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[The Sparrow's Nest] January 13, 2012

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lady Laurel, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. Lady Laurel

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    [​IMG] I was getting a little tired of my usual hunting, so I decided to do some exploring.

    At my first stop I kept hearing news about some kind of letter that was expected, and this
    is what was being said . . .

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    And this . .

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    As an avid shopper, I can’t wait to see what new items will be available in the store.

    Well, the sun has set and it is time for me to find an inn to rest my weary head.
    Safe Travels and Happy Hunting to thee.
     
  2. Zosimus

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    Great news and thank you Lady Laurel!

    Got to love hearing the tweets in Uhall. :)
     
  3. Woodsman

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    What is it with higher ups taking such an interest in UO, but then never publicly supporting UO?

    Being cynical, I know, but it always seems like somebody above the producer takes a big interest in the producer's letters.
     
  4. AirmidCecht

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    I think based on the community reaction to simple words like "care bear" and "wild west" they have a team locked in a room with a highlighter and white out playing out 100 different scenarios in how anything could possibly be interpreted. Then a blind survey emailed out with a poll scaling 1-10 on how likely a player would be to over or under react to each letter :D

    I mean, it's what I would do.....
     
  5. Lady Tia

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    Exactly LOL :lick:
     
  6. GalenKnighthawke

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    True, and Lord knows that I myself made much of those words and shall continue to!, save that those remarks were uttered spontaneously in interviews.

    Granted it is possible that the letters were assigned a high level of vetting as a result of those spontaneous remarks.

    So your theory that EA proper was irrationally spooked by our rational reactions to those remarks is a valid one.

    Valid, but I don't quite buy it.

    Personally, my darker and more paranoid explanation is that EA takes no interest in nourishing UO along but does take an interest in controlling it and in controlling communication related to it. I have oft-discovered that in corporate structures there are many people who take no interest in certain projects save to exercise arbitrary control for no obvious reason.

    Perhaps my best evidence for this was the state of the game video on which so much was pinned but months of EA vetting reduced it to an approximately 2-minute piece of nothing that used as its primary selling point some superb footage that was done not by them, but by Sosaria Reels.

    Not that it matters all that much to me as long as we get an intelligently-written letter sooner or later, and as long as they keep going in the direction they have been. This upcoming Publish (the one in 74) just seems really nice.

    -Galen's player
     
  7. Woodsman

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    See below.
     
  8. Martyna Zmuir

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    Something tells me someone likes micromanaging all-things UO related.

    At the very least, EA has some serious bureaucratic red tape hurdles it likes to whimsically use - like on the long-awaited 2min video that said nothing and started out extremely confusing (The "No" answer without any context whatsoever.).
     
  9. Woodsman

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    If there were people above Skalski who were truly concerned with the image of UO, we would have had a brand new UO website that was actually useful, long before now.

    They need to stop worrying about how everything is going to be interpreted. This is utterly ridiculous that UO, Camelot, and Warhammer are treated like this when no other major MMO treats its players like this or worries about how things are going to be interpreted.

    I said this in another thread, every week I get several emails from companies making MMOs that flood me with information about future expansions in an effort to get back. Blizzard did a PR blitz about an expansion that won't be out for another 6 months.
     
  10. Woodsman

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    BioWare executives have publicly stated that UO, Camelot, and Warhammer are all under their control and that they and they alone decide what happens with them. This happened around the time that BioWare was promoted to the same level as EA Sports and the other big divisions/groups.

    They claimed that UO, Camelot, and Warhammer decisions are made by the BioWare executives. They even laughed in an interview at the notion that EA was controlling the Mythic MMOs, and said that in reality, BioWare is in charge. I'm talking the top 3-4 people who run BioWare.

    There is not much bureaucracy between BioWare and the CEO of EA - Frank Gibeau is literally the only person really between BioWare and the EA CEO, and I don't see him or the EA CEO spending time poring over UO communications, because Frank is not only responsible for BioWare (Star Wars), he's responsible for several of the biggest titles EA makes. UO would be way down his list.

    I think that was at a time when they were schizophrenic about UO, Camelot, and Warhammer, and what they wanted to do with them. Since then, somebody seems to have decided on a path for all three games. Camelot is getting new user work done, UO graphics and dungeon revamps, Warhammer is getting an arena game, and BioWare was promoted to its own level.

    If I had to pick between micro-management or lack of interest, I'd point to lack of interest. Whoever signs off on Jeff's letters probably doesn't really care and he/she is probably spending most of their time on Star Wars-related issues. They'll squeeze in a review of Jeff's letter when they get around to it.

    If they were micro-managing, we would have had a legitimate official website long before now, because anybody truly concerned about the image of UO would have made that a priority.
     
  11. Woodsman

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    You know what I'd like to hear from Jeff's letter?

    A commitment from BioWare. I'd like to hear where they feel the Mythic MMOs fit into BioWare's strategy.

    BioWare can't dump a bunch of devs and artists into UO and help bring things around in a week, but BioWare can take a few of their numerous web developers/designers and put them to work on UO for a week and make a drastic change. UOHerald.com has the same software as SWTOR.com. Kai Schober has even said himself that a lot of this stuff is way over his head and that his plate is full. Help him out, and help UO out.

    A nicely done website done with the help of a few BioWare web developers over a week would show a huge commitment to UO.


    I also wish Paul Barnett would quick dicking around with his idiotic hint dropping about a UO facebook game.

    Paul, if you read this, your hint dropping was cute a year ago. Now it's just you being a dickhead, or your support fell through and you're trying to drum up interest and get somebody to fund you.

    Either way, if you bothered reading around, you'd find that fewer and fewer people get excited when you mention something Ultima related. People don't like to be led on for so long.
     
  12. Martyna Zmuir

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    Sorry, I didn't mean 'micromanaging UO' to mean that they actually cared about it, or wanted it to succeed. I just mean that they are an anal-retentive Type-A control freak who likes feeling powerful by having "the last word" on anything and everything they possibly can. Hence the innumerable delays, rewrites, secrecy, and lack of expendable money.


    I remember the interview your talking about. Honestly, if this is truly the case then... well... my love of Mass Effect aside... BioWare sucks.

    You'd think, if they have the control they claim, they they'd put a bit more into UO/DAoC/WAR then just Kai. I'd hoped that Jeff was that person, but 17 posts, random Tweets, and one producer's letter after nearly 5 months... ehhh... my enthusiasm/patience has waned. The fact that we can Tweet him is nice, don't get me wrong, Pub. 74 seems decent enough, etc... just... eh. Years of silence and secrecy have taken their toll.

    There is no bubbling font of vitality in UO's leadership, no outreach to the players, nothing past the same old "big things are coming!" spin doctoring. We just need something more then what we've heard before. It's the'fresh face with the same story' syndrome.