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This BUG has been around long enough!!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Blood Ghoul, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Blood Ghoul

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    Dear Devs,

    I know just based on the nature of this game its going to have bugs but the last major patch (several weeks ago) created a huge problem when it comes to opening containers in the EC. The most recent container you open goes behind the previous instead of on top. And once you get 2+ open it gets so supper laggy.

    Again I understand some "bugs" have been around for 17 years and not fixed yet but this new one is a HUGE ISSUE.

    Please make the fix priority number 1!

    Thanks,

    Blood Ghoul
     
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    Be prepared to wait a week or so and then they will tell you to submit it using the generic form.


    What you need to do is add some complaints about deco into it and mesanna will be on that like white on rice.
     
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  3. Larisa

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    Just curious...I downloaded the EC just so I could get the hue numbers off my holiday boxes and I did notice this issue...but why is it a HUGE issue? I mean...I know we all have our own play styles and stuff but..I can't see it being HUGE issue..annoying..yes. I had to open all my boxes to id them and having to move them around cus they were opening behind other ones was a bit of a pain but I didn't have any excessive lag or other issues.

    Is there something else that is happening that is making this a HUGE issue? I mean...containers opening behind each other isn't exactly a life-ending situation so I'm just curious why it has to be priority number 1.
     
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  4. The Craftsman

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    Err. No. How about they make eliminating duping, scripting, hacking and fixing the store priority number 1. Ok thats 4 things but you get my drift.
     
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  5. Blood Ghoul

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    The way I see it is its a broken aspect of the game. I know we have all been complaining about the recent IDOC changes but those are really not bugs but more of a feature of the game we are unhappy with. People are complaining that Faster Casting cap is too low, again an aspect of the game that some want changed.

    I do not know of a truly broken feature that is on par with this. That is unintended.

    In the past I used to keep several containers open when crafting and with the odd lag issue I can only keep a couple open and then we I open new ones the go to the back. I may be the only person who is having an issue with this....
     
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  6. BrianFreud

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    Hmm, how about blessed items not reequipping when you open your corpse? Just the first bug that comes to mind...
     
  7. SlayerofBunnys

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    You are not alone. It definitely slows me when trying to loot multiple corpses but is most annoying when I open a secondary container within a secure or my bank.

    While I don't feel that it should be priority 1, I do feel it should be in the upper 50% especially since it is relatively new and therefore is not too deeply embedded at this point.
     
  8. Nyre

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    I use the EC as well and Notice the same thing however I don't have any issue with it lagging my computer, You may want to look at other software that you are running in the background for the cause of the lagginess as I don't experience any lag at all. I use the ASUS Republic of Gamers 2013 model. I had issues with Lag with the EC when I had a HP laptop with generic hardware with the EC maybe that could be your issue is your computer that you are running it on, but I don't know as I am not privy to your computers specs.
     
  9. Dot_Warner

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    Get Pinco's UI, he fixed this a while ago...
     
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  10. Nyre

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    I use Pincos as well and if he is complaining about Lag Pincos might not be the best option for him
     
  11. DJAd

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    Yes Pinco UI will fix this BUT it should be addressed in the standard client also.
     
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    He's done a lot to improve lag the past few updates, especially the issues I had. However, you're right to suggest it may be a PC issue, since the EC client is a severe resource hog for no valid reason.

    I completely agree, I just wouldn't suggest anyone hold their breath...
     
  13. Mervyn

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    Why should this be a priority?

    I've had bugs posted from 2012, why is this one more urgent?
     
  14. Blood Ghoul

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    You can open 4 or so loaded chests with zero lag? This is the only time I lag and it didn't start until the current issue of the containers opening behind others. Others in my teamspeak are experiencing the same lag issue with numerous containers open.
     
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    Truth be told its not more important. The interesting thing about UO is no matter which side of an issue you fall on there will always be people on the other side. If tomorrow there was no more housing or no one could equip War Forks there would be players who support it and those against it. Others may have no problem moving their backpack every time they open a bag/box in their backpack but I think it sucks. So I am going to beat this drum until they at least recognize it.

    Blood Ghoul
     
  16. Larisa

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    I'm sure they recognize it...this isn't the first time it's been mentioned :) Remember...just because they don't post in EVERY thread about EVERY bug or issue doesn't mean they don't know about it. They actively read everything posted here and probably have a HUGE notebook or text file or SOMETHING on their desk/computer with a list of everything that needs to be fixed/tweaked etc.

    They don't HAVE to come on here and say HEY we know about it thanks for the report....just know that they DO read things here, they DO listen and they DO fix stuff..maybe not right away..sometimes maybe they can't, but you know they will try and do what they can, and if they can't or won't for some reason they tell us.

    So posting it over and over and over is like ..well you know...stick...horse...:) So posting it once is sufficient enough to let them know *Hey there's an issue, put it on your list*
     
  17. MalagAste

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    They don't care.... not a one of them uses the EC anyway... it's VERY close to 1/2 and 1/2 using EC vs CC....

    What is happening is that ENORMOUS LAG coming from opening a public corpse... for a EC it IS game breaking. I can no longer attend an event and "dumpster dive" after the corpse goes public to get good drops or to get those items the EM's are looking for on corpses because if it don't drop in my drop pile by the time I get a public corpse to open, if it hasn't crashed my client" anyone in the CC has looted everything good... I'll still be waiting for it to load 2 minutes later because the mere clicking of a public corpse will grind the client to a halt.

    You were just looking at gift box color ids..... not actually trying to play the game.. Try sorting your chests and such and cleaning out your bank boxes or something when every single blasted time you open up a chest it goes BEHIND what you have on your screen costing you precious time ...... making a 2 min task a 4 min task...

    Trust me these issues are not "triffle" or "Trivial" They are game breaking for some of us. We are now at a massive disadvantage over CC users.

    And while Pinco has fixed some of the issues the LAG issue resulting from opening a corpse is NOT something Pinco can fix..... and it MUST be addressed.
     
  18. Larisa

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    You know what's funny...I can no longer attend an event and *dumpster dive* either in the CC...and a lot of my friends who also play the CC say the exact same thing.

    Every event I go to, my game totally freezes about a second before the boss dies..and then I die...and by the time the lag goes away and I can rez and find my corpse everything is gone.

    This is not just an EC issue...and I don't just look at gift boxes....I feel that if I am going to make a statement or express my opinion on something I have to have a working knowledge of it so yes, I do play the EC on occasion...I have gone and done the exact same things I do in the CC every day...I cannot play in the EC for many reasons, and as this is not a discussion about the EC vs. the CC I will leave it at that.

    I also will not quit the game if they ever got rid of the CC even though I am a strictly CC user...I love the game...regardless of how I feel about one client or the other, it's the GAME I love.

    So while I totally understand the lag being a HUGE issue..it really has very little to do with this container thing...I have ALWAYS had very bad lag at boss fights/events in the CC due to the high volume of items being created at one time plus the amount of people there and many other CC users have as well.

    So saying the container thing is a HUGE MUST FIX OMG RIGHT NOW is, to me, not as accurate is saying the LAG issue needs to be addressed, and that could be caused by any number of things.

    Again this is just my opinion but I do have the same issues you do in the CC.
     
  19. Gidge

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    I just recently had to do a fresh install of the EC client. I had pinco's but removed it. My containers do the offset thing. I tried to look at my EC files to see if I could tell what is causing it and I have no clue because there doesn't seem to be a config file. *blinks*
     
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    I haven't had any pack opening issues :)
     
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    There is a big difference: This is an issue they can actual fix. Duping, scripting and hacking are issues they clearly can't, as they've been around for years.
     
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    Im not sure about "clearly cant". Maybe "clearly have no interest in"
     
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    Considering the Devs themselves have said that doing away with checks and making changes to the gold structure is a high priority for them, I'd imagine that duping gold is something they have interest in. Didn't Mesanna herself knock down a bunch of houses from a well known cheater?

    Again, it's doubtful they have the power to do anything about it because of the game's old coding - or maybe just haven't figured it out quite yet.
     
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    Try opening 5 or 6 containers and leave them open on the screen so you can switch stuff between them, you'll soon understand the word HUGE as in huge awful bad enough to be gamestopping lag. Or be looting stuff or trying to with other monsters breathing down your neck and the danged corpses are opening on top of each other and you're trying to figure out which one you need while the bugger is standing on you with one foot.
     
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    I'm actually doing that right now lol, re-doing my house and figured I'd try it in the EC...though I hate the way things stack up in one corner once I switch back to the CC...and actually my containers are opening just fine...every one opens on top of the one previously opened...I currently have 12 containers open and I notice very slight lag when I try to move...upon moving far enough away for them all to close the slight lag goes away.

    I seem to remember someone posting somewhere about that queasy feeling you get when you run...how do you get rid of that? I have a house in luna and just running from my house to the bank makes me quite nauseous :/

    So anyway, I also noticed that only certain containers go behind others. Chests, boxes and backpacks open normally, the round bags seem to be glitchy and open behind the last container opened, though I still do not get extreme lag when several containers are open.

    I do notice a bit more lag when I hunt with my pets, but again nothing too serious. I haven't done anything major in the EC due to the nauseous feeling I get when I move, the most I've done is hunt the WW's down in Ice and I always have several corpses open there because of all the annoying little spawn but it's no laggier for me in the EC then in the CC...I don't know maybe it's just me and I'm lucky to not have the lag that you are all speaking about :/
     
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    The bug seems to be happening with every container now.
     
  28. Larisa

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    No I mean I was on the EC as I was posting so..at least for me..it's only happening with the round bags. I have every style of gift box, tried every style and named containers...like anniversary boxes/bags and it's only the round style bags that seem to be doing it for me, not sure about anyone else.
     
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    Make sure to turn off shadows and footsteps Larisa.