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The time has come for larger runebooks

Discussion in 'UHall' started by atlanticScorpion, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. atlanticScorpion

    atlanticScorpion Adventurer
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    Spell books contain 64 spells and Bod books hold even more. Now Sot books hold tons of sots. Could we please have rune books that hold more runes. I don't use the enhanced client so when I die its like I am looking through my wife's purse for a cough drop. Some of you women know what I mean. Some of you girls seem to live out of you purses like we use to live out of our banks boxes. I carry around like 15 rune books and have a hard time finding small loot in the mess.
     
  2. Ultimaholic

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    I agree,would be totally awesome if we could combine the amount of 3 or 4 runebooks into one. I use the EC but its still stupid to hafta carry so many runebooks when all the other comparable books hold so much more.

    Great idea :D
     
  3. Jade of Sonoma

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    atlanticScorpion, thank you for making me laugh and almost sputter my coffee over the keyboard with your "like looking through your wife's purse for a cough drop" and girl's live out of purses like we used to live out of bank boxes.

    What a good way to start of this day! Laughing. :lol:

    And as for the topic .. you just opened Pandora's Box. More space for runes in books would do more to give people extra Space in their houses than Brit Clean-up has done!!
     
  4. atlanticScorpion

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    ahh you got one of those purses. Hehehe lol
     
  5. EvilPixieWorks

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    Didn't we just do this SAME topic within the last month?

    Large debate...

    Big thread.

    Why go into it again with a new thread?
     
  6. popps

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    Good luck........

    It is almost a year now that I suggested some love to runes storage but I am still waiting......

    http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/218402-rune-books-would-you-like-32-more-runes-new-book.html

    http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/2...rage-thread-devs-please-come-aid-players.html

    In the meantime we've had Books for SoTs which could already be binded and Boxes for seeds which are very welcome, do not get me wrong, but I think there is quite several ther items that should need better storaging.

    As I said, I would LOVE to see an entire Publish just focused on better storaging which would mean increase the items stackable, add new containers to better store existing items (like Treasure Maps, Messages in a Bottle, Nets, etc. etc.....).

    I keep waiting..........
     
  7. atlanticScorpion

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    I am sorry if this topic already came up. But it might be one of those things you have to keep asking for before they take it off the back burner. Did they mention a problem with making such a book?
     
  8. Maximus of Lck

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    Why on earth would you be carrying around 15 runebooks with you? My main carries 4 and the last one isn't even half full. I can easily get anywhere very quickly with these 4 books.

    Now, spellbooks contain words, and you can fit alot of words into a book. Runebooks on the other hand, contain runes, which are the size of a brick. Hey guys! Look at my new runebook that holds 64 runes! (As you drag it on the ground behind you)

    I remember WAY back every time I died I had to remark a set of runes to the few towns I visited regularly. There were no blessed runebooks. I had a bag with 10 or so runes to where I went. If I died, I usually lost it and had to replace it. People forget how easy things are now. There is absolutely no reason to carry that many runes with you at all times. If you have that many runes you must be recalling from one building to the next.
     
  9. eve

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    Maximums...

    One of the delights of this game is that we each have the option of playing as we wish..

    If there is truly a newer, better way to manipulate the character to make it easier, fine. Perhaps if you would make more specific suggestions as to how easily you do this, it would be more helpful. I often carry six or eight, sometimes more.

    Would love to see rune books that hold more runes. On the other hand, am glad we can at least name the books!
     
  10. Krinkle

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    I could think of.... oh..... 150,000 other things the game should have that would improve it far more than bigger runebooks.
     
  11. unified

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    ... then, go and start 150,000 threads about them, and stay out of this one.
     
  12. sherkborg

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    Just like a new item. Add a bigger runebook for characters to make.

    Dont touch old ones, just add a new enhansed runebook with more resource cost that holds LOTS more runes.

    It would be better used then stupid doormats that you coded.
     
  13. Krinkle

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    I'm sure that people would enjoy bug fixes far more than increasing something that we already have.
     
  14. Madrid

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    Better yet make it a drop with a special name i.e. ."Nystul's lost book of Teleportation" (64 runebook with no charges needed to recall around). Players will be tripping over themselves to get a crack at one.

    They don't need to have these ridiculous items dropping in Shame when they could be adding "desirable items" that do not effect game balance.

    Scrolls of Transcendence book should have been a shame drop. So many things needed: Alacrity Book, Treasure Map Book, Powerscroll Book.

    I agree with the OP more runes are needed to runebooks. Even in the EC it's a headache having to carrying 5+ Books.
     
  15. Warpig Inc

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    After 3 books is a library. Build some shelves and refine your runes selection in carried books. Most my guys carry one book and I lock runes down at hub house. Even with one book I could go through and toss out 4 runes easy. Sloppy, Lazy or lacking the ability to rub that left and right brain cell together. Try the runebook dye tub for finding that needed book. Miners and T hunters no longer have need of the bog'O books to be played. Whats the new book going to be. Best runes on first two pages with the nice to have could've been in the house for all characters to use on the latter pages?

    Let us see your list of 48 runes a character must have. Sure the vets might be able to see your issues. Why 3 books are enough.
     
  16. NBG

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    My main issue with rune books are that when you die, items can hide under the the rune books within the backpack.

    While larger rune book would be great but might take too long to implement. How about a special rune books pouch that is blessed and can only hold rune books in it.

    That way we can better organize stuff in backpack without having to deal with too many books since they will all be in that pouch. When you die, rune books stays in that pouch and stays organized.....
     
  17. Madrid

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    How about for starters my 200+ Treasure Map locations.

    Felucca Dungeons & Trammel Dungeons (20+)

    Feluccua Towns & Trammel Towns (20+)

    Felucca T2A entrance points for spawning (8+)

    Various spawning locations for resources (12+)

    Rune to Jhelom Bull Pen for a quick GGS taming gain.

    Various vendor locations that sell goods & Resources (10+)

    Shall I go on?

    Even if Runebooks were bumped to say 64 I would be carrying multiple books on certain templates.

    Gimme a break....
     
  18. virtualhabitat

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    I vote for a new sub-forum to hold all of the large runebook threads.
     
  19. Maximus of Lck

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    No need to carry 200 tmap locations. They are useless now. Sure you might come across an old map or even have a stash of old maps that still have hard coded locations. No need to carry them with you, though.

    Even my treasure hunter character has only 3 books. I can easily get anywhere in the world within minutes. One book of towns, one of dungeons, and one with a few specific areas marked such as the brit xroads. I dont need a rune marked for every screen of the world because i'm not that lazy.
     
  20. Madrid

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    I'm not going to derail this thread but that you can get to all of the T-Maps locations with 3 books is baloney. I strive for effeciency and time is the most precious resource of all. It has nothing to do with being lazy. I've peddled heal toe throughout all of Britannia time and time again and have no desire to do so when I can get to where I'm going in 1 shot. You want to run around all over that's your perogative.

    All of the T-Map locations are still valid and then more have been added. I'm not sure where this nonesense of the 200 Tmap locations being invalid has come from. I've dug up plenty of tmaps that are in the same old spots where they've always been. There is not a infinite number of T-Map locations...it's not just random where these treasure locations are buried. Sometimes I'll go to a spot and have 3-4 maps on the exact same spot.

    Bottom line is someone is spewing nonesense about the old T-Maps they are very much valid and there is only a finite number of treasure map locations I prefer to save time and have a rune for them all.:D
     
  21. enderz

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    Runebooks have had the same number of rune spots available since the game started. Since then we have added in more facets and available areas to mark.

    My Dungeon/creatures runes I have marked is 2 books, 1.4 books for town locations/banks and 1 book for misc things I mark of interest. That's 5 books on my tamer at all times.

    I think if runebooks got a bump from 16 to 20-24 rune spots... it would be nice.
     
  22. popps

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    Really ?

    We already had Scrolls of Transcendency which could be binded with each other and yet, with an item that is rather new, time was spent on making Books to hold Transcendency Scrolls.........

    We already had Seeds which, in many cases, could stack with each other and yet, time was spent on making Boxes to hold Seeds.........

    I do not see reasons why we should not see then also other items like Runes, Treasure Maps, Messages in a Bottle etc. also get their storage be improved and enhanced for a more enjoyable game to be played.

    That is how I see it.
     
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    No thanks, not something else added as drop when it could be designed as a craftable thus giving something new to crafters to enjoy their character playing with.

    We already have tons of drops, no need for new ones.

    I am also very disappointed that the Books for Sots and the Box for Seeds were made as gifts. They could also have been made as new craftables adding more juice to playing a crafter.
     
  24. Madrid

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    This thread is getting derailed and even though it's you popps I'll bite.

    There is virtually zero difference between making an item a craftable and giving it away in the form of a "gift". In both cases everyone and their brother will have umpteen of them unless you make the ingredients required in the crafting process difficult to obtain.
     
  25. Theo_GL

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    My Xmass wish list:

    1 - Bod Books take 1 storage like SOT books
    2 - Runebooks that hold 64 locations
    3 - Bod/SOT like book for Tmaps
    4 - Bod/SOT like book for Holiday/Anny Tickets
    5 - Bod/SOT like book for Powerscrolls

    I'd like this game to be more about playing the game than storing/sorting all this crap.
     
  26. Maximus of Lck

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    Maybe you should go read my post again. I didn't ever say I had every tmap location marked in 3 books. I said I use 3 books on my treasure hunter. 16 towns, 16 dungeons, and about 6 or 8 specific areas marked. All I do is recall to the nearest marked rune and RUN to the area and dig the treasure up. While you're re-reading my post you should study up on Publish 67 that randomized all new treasure maps:

    Publish 67 - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia

    Once again, pre-publish 67 maps still have hardcoded locations, all tmaps since pub 67 are random locations.
     
  27. Madrid

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    No need to re-read your post. I go by with what I experience within the game regardless of what is stated in a publish. There is a finite number of treasure map locations. I've dug the same spots where I've marked my runes numerous times since that publish. There's nothing random about it...
     
  28. Ezekiel Zane

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    I've wished for those two for years.
     
  29. popps

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    Well, I suggested making them craftables not really as in regards to their wider availability, but more to give crafters some new items to craft and, thus, play those characters with......

    And, if the process is enough lengthy and complicated, for example like to make ammunitions for High Seas ships, chances are that most players might not want to bother with the lengthy process and leave it to crafters.......

    Personally, I would like to see again crafters in the game be crafters, and not mules used in support of fighters as it sometimes may be.....

    I think, that players who enjoy playing a crafter, on average may not be deterred from lengthy or complex crafting processes because they actually enjoy the crafting and do not find it annoying or boring. Since other players, instead, "might" be deterred from crafting by lengthy and complicated crafting processes to make certain items, this might allow players who enjoy crafting to have a market selling their crafted wares to those players who, even though they have their own crafters, do not want to bother with lengthy and complex crafting processes. It would be a way to allow a market to exist where there would otherwise be none, if most players are self-sufficient in their crafting needs.
     
  30. Theo_GL

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    And since its the season of being greedy - how about a simple 'Alpha sort' on the bod books? Add that to the list.
     
  31. Kellgory

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    To bad we can't have a book bag that just holds books (chiv, spell, rune, myst, ninja, ect.), and when you click on the bag it shows all the books that you have like a bookcase. The one row for rune books, another row for spell books and another for misc books, and have it where it displays the title of the book or properties when you arrow over the book spine.
     
  32. Jade of Sonoma

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    Yes, atlanticScorpion! And worse yet; I have a very bad habit of dumping my purse full of marked runes, rune books and loot, into lock down containers -- to be sorted later - - need I say more? rolleyes:

    - - so it's possible nothing, not even larger rune books would help. I just need more time for sorting junk.