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There Needs to be a way to Alter Items Back from Gargoyle!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Fat Lip, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. Fat Lip

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    This stinks that you cannot alter an item back from Gargoyle. Items should be alterable back and forth.

    Who's with me on this!?! :cursing:
     
  2. MalagAste

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    Oh I agree and humans and elves need to be able to alter items as well.

    Infact I still believe that all items should be alterable... so long as it remains true to the item..... Like you can't take platemail legs and make them leaf..... you'd have to switch from plate to woodland..... but a floppy hat could be altered to a bandanna... or a skullcap..... or whatever and keep its properties.

    Just my opinion.
     
  3. GarthGrey

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    I"m still waiting for a Dev to explain to me why my Gargoyle that I had to pay for, can't wear Armor of Fortune, and has no equivalent. :sad2:
     
  4. puni666

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    I remember a dev saying they're planing on making it reversible eventually they just wanted to at least get is so people could convert more useful items for gargs asap then after a while make it so you can do it back to human.
     
  5. Fink

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    It was the usual "Here's some shiny new stuff that you can't get unless you buy the upgrade!" thing, but it backfired.

    I don't see why any one piece of gear can't just look different on whoever wears it. It's already done between genders. If a female dons male armour, say a bone helm, it shrinks to her size. If I want to craft a leaf tunic in the size and cut for a human, why not? It's still only made from leather. And there's no reason a strong warrior can't wear heavy stone armour if a gargoyle can actually fly in it.
     
  6. chuckoatl

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    The AOF sucks these days anyway. You can make a much better suit on a garg with the pendant. When you can make base resists out of leather for gargs with 12+ in each resist, makes suit building rather lame. I mean I have a protection proof, corpse proof, 16 MR, 100 LRC, 40 LMC, 25 HPI, 26 MI, 60 DCI, 12 SDI suit for my garg........ what more do you need?
     
  7. Pinco

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    the best thing of an aof is the 200 luck not the lrc...
     
  8. chuckoatl

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    Forgot........ PVM boards.
     
  9. Splup

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    Thou it would be a problem that you get lot higher base resists to garg armor... So if you could alter em to human there would be no sense making any other armor then garg.
     
  10. Pinco

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    PVM boards? have you ever know someone using the AOF for pvp with that res? :lol:
     
  11. Splup

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    Actually at one point AoF was very popular on PvP mages, 15 DCI and 40 LRC wasn't bad at all. Now that there's imbuing, faction arties etc. out there AoF has lost its place in PvP...
     
  12. Pinco

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    oh yes, I forget the 15 dci... maybe someone could consider it in the past... when there are no ML where LRC 100 come with 4 pieces :D
     
  13. Warpig Inc

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    Ya its rough to think their is something else to do in game beside thumb sitting and spinning at Yew Gate. Or running about like a chicken with head cut off from champ spawn to champ spawn. Never dawning that you and your buddies could do 3 champs in 3 hours instead of lurking about for 3 hours looking for one to raid. And if getting raided a worry there is always doing Swoop farming.
     
  14. Sonoma

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    /Signed
     
  15. canary

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    It was a mistake having race items only to begin with.

    All races should be able to wear and use the same stuff, just tweak the freakin' display graphics. If they wanted to just sell more 'boxes' of ML and then SA, they could have just made the newest stuff able to be equipped if you bought the expansion.

    UO earned a big fail to doing 'race only' items. rolleyes:
     
  16. Evlar

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    Especially when most of the new skills and items didn't actually work properly upon release...

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  17. Lord Chaos

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    Why not simply make all items able to change into any other item that can be in that slot?

    Even leather to plate, yes. Just do away with the "Mage Armor" property and say that "mages have learned how to channel spells in metal armor now", voila, problem solved.

    If I want to wear a bandana instead of a plate helmet, then that should be fine, it should all be cosmetics.
     
  18. chuckoatl

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    My necro is still wearing the AoF. It sucks, but I just havent reworked the suit.
     
  19. MalagAste

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    Isn't that what I said like 10 posts ago?


    Though I think that things should only be altered into like objects of the same class... still it's pretty much the same.
     
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    Everything should be alterable by buying a deed from an NPC at 25,000 gold.

    Great gold sink. Everyone is happy.

    25k is nothing to spend to alter an item but it will take gold out of the economy.

    Of course, EA will probably try to sell an Alter tool at the Game Code store with 50 charges for $4.99.
     
  21. yars

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    and then, youll have people reselling for 20mil on there vendors, no thnks
    the items should be alterable by the crafting skill they fall under, plain and simple
    no deeds
    no tokens
    no BS
     
  22. Fat Lip

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    Yeah, I agree with you. I don't think turning this into a gold sink is a very good idea. The items should be alterable without a problem or a fee.
     
  23. Another Lamer

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    Most people use AOF and still for for a pvp mage.......I even blessed mine :p
     
  24. puni666

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    You're behind the times then. Still effective yes... but you're wasting mods over all. It's really only a difference in 2 or 3 mana regen, but now a days anything helps.

    I'm not sure on how much an item bless deed is, but lets say it's 100mil.. You'd have to die 125,000 times to make that blessed AOF worth blessing assuming it costs 800 gold to insure a AOF :/...
     
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    He could have used a personal bless deed. That plus a clothing blessed hat will give 60 lrc. Technically, legit item blessed deeds should be rarer than pheonix armour by now.

    From an insurance point of view, even a clothing bless deed takes apprx 200 deaths to justify its costs YMMV.

    The main advantage of using blessed eqm in pvp is to prevent your killer from collecting your insurance money.

    Althouh the mage armour and 200 luck are wasted properties compared to a piece imbued leather armour, the extra 20 lrc on the aof is the only way to make some artifact heavy 100% lrc suits work.

    1 good thing arties have over imbued eqm, they are all at 255 durability. No need to spend almost 2 full bottles of pof to get the durability to 255. Those pofs have quadrupled in costs. Multiply that by 7 imbued and optimized armour/weapon pieces and you just spent a small fortune on pofs. Small matter for most, but still...
     
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    back on topic, im glad i seen this post, i just started a new thread before i found this unfortunately, but i agree..."There NEEDS to be a way to alter items back from gargoyle to human".. end of discussion! ..Why can you alter a tangle to fit a gargoyle ... but now theres no possible way to change it back?!?!?!... I find this utterly ridiculous and i really cant even believe, makes no sense ... how could it be altered in the first place then?!?!.....I'm a bit frustrated , I just bought an altered tangle...gargoyles only..... and so i bought it figuring for sure i could just alter it again back to human, buttt nope, of course not, nothing ever works that way lol.... plz i'd say 99% of people would agree with me on this, ..."If it can be altered, it should be able to be altered back, thats it" :arr::devil:
     
  27. Cetric

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    Before imbuing the aof was a killer piece with dci glasses, inquis, and 3 runic pieces....
     
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    Sorry we all don't play UO like you do or think we should.
     
  30. >DatGuyUKnow<

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    AOF used to be the only chest piece used in mage PvP. I still use it on several characters. Once again, a trammy pretending to have a clue about fel.
     
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    Swoop farming? :lol:
     
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    Chucko was obviously a bit off base with that comment but you are just as much or more off base commenting on something you quite obviously know nothing about - pvp.

    I know its hard for alot of people to understand but it is a fact that most pvpers also do a fair to large amount of pvm also. I have been in half a dozen pvp across 3 shards and everyone of them also did alot of pvm. Even the best hardcore pvp guilds such as CHAMPS on Chessy and SX on Catskills.

    This quite obviously means that only 1 group can talk knowledgably about the whole game in general - pvpers. Its the truth, deal with it.
    And please spare me all of your pvp 'history' lessons about how you know what you are talking about because one time, long ago you pvped. Ofc you quit pvp because everybody was a trash talking brat and you couldnt handle it. AI monsters were a better fit for you I guess.

    Bottom line is that if you are not currently pvping or pvming you cannot knowledgably talk about either.
     
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    :lol:

    You cannot talk, I hold the ultimate truth. Deal with it.
     
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    Hey now, i use it for pvp ! 15 dci +40 lrc = one less item in the siut that needs 20 lrc . resists are so easy to cap & corpse proof.
     
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    Don't hate me for this, but i personally think once something is altered... it stays altered.
    When something is GENERALLY altered, you cannot put it back to it's original form.
    An over simplified example is if you carve out a sphere from a square... you can never make it back into a sqaure of it's original size.
     
  36. Madrid

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    Me! You got my vote.:thumbup1:
     
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    Im all for the idea if they did not allow altered items to be imbued. Wait, do they allow them to be imbued now?