 with wand equipped, anyway.)

    This is great for PvM and PvP. Your best chance at being the most versitile.

    Once you complete this temp... you can move onto others if you like. Soul stones are the next best thing since sliced bread.