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The Tamer Thief

Discussion in 'UO Tamer' started by I FLEX YA HEARD, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Need some advice on my new template

    It goes as follows when fully suited up (705 skill cap)

    110 - lore
    110 - taming
    100 - hiding
    100 - magery
    95 - snooping
    100- stealing
    100 - stealth
    85 - vet

    total skill points 805

    real skill...

    95 - lore
    82 - taming
    100- hiding
    100- magery
    95- snooping
    80 - stealing
    68 - stealth
    85 - vet

    total real points

    +5 lore/+ 5 taming - talisman
    +20 stealing/+20 stealth - legs
    +13 taming/+12 stealth - ring
    +10 taming/10+ lore - mark of trav

    all 100% lrc half decent mage suit

    the reason why snooping is only 95 is because when you search character on uo.com it will appear more obvious that you are in fact a thief. This template if followed properly will have gm magery, hiding and master lore appear.
  2. Bloodeye

    Bloodeye Guest

    Who is actually searching at uo.com for someone and can remember his skills?

  3. man you would be surprised..with all these hardcore trammy guilds out there all it takes is a little suspicion and your cover is blown...

    but anyways, i think its a solid template...just need items to complete it

    what does everyone think?
  4. Sarphus

    Sarphus Guest

    Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the synergy of your skill selections.

    My assumption is that you chose taming on your thief so people don't realize you're a thief and you have more time to pick from them, but I really don't understand stealth with taming in general.

    Your pets can't stealth, so I don't think stealth has a lot of synergy with taming. I have friends that run stealth tamers and swear by them, but I haven't seen them do anything with their stealth tamer that I can't do on at least 4 other builds and those 4 other builds can do a lot of things a stealth tamer can't.

    That being said...
    I do see synergy with stealth and magery, cause you can stealth using hiding or magery invis, which can be handy. The problem is your pets will either be getting killed by someone or they will be following you around showing exactly where you are.

    I'm not sure how it would work out, but it seems to me that you would gain a lot of escape ability if you put ninjitsu on your template for the animal forms.

    Also, I'm not sure how effective you will be as a thief. Sure, you'll get away with stealing a couple of times before people realize you're a thief, but mots people will figure it out pretty quickly. I ran a thief for the first 2 yrs of UO and I can recognize a thief just by how they approach me. if someone I don't think is a thief approaches me like that, I move. Maybe that's where the stealth comes in, but again the pets will reveal your location or have to wait off screen :)
  5. Nexus

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    How do you plan to get around passive reveals? That's the weak point in your template. You'll quickly get known as a thief trust me worrying about UO.com isn't an issue as there are only so many people in Fel PvPing and your going to get revealed every time you steal. A way to avoid passive reveal is very important to a non Siege thief these days, and the only really effective way is Ninjitsu's Shadow Jump.
  6. Mogluk

    Mogluk Guest

    try siege with that template.
  7. lol reveals aren't that bad at 120...maybe gm might be a little worse but only time you are revealed is when someone theres a crowd or high detect hidden...

    its more of a trammel char but still has the benefits of a fel thief....its not like i go around fel trying to steal bandages... I steal **** from guilds or w/e...do spawns and steal their scrolls...

    the temp is ALOT more fun than just a regular thief...check it out for yourself
  8. Arch Magus

    Arch Magus Guest

    Only 95 Snooping?

    that's dumb...
  9. ok you ******s, post an innovated version of this template then...
  10. Ok I redid the template a bit....check it out

    110 lore
    110 taming
    100 hiding
    110 stealth
    100 stealing
    100 snooping
    100 magery
    80 vet

    810 skill points (705 base)
  11. Nexus

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    Only need 90 with a blessed Burglar's Bandanna with +10 on it

    I run a thief on Chessy most the time (actually more than my tamers), and he's set up kinda funky

    Stealing 112.1 67.1 heading down to 60
    Hiding 100.0 100.0
    Snooping 100.0 92.2 down to 90
    Stealth 100.0 75.0
    Ninjitsu 98.0 83.0 up to 100
    Poisoning 80.0 80.0
    Chivalry 72.7 72.7 down to 70
    Fencing 70.0 70.0
    Tactics 70.0 70.0

    I use Shadow Dancers for +20 Stealing and Stealth and the Burglar's Bandanna (+10 Steal, +10 Snoop, +10 Stealth) along with a +15 Ninjitsu Bracelet and +15 Steal Ring. The template works pretty well to be honest as I have a Talisman of the Fey to boost stealing up and carry an extra bracelet with +15 steal on it......

    Stealth stops failing at 75, there's no reason to go over as I find I get revealed as much by passive reveal with my thief at 75 as with my tamer at 120 stealth.

    The Fencing and Tactics are so I can do Infectious Strike with a dagger and the 80 poisoning lets me apply deadly poison and boosts it's effect up a level to lethal 80% of the time.
  12. Arch Magus

    Arch Magus Guest

    I understand Nexus, my thief on chessy has ~92ish Snooping with a blessed Bandana.

    The template he's making uses Mark of Trav with 10 Taming/lore.:scholar:

    Bet you thought this was the Thief forum, didn't you? :hahaha: j/k!
  13. Nexus

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    Nah I knew it was Taming forum...I frequent here too :) I've got 3 tamers of my own. Just pointing out how his differs from one of the many standard thief templates and why I have mine set up the way I do.
  14. Actually, this template can be created easily with burglars bandanna instead of the mark of trav...thought it would need trav but i guess not :)

    810 skill points used..something like that but thats on 705 cap..

    imagine if you had the extra +15 skill points and +5 stealth from leaf cloak?? wow...

    id probably raise stealing to 120 and make it perfect...