When I am working fame (for sacrifice virtue), I usually kill the succubus down in Fan Dancer Dojo. I get lord title before too long, sacrifice it on one of the demons up around the corner, and it's done. The past 2 nights I had been killing the air/flame/poison elementals in Shame, and also helped 2-man some of the named mages in there. We also killed an elder gazer (2-manned). So, I'd killed a good chunk of shame stuff. And it was strange that I had not achieved Lord, after all that. All of those mobs, including the air elementals & co, are harder to kill than the succubus. I took a break from Shame tonight and went and killed succubus for a while, so that I could get up enough fame to sacrifice. Got lord about as fast as usual, sacrified ... usual story. Might want to look into that, it does not seem right in the fame department down there in Shame.