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This is ridiculous

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Perma Fried, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. Perma Fried

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    Can someone tell me how to run a trace route to Pacific?

    The lag on this game is getting to be intolerable. And yes I'm on Comcast and no I don't care whether it's EA, Comcast or someone else's fault. I've only been back for 3 weeks and I'm seriously considering moving to something else because I don't miss the days of playing on a 56k.
     
  2. Uriah Heep

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    Pretty much the same here, for a few days. Just like dialup...constant disconnects, followed by some synchronization message usually, meaning you cant just log back in real quick, you have to completely close the client down. Only UO, its not the whole internet thing, cause icq and IE and Pandora never stop working, the kids watching netflix never stops, online console gaming keeps going...
    weird
     
  3. Perma Fried

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    Here's what I see when logging in. I used to be around 60-80ms with no packet loss.

    I'm not paying for this crap. EA's fault or not, it's easier to just quit and play something else.

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Haddy G

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    I started using this tool WinMTR. If you post the results on the forum be sure and block out your IP. See below for my results, guess I wont be playing tonight.

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    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                              READYSHARE -    0 |   11 |   11 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
    |                              XXXXXXXXX -    0 |   11 |   11 |   23 |   28 |   39 |   30 |
    |te-7-2-ur01.charleston.sc.chrlstn.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |    8 |   10 |   14 |    9 |
    |te-9-3-ar01.charleston.sc.chrlstn.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   10 |   13 |   14 |   14 |
    |ml-1-ar01.savannah.ga.savannah.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |    9 |   13 |   16 |   10 |
    |te-0-3-0-10-ar02.southside.fl.jacksvil.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   17 |   23 |   31 |   20 |
    |te-1-2-0-5-cr01.miami.fl.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   24 |   29 |   40 |   28 |
    |pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   33 |   37 |   40 |   40 |
    |pos-4-11-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   42 |   44 |   48 |   46 |
    |pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   52 |   54 |   57 |   55 |
    |pos-1-5-0-0-pe01.111eighthave.ny.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   48 |   54 |   57 |   55 |
    |   Vlan550.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   54 |   58 |   67 |   57 |
    |               0.ae20.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  192 |  201 |  248 |  199 |
    |                0.ae2.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  189 |  203 |  247 |  200 |
    |           0.so-5-0-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  241 |  251 |  257 |  251 |
    |         so-0-0-0.ur2.lax11.web.wcom.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |  244 |  252 |  258 |  256 |
    |                           208.254.48.14 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  247 |  254 |  260 |  253 |
    |                           65.245.224.33 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  246 |  254 |  259 |  252 |
    |                           65.216.123.33 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  246 |  253 |  259 |  255 |
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    Added pic.
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  5. Hi my name is

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    This type of lag has been going on for me and guildmates for 2-3 months. I've made 2 threads about it never got a response. Right now I'm pinging 300 to a shard i should be pinging 30 to due to ALTER.NET. Something needs to be done...
     
  6. CovenantX

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    uh oh, the 8pm-10pm Est* lag issue seems to have spread to an earlier time, definitely seems worse now...

    This Most Definitely Needs To Be Fixed ! ! ! ! ! !
     
  7. HD2300

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    http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/259836-server-lag-part.html#post2079246
     
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    Nice to know that I don't have any game time to look forward to when I get home tonight. On the bright side mine has been pretty stable in that I am constantly pinging 187 to pacific.
     
  9. Perma Fried

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    I'm no networking guru, but I recognize the ALTERNET crap from other threads.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Taylor

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    I hope Pac isn't stricken by the illness that seems to have attacked Atlantic. :<
     
  11. Ezekiel Zane

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    So far it seems isolated to Atlantic. I've been on Pac all day today and daily all this past two weeks. No crashes just the usual extreme lagginess during primetime. I try to get all my game time in before 6pm.
     
  12. Storm

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    note the 548 ms and the 100% packet loss to LS

    xe-3-0-0-0-ar03.beaverton.or.bver68.85.243.137 4 15ms 15ms 0% 11 / 11 11ms / 41ms
    pos-3-2-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ib68.86.91.245 5 34ms 35ms 0% 11 / 11 32ms / 42ms
    pos-1-8-0-0-cr01.losangeles.ca.ib68.86.87.242 6 49ms 41ms 0% 11 / 11 38ms / 49ms
    pos-0-8-0-0-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.68.86.88.254 7 65ms 63ms 0% 11 / 11 61ms / 66ms
    pos-0-9-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone68.86.87.234 8 81ms 84ms 0% 11 / 11 79ms / 99ms
    pos-4-2-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone68.86.87.65 9 95ms 95ms 0% 11 / 11 94ms / 100ms
    pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone68.86.87.202 10 98ms 92ms 0% 11 / 11 89ms / 98ms
    pos-1-4-0-0-pe01.111eighthave.ny.68.86.86.194 11 92ms 90ms 0% 10 / 10 89ms / 93ms
    Vlan578.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453209.58.26.117 12 108ms 106ms 0% 10 / 10 99ms / 113ms
    Vlan590.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453209.58.26.94 13 98ms 105ms 0% 10 / 10 95ms / 155ms
    0.ae3.XT1.NYC4.ALTER.NET 152.63.16.182 14 166ms 166ms 0% 10 / 10 164ms / 173ms
    0.ge-2-1-0.XT1.LAX7.ALTER.NET 152.63.1.209 15 523ms 516ms 0% 10 / 10 478ms / 544ms
    so-0-0-0.ur1.lax11.web.wcom.net 208.222.8.22 16 167ms 172ms 0% 10 / 10 167ms / 180ms
    * Unknown Host * 208.254.48.26 17 275ms 282ms 0% 10 / 10 264ms / 290ms
    * Unknown Host * 65.245.224.33 18 182ms 100% 0 / 10
    * Unknown Host * 65.216.123.33 19 180ms 178ms 0% 10 / 10 175ms / 182ms
     
  13. Widow Maker

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    US East Coast Cluster [63.117.27.0/24]
    Location: somewhere in Virginia, US

    63.117.27.129 TC1
    63.117.27.136 Atlantic
    63.117.27.137 Lake Superior
    63.117.27.138 Chesapeake
    63.117.27.139 Great Lakes
    63.117.27.140 Legends
    63.117.27.141 Catskills
    63.117.27.142 Siege Perilious


    US West Coast Cluster [65.216.123.0/24]
    Location: Los Angeles, US

    65.216.123.32 Origin
    65.216.123.33 Pacific
    65.216.123.34 Baja
    65.216.123.35 Sonoma
    65.216.123.36 Lake Austin
    65.216.123.37 Napa Valley
     
  14. Storm

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    alter.net is owned by MCI/verizon
     
  15. HD2300

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    Could it be that where you are getting the 100% packet loss, is the place where the problem is? Is this at the point where internet traffic enters EA's network?
     
  16. Lady Laurel

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    If you do an internet search you can see that Alter.net has been having the same issues off and on for the past couple years at least. And it seems that it usually goes on for months at a time. I found posts from other games and other types of sites that all ask about latency and packet loss from Alter.net. It has been reported to them, but I am not sure if they care, and I don't really know if there is anything else that can be done other than complaining to Alter.net/MCI/Verizon.
     
  17. Haddy G

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    Yep unplayable, 440 ping, just sad. I am so glad LOTRO does not have this issue.

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    |                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
    |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
    |                              READYSHARE -    0 |   11 |   11 |    1 |    1 |    5 |    1 |
    |                              XXXXXXXXX -    0 |   11 |   11 |   13 |  109 |  396 |   27 |
    |te-7-2-ur01.charleston.sc.chrlstn.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   11 |   13 |   17 |   14 |
    |te-9-3-ar01.charleston.sc.chrlstn.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   10 |   13 |   16 |   15 |
    |ml-1-ar01.savannah.ga.savannah.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   12 |   16 |   20 |   18 |
    |te-0-3-0-10-ar02.southside.fl.jacksvil.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   19 |   25 |   31 |   29 |
    |te-1-2-0-5-cr01.miami.fl.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   26 |   30 |   35 |   27 |
    |pos-1-15-0-0-cr01.atlanta.ga.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   36 |   39 |   42 |   40 |
    |pos-4-11-0-0-cr01.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   46 |   47 |   49 |   46 |
    |pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   54 |   56 |   59 |   54 |
    |pos-1-5-0-0-pe01.111eighthave.ny.ibone.comcast.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   51 |   53 |   56 |   56 |
    |   Vlan550.icore1.NTO-NewYork.as6453.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |   52 |   58 |   69 |   57 |
    |               0.ae20.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  352 |  369 |  387 |  352 |
    |                0.ae2.XT2.NYC4.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  354 |  369 |  395 |  354 |
    |           0.so-5-0-0.XT2.LAX7.ALTER.NET -    0 |   11 |   11 |  432 |  442 |  456 |  432 |
    |         so-0-0-0.ur2.lax11.web.wcom.net -    0 |   11 |   11 |  429 |  442 |  460 |  431 |
    |                           208.254.48.14 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  428 |  442 |  463 |  428 |
    |                           65.245.224.33 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  428 |  442 |  459 |  428 |
    |                           65.216.123.33 -    0 |   11 |   11 |  430 |  442 |  460 |  430 |
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       WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider
     
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    same on chessy with comcast. so bad i cant play
     
  19. Ezekiel Zane

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    I'm calling CenturyLink tomorrow, Comcast isn't listening.

    CenturyLink has 12Mb/s service for $19.99/month.
     
  20. Miss Smoocher

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    so is it true they went with a new crapy cheap proxy server and we are paying for this?
     
  21. Goodmann

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    This is not the ISP provider's fault. I can play numerous other online games and not have a trace of lag. So I pay for this 14 year old game and cant even play over 3/4 of the day? This is what i'm looking at 3/4 of the day for the last 3 months+. Not to mention after 100's of players have reported this we can't even get an official statement from UO??
     

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    Funny how nobody official has made ANY comment about this. Silence to me means they don't give a !@#$
     
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    This * infinity + 1. Been feeling the same way over the past 3 months and there's nothing we can do about it because EA doesn't give a **** about UO.
     
  24. Can't get below 500ms on pacific. I am in northern colorado. I thought it was comcast as well... But it's not. So much for the event tonight. Stupid connection, has been the last few months for me too.
     
  25. Vyal

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    Yup, for months & months...
    I have watched event after event pass by and there was just no way I could be involved.
    The worst was the mage duels EM event.
    Can anyone guess what it's like trying to even play a mage now a days let alone duel?
    It goes like this, curse wait 5 seconds like your in protection but worse... Then you see words of power then you try to cast a spell but your still casting curse.

    Long story short I can't pvp anymore because of the lag. What's UO without the pvp?!!?!?!?!:wall::wall::wall:
     
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    i would give him the benefit of the doubt....just because it's been going on for three months doesnt mean HE has dealt with it for that long....It has been hitting different people at different time periods.

    Actually I am glad a MOD is on here stating they are being affected. I unsubcrbed last month because i couldnt play, tweeted the Producer....NOTHING.

    I said it before: UO/EA say this is out of their control, but PR is not....and so far they suck at it over this issue
     
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    It's not only comcast, but the majority of people posting here on stratics seem to have comcast as their current ISP.

    Me, and two friends play UO quite often almost every day, except of course when its laggy, as the main thing we enjoy in UO is pretty much ONLY PVP, lag is the game-breaker for us and many others that play UO for its Pvp...

    however 1/3 of us is Not using Comcast or Verizon, and still suffers from the same lag issue with a different cable company, though the problem still seems to be once it reaches Alter.net... its completely unplayable, regardless who is at fault It needs to be FIXED ASAP

    Though this problem has occurred in the past, it's never lasted this long and was usually fixed within a week, its been going on 2-3+ months during prime time on most eastern shards, as of today it seems to have gotten worse and for a longer period of time.

    I noticed it being laggy as !@#$ since 5pm Est, and is still at 9:40 Est too laggy to do almost ANYTHING in UO (it took me 10 minutes of stutter-stepping from umbra bank to umbra smith and back to tailor to collect BODs, so i could log off) It's rediculous that we have to deal with this #$!% at all, and considering it's affecting more than a handful of people, something like this should have been dealt with by now.
     
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    I live on the east coast and havn't lagged in game for years as I recall, tonight is unreal.......... cannot play..... :(

    only UO lags.... everything else seems to be doing fine.
     
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    [youtube]zz6BaNiPkgY[/youtube]​


    *snickers*
     
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    So bummed by the lack of any resolution to this ongoing issue. Tonight's ping to Napa ranges from 590's to 615ms with up to 67% packet loss.
     
  31. Vyal

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    lol, im still quiting EA shards but lol..
     
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    this is horrible... 300-600ms and huge packet loss to east coast shards. time warner here.
     
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    I can understand why some of you would tolerate this in hopes that it might get fixed some day, but seeing as how I just reactivated and haven't even moved most of my stuff out of my bankboxes, I'm done.

    Account deactivated.
     
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    just happened for me out of the blue a few hours ago
     
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    I have absolutely no intention of quitting UO... but this lag is horrendous and needs to be fixed...

    The lag hurts more than most bugs!
     
  36. Storm

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    EA is not even in the same state as where the bottle neck is happening, its happening near Kansas City, and because of the way internet traffic is routed you could be in Florida and still get routed through this area!

    there are some visual trace route programs out there that will show you this if you want to look for them!

    Could ea be having server problems sure! but everyone of the traceroutes I have seen posted are all the same area!!

    And just because you can play other games just fine means nothing because those servers are located in different areas

    I am having the same problem as most here! And if it was EA I would have no problem blaming them ...But its not at least for me and some of the others here!
     
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    Storm the difference is we as users call our ISP and they don't care. EA as a large entity needs to put pressure on their provider. The only blame that lies with EA at this point is their lack of concern or lack of effort to get involved from their end.
     
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    I seem to be getting routed the same way as everyone else, and as soon as it hits *.NYC4.ALTER.NET it immediately jumps from ~40ms to ~400ms.
     
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    I agree that this isn't specifically an EA/Mythic issue. I have ran about a dozen trace routes and it's always the same. The 'lag spike' happens two hops before it gets to the UO servers.
     
  40. Ezekiel Zane

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    Alter.net router I have a problem with is in LA. I live in the NW.
     
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    Exactly, regardless who is to blame, UO is losing people because of this, and we are getting our time wasted waiting for it to be dealt with.
     
  42. Kylie Kinslayer

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    ????

    How do you know EA is not doing that very thing? I mean if the paying customers call and the ISP could care less, do you think EA would get ANY different treatment? In todays {lack} of customer service world EA probably gets the same response from them they would from the USPS, "we will get it there when it gets there".
     
  43. Storm

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    I agree silent they probably have already done this! My feeling is they did not get a answer we are going to like and will get blamed for nothing being done either way! Kind of like now!

    But I agree they should at least comment on it either way as it does effect their players even if they cant do anything about it!
     
  44. Kylie Kinslayer

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    And all those :pirate: out there obtaining all their illegal movies, songs and porn. Can't forget them a-holes.
     
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    Yes large companies like EA have something called an SLA. We as individual customers of an ISP have very little influence over outages such as this since 99.9% of everything else on the internet is accessible. All I'm saying is again, the lack of communication from EA is going to be their downfall. A message or even a tweet saying "guys we are aware of the issues and are doing everything within our power to resolve it." that would go a long way.
     
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    So we've eliminated all other possibilities and tracked it to Alter.net.

    My trace routes from Colorado to Catskills show the same bottleneck as well.

    So for us older guys can someone explain exactly what alter.net is?

    Someone mentioned them being owned by Verizon.. so who would we call or email?
     
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    ... You get what you pay for.
     
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    I can hardly move on Atlantic and it takes a second or 2 before an action like opening a rune book actually happens--I usually don't have too many problems with lag, but this is bad. Feels worse than old dialup!
     
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    You seem to really enjoy making this statement.

    01-17-2012, 02:44 AM EST:
     
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    If they are paying $200,000/yr for a high service level connection then that's $200,000/yr of pressure they can exert to get the problem fixed. If they are paying $5,000/yr for a crappy connection, then there isnt much in terms of pressure that they can exert.