1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Greetings Guest!!

    In order to combat SPAM on the forums, all users are required to have a minimum of 2 posts before they can submit links in any post or thread.

    Dismiss Notice

The Sky is NOT Falling!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Vaen Swiftar, Feb 17, 2010.

  1. Vaen Swiftar

    Vaen Swiftar Guest

    With the departure of Sakkarah and Draconi, many people have developed a sort of "grim" outlook. While these two people have contributed a wide variety of awesome things to the world that is UO, ranging from new plant options to crazy explosions, UO will endure.

    Don't forget, fellow players, that we still have Mesanna on the team, who most likely has been putting in extra blood, sweat, tears, curse words, time, and wall-punches in order to make the wheel go 'round. Mesanna has always been an asset to the UO team for the entire duration of her career here.

    No pressure, Mesanna, but the spotlight is now on you. I know that with these guild structures, you've cast aside some of your free time to get them done, and as a player and customer, to me, that shows a lot of dedication that you don't normally find in businesses today. So kudos to you. And I look forward to what you have in store for us.


    Ken
    - Player of Cal Hurst
    - Player of Vaen Swiftar

    P.S. I have on good authority that you like to be bitten, as it helps you focus. So... *bites*
     
  2. canary

    canary Guest

    OK, not that I want her to leave, but it would be HILARIOUS if she would post her good bye letter after reading this.
     
  3. Terrorknight

    Terrorknight Guest

    Just please don't leave Mesanna, that wouldn't be good. My return to UO would probably end as fast as I came back.
     
  4. Vaen Swiftar

    Vaen Swiftar Guest

    You are now held personally responsible if that happens!
     
  5. thats so uncool. if I were you, I would ran and hide before she comes for your head.
     
  6. Sakkarah_

    Sakkarah_ VIP
    VIP Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 13, 2008
    Messages:
    371
    Likes Received:
    0
    *confirms*
     
  7. Tazar

    Tazar Guest

    Not only do we have Mesanna still around, but I've seen Wilki post a time or two - Grimm's still there, Supreem's still there, and Vex/Phoenix was a nice recent addition (re-addition?). I'll miss Sak's touches on events and major systems, but I think we are still in good hands.
     
  8. Green Mouser

    Green Mouser Guest

    It may not be the end but it does bring changes. Each dev wills their vision into this game. The Vision we have currently lost is definitely a Loss. Will the new vision that is implemented be a good one? Time will tell but the vision that the missing Devs brought us will be missed.
     
  9. Mapper

    Mapper Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2005
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    110
    The producer envisions the game, The devs are told what to do. Atleast thats how I EXPECT it to work.
     
  10. Tazar

    Tazar Guest

    Maybe - but each one puts their own touches and feelings into it. I knew Sakkarah well before she became a Developer and I know I saw her hand in things almost immediately.
     
  11. *runs around frantically screaming* The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

    Ok, not really, but seriously, if Mesanna posts a goodbye anytime in the near future, I'm going to assume the worst for UO. It's hard not to think the worst as is with Draconi and the others gone and Sakkarah choosing to leave.

    The letter from Cal was informative, but nothing more than a "we're working on it" letter, which isnt so reassuring. How long till we hear other Devs are gone or leaving as well?

    :sad4:
     
  12. DevilsOwn

    DevilsOwn Stratics Legend
    Governor Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2003
    Messages:
    8,921
    Likes Received:
    377
    it's not falling, no, just a bit darker today

    this, too, shall pass away
     
  13. siyeng0

    siyeng0 Guest

    It's a shame to lose Sakkarah. But as long as we've got Mesanna, I'm optimistic.

    Yay Mesanna!
     
  14. Aurelius

    Aurelius Babbling Loonie
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2004
    Messages:
    2,756
    Likes Received:
    689
    UO seems to lose good people in batches, but usually survives... and often gets them back later on.

    Still, it's not good when we start to see so many things get better, and a pretty good expansion, immediately followed by some of the people responsible for the good stuff vanishing :(
     
  15. Lord Gareth

    Lord Gareth UO Content Editor | UO Chesapeake & Rares News
    Reporter Professional Wiki Moderator Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2006
    Messages:
    5,167
    Likes Received:
    401
    I envision things like.... you want me to what? In your dreams I'm doing this! heheh

    Yo face paint lady. Can you tell us what a work day is like? Do you work like 12hour days? OR like some people wish, make up your own schedule? OR is your schedule posted in the Employee bathroom like most companies? hehe


    Sakkarah

    Monday
    Anytime
    Tuesday
    Anytime
    Wednesday
    Anytime
    Thursday
    Anytime
    Friday
    Anytime
    Saturday
    Anytime
    Sunday
    Anytime
     
  16. Stupid Miner

    Stupid Miner Guest

    Yea, we've only lost 2/3rds of our most vocal, visibly energetic, and game-resurrecting devs! Woohoo! we've still got 33%!

    Yea, k, I'm gonna go wallow in self-pity for a while.

    Hell, we don't even have Chrissay anymore. Just a matter of time before my mind snaps from all the inane babble of the Uhall. *sighs*
     
  17. Mapper

    Mapper Crazed Zealot
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2005
    Messages:
    3,528
    Likes Received:
    110
    But Stupid Miner we have Ziggy! *Dances*
     
  18. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    There's little question that, barring some kind of irrational fit on part of EA (which is always possible as we all know), UO's quite likely to endure for some time to come.

    That isn't the same, however, as the game being worth playing, as having a good, rich, in-game experience.

    There needs, I would argue, to be fictional content other than Event Moderator events (which are great on Great Lakes, but I hear occasionally lacking on other shards), player-based content (mostly but not exclusively found in the RP Playstyle), and the occasional quests.

    Hell, currently one of the more important fiction-based quests, to fight the Undead infestation at the Holy City in Ter Mur, can't be done on American shards because the required monster only spawns on the Asian shards for some reason.

    Event Moderator events are great; they are one of the reasons I came to the Great Lakes shard. But unless you're prepared to make the EMs full-time employees and give them more money, they can't replace the "big picture" storylines.

    And RP communities are great too, I'm liking my time with Great Lakes' RolePlayers, but we players can't replace big picture story arcs any more than the EMs can, and in fact we're even less equipped to do so than the EMs.

    So the issue isn't whether or not the sky is falling. It's what happens next.

    -Galen's player
     
  19. wanderer1origin

    wanderer1origin Lore Master
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    May 26, 2005
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    48
    this is like i only have 1/3 of account s paid for woo hoo am happy saving money before end

    robot uo

    pay till enough dont

    lol
     
  20. popps

    popps Always Present
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2004
    Messages:
    13,445
    Likes Received:
    461


    Are there any new entries replacing the Developers that have left ?

    Or the team just has less people now ?
     
  21. Petra Fyde

    Petra Fyde Peerless Chatterbox
    Stratics Veteran Alumni Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2001
    Messages:
    30,889
    Likes Received:
    5,172
    Two posts of Cal's that seem to have bits that are being ignored:

    http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1614539&postcount=11
    http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=1614553&postcount=14
    Also please remember that the Devs we know about are only the ones brave enough to post here and get chewed up and spat out. There are any number who'd rather not subject themselves to the tender mercies of UHall.
     
  22. Ahuaeyjnkxs

    Ahuaeyjnkxs stranger diamond

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,315
    Likes Received:
    0
    We're not that bad... :p :link:
     
  23. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    For my part, I wasn't ignoring those posts, I had simply missed them entirely.

    Potentially good signs, though of course the specifics are highly dependent upon who's hired and what they are hired for. And who they are replacing.

    I, for my part, still need to know who's in charge of fiction now.

    -Galen's player
     
  24. Trebr Drab

    Trebr Drab Guest

    Heard it all before, so forgive me if I seem a little ho-hum about it.

    Funny, they all say the team is growing. UO must have thousands of developers working on it now.

    And just who are they listening to? The good folks here, the powergamer elite heavy board? Or to those like me who are saying what the good powergamer elite don't want to be said?

    Yet, I've been doing a lot of shopping around over the last few months. On GL, one of the more populated shards. And I've noticed a very disturbing trend. More and more houses that used to have vendor don't have vendors anymore. Especially along the roads where they used to be.
    And more disturbing, more and more open spots have popped up. Good ones. Hello, I've placed 2 18x18's in the last month. And in good locations, seems to me anyways, or else I wouldn't have moved out of my 12x16 in a very quiet, hilly and open, very nice location by the sea.

    So, what I mean to say is that UO is slowly dying, whether people want to admit it or not. So if the Devs are listening to the same people who brought this on by making this a powergamer elite dominated game, then I'm not too damn well thrilled about the fing prospect.
     
  25. So Cal is losing vet developers for a couple that know little to nothing about UO? Yikes!
     
  26. GalenKnighthawke

    GalenKnighthawke Grand Poobah
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    6,641
    Likes Received:
    1,163
    As negative as I have been of late, I'd like to think it's no more negative than is called for.

    And so I'd like to point some things.

    1. We don't know that they know nothing about UO; they might be promoting someone we don't know but has been around awhile, and then hiring someone new to replace the promoted person in his or her old capacity.

    2. Even if they hire someone entirely new, they may be a long-time UO player.

    3. Long-time player or long-time team member doesn't necessarily equal into a success, sadly. Anyone remember Darkscribe? Enthusiastic advocate for UO. Clearly loved the game. Experience on the team. He clearly wanted the position of Producer, relished having his chance to take the reins. He generated excitement in the player base.

    And yet, most of us would rate him negatively. We got a new, quite worthy client that ultimately failed, and was put to "gold" far before it was ready. So un-ready it was in fact that it's had to be replaced by another new client which has been described by the team as still being in beta.

    As much excitement as Darkscribe generated, as gifted and smart as he obviously was, as long as he'd worked on UO, his ultimate legacy is a client that's been effectively in various stages of testing for at least 3 years, not counting behind-the-scenes time.

    Don't get me wrong, there's causes for pessimism to be sure....Just we can't come to conclusions about the new hires until we first know who they are, and then see them perform....or not perform, as the case may be.

    -Galen's player
     
  27. Cyrah

    Cyrah Lore Keeper
    Stratics Veteran

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    977
    Likes Received:
    297
    You make sense but I will say that I feel a lot flatter than I did a month ago.

    Something fell.
     
  28. Slayvite

    Slayvite Certifiable
    Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2005
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    350
    Were approaching March and still no closer to seeing a new Magencia.
    I remember they said early in the new year, do we add that comment now to the 'soon' 'next update' 'were working on it' section.
    It's clear by the very sparse replies (not counting on farewell threads) that they are all busy forming and sending out there own CV's.
    Bug list's grow with each patch, even when said patch is ment to cure the bugs. I think its safe to assume the knowledge of the Devs on our vintage (well not vintage more 'old and batterd') client is wearing thin.

    I have to agree with other posters that my shard 'Europa' is becoming very dessolate with vast open spaces to fit 18x18's and long periods of gameplay without seeing another sole.
    This 'normally' would be the busy season during winter since peep's dont venture out due to the bad weather but you have to agree this year it's been quiet, very quiet. Even at EM events you can see the downfall in players attending 'item' events.

    Devs, take a leaf out of Istaria's book (Horizons as some will remember it) Get the money together and buy UO before its to late. Players will put up with alot if they know the game is in good hands, but like this and owned by a rapidly failing (and thus binning games left/right and centre) company like EA peeps will cancel and leave rather than waste funds.
     
  29. Tina Small

    Tina Small Stratics Legend
    Stratics Veteran 4H

    Joined:
    May 12, 2008
    Messages:
    7,529
    Likes Received:
    1,914
    In the vendor houses that are still up, even in Luna, it isn't unusual on a lot of shards to find empty vendor after empty vendor. You see many of those empty vendors advertising "SA items" but now they're completely empty. It's as if folks came back just to experience SA and then moved on. Or they just gave up on the idea of trying to keep vendors stocked and left that task to a handful of people.
     
  30. Llewen

    Llewen Grand Inquisitor
    Professional Stratics Veteran Stratics Legend Campaign Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2006
    Messages:
    4,699
    Likes Received:
    200
    A falling sky is always so much more fashionable... ;)