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This Old Dog Learned A New Trick

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Val'lyn De'ana, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. Val'lyn De'ana

    Val'lyn De'ana Seasoned Veteran

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    So as some of you know, I have come back to UO after a very long break. Since my return I learned that my old profession (thieving) has changed to the point of being damn near unplayable anymore.

    I know a lot of old UOers, they have found the game not being like it was when they used to play and let their accounts close shortly after re-opening them. I considered it, but I thought, why not try something else.

    So I did.

    I have started building up my taming and some crafting skills. Guess what?

    Love 'em and won't be shutting down any time soon.

    So (even the long time UOers) what part of the game have you leaned to enjoy that you hadn't played in a previous UO life?

    Tell me, tell me :)

    -Val'lyn
     
  2. belkins1

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    Playing a thief is pretty boring nowadays only time i get on my thief is to check rare spawns in dungeons.. which some of those items can sell for a pretty good penny...

    I have played uo off and on since 98'.. and have pretty much every template but I made a thrower/bushido gargoyle recently and really like playing him... does alot of damage with armor ignore and im able to solo alot of big bosses with him. My other fav is my disco / tamer.
     
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  3. It Lives

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    Two of my favorite builds! I got bored of my tamer builds after about 6 years and have been actively learning the sampire builds and having a blast!

    Next will be a beggar for Halloween stuff and some other skills i have passed on playing... t-hunter, fishing.
     
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  4. MalagAste

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    Oh I have 3 GM Beggars.... I love it at Halloween!

    I enjoy most every aspect of UO. Problem I have is playing alone. I don't like soloing UO. I want people to play with and I WON'T play on Atl. My problem is I work nights.... like 3rd shift. So when I get on UO most of my friends are almost ready to go to bed. I can't play really on the Asian shards I don't understand the language and there seems to be next to no one on Oceana or Europa/Drach when I am on there either. And Oceana has a VERY Bad lag. So I play UO less and less all the time.
     
  5. The Predator

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    I'm sorry - but thieves are far from dead - you need to learn how to adapt.
     
  6. azmodanb

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    They need to implement stealing again. And with things being insured just make items stealable but if the item is insured make a cursed check spawn in the thieves bag equal to cost of insurance.

    Why cursed? So the person you steal from can attempt to kill you and get his money back
     
  7. Alfray

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    For the first ten years that I played UO, I was strictly into PvP.

    Now, after a long, long break, I find myself loving T-Hunting. Strange!
     
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  8. Flutter

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    Stealing, pvp style. I inherited an account with a pvp thief and that's all she wrote. I'd rather steal than anything else honestly. (does that make me a bad person? lol)
    Don't knock it till you try it!~
    :spider:
     
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  9. Poo

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    fishing.

    i never thought id say that but fishing in UO.
    ive always had GM fishing but a couple months ago i walked into a house on a Asian shard and the fella had the walls filled up with these mounted fish that ive never seen before!
    there was lava fish this and deep water fish that and all mounted up on the walls!
    it was pixel heaven!

    since then i picked up a 120 fishing scroll and im gonna ear mark some time to go out and try to catch all of these strange and wonderful new fish that i didnt even know had entered the game.
     
  10. Philly

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    I have recently made a Sampire and T hunter to compliment each other. I Love it!
     
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  11. Val'lyn De'ana

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    Please understand I do know that thieving may not be dead but it has been drastically changed. Sure there is adaptation to these changes, but it certainly isn't the skill it used to be.

    With that said, let's hear what others have started doing with other skill and rule set changes they've seen over the years.

    -Val'lyn
     
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  12. Max Blackoak

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    Maybe give Siege a try... there are quite some European players and some other people who work night shifts...
     
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  13. MalagAste

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    I already play on Siege ...... no ...... no one is really around..... at least not until I want to go to bed. Often it's just 100% everyone hidden there anyway. I belong to a large alliance there and I can say that most times nothing is happening. That's often I think why every time someone mentions anything everyone on Siege says to go there. Because even though we can have a house there and everything no one is there. I refuse to play on Atl... but I'm bored playing solo all the time.

    Seems to me I miss a lot of the RPPvP and RP community stuff we used to do back when there were more than a handful of RPers around. Problem is now that many folk left RP because there were some folk in RP who thought that anyone else's RP sucked and only they could RP "right" and it drove a bunch of folk away.... there was tons of Drama over the years regarding what you could and could not RP. I often find it to be silly and strange but... honestly if you follow the Metafiction of the game you are doing just fine. I mean you can't declare yourself King of Britain and expect anyone to give you that sort of thing without treating your character like either a Traitor to the crown or a Nut case. You just can't.... if you want to RP yourself as the "Queen of the Cows" then expect people to think you completely mad...... it's RP but don't expect folk to take you seriously.... However if you want to call yourself a merchant or miner of Minoc then by all means..... but act the part.

    But gone are the epic battles between good and evil.... certainly there are a few who play Evil these days but seems to me either it's few and far between or on some shards not very well balanced.... over the years I've found it just loses a lot of "fun factor" when one side or another does nothing but take a beating..... balance does wonders for the psyche.

    A bunch of folk don't seem to treat the EM events as "RP" and avoid them ...... they don't much care for the dying all the time... they don't like the BS that goes on at the EM events... they don't like that it can be EXTREMELY hard to follow what's going on with all the insanity about and folk disrupting things... but more than anything they don't like that sometimes you can't RP back with the EM's. Seems to me that in the early days of the EM program EM's "embraced" the RP community and included much of it into their events even going so far as to join some of the RP events and such and were supportive of things... however that seems to have died and anymore going to many of the events does nothing much more than further the metafiction of the game at a snails crawl... many of the events that supposedly are leading up to something seem to take a very long time and often folk lose interest in the story... As well since there is little to no interaction anymore from the EM's with the RP community going to the Governors meetings is like watching paint dry... Or like watching an eternal game of golf with only ONE golfer... Boring..... they say the same script over and over... they don't hardly interact.... I mean I can say that I'm plotting to kill everyone in Jhelom and they would be like "Well that's nice you are expanding.".... but don't act appropriately to what the King should say which would be that doing that would be unacceptable and against the crown. ... Instead it's like Oh....that's nice. But do nothing.

    UO has forgotten how to be a community in it's hunt for stuff and gold and greed. Now it's all about stuff and not about community. You can't really take a guild on a hunt anymore since 99% of things are soloable taking a guild is boring... especially for those that don't want anything to do with Fel... Sure we could go do a champ spawn... and get all killed by people who hack and cheat and PvP 99% of their time... But that wouldn't be any challenge for them and it certainly wouldn't be fun for anyone getting killed and rezkilled and killed some more... Not fun. If we wanted that sort of PvP without meaning we'd be doing it. There is NO reason to go hunting reds. There is no need to band together and do anything at all. And don't give me that Siege crap because honestly NO ONE There does anything much either. And again if I wanted mindless PvP I'd be doing it.

    I miss having a reason to log in basically... I mean I give a darn about doing most things it's such a grind. I've now done with fishing... since the quests obviously are lame and the bait is a joke. I'm done with doing the trade quests... much of the rewards are not that great. I got a few signs and books but I can only do so many quests and then I'm bored. Most the dungeons are a grind and for many players I have suits .... I have finished many skills and such... without something going on to keep my interest like ToT or some invasion or something well... I'm bored. I don't play to get stuff to sell on a vendor on Atl.... I don't play to generate more crap to cram into my already over crowded houses... I need something to do.
     
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    Who is your Siege toon MalagAste ? just curious
     
  15. MalagAste

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    Seeing as I have multiple accounts I have many. Myhrea is my Tamer... she's the one I use predominately.
     
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    I don't recognize the name, so you must be logging in at odd hours ? You mentioned 3rd shift, so maybe that's why. There are lots of players on Siege at any given time,but keep in mind, quite a few of us stay out of gen chat unless there's a worthwhile topic of conversation :)
     
  17. MalagAste

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    I listen in Gen chat but I'm not going to be advertising what I'm doing or where I'm going.... that's like suicidal....
     
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  18. Val'lyn De'ana

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    LOL, I am the same way. You have to be careful telling general chat on Siege where and what you are doing. It's a good way to end up with various types of (un)wanted company :)

    -Val'lyn
     
  19. FrejaSP

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    We sure could need a few more EU players

    To me, RP is to live in UO and not just play the game, you have to be your char in game.
    Also remember it take two to RP and one have to start. Maybe you should try something new, find a few of your friends and make a new guild and be active as a RP'er and try to make others RP.

    You can even make a crazy char and just stay in role all the time, babble ingame and in gen chat and see what do happen.

    Fix the balance, Siege only have max 5 evil on at same time in EU time and they rarely run together. Try put up some RP, if you play the good side, like this 2 ladies I meet several years ago. Sure it is hard to RP if first attacked, but if you are known as a RP'er, the PK may try too.

    Here is one of my old stories. Don't tell me, this ladies did not have fun.

    Was that Myrkuls work?

    Freja was riding at an old road, she know very well, when she saw two ladies, one was young, the other could had been her mother.
    They both had an axe and was out cutting woods. They was in dress and hats and did not look like they belong to the forest. They looked very innocent and Freja could get close to them without they reacted like Mortals use to do. They just said Hello, when they saw Freja.
    Freja looked at them, and was thinking, that she wanted to please Myrkul with this two lady souls.

    Freja like to tell them why she attack, so she said: 'Prepare to die foolish mortal. My master Myrkul requires your soul.' and attacked one of them named Lovis. It did not look like Lovis wanted to give up her soul and she jumped on her horse, run to town.
    Freja then attack the other woman, the young one named Aliena. This lady did not run but tryed to fight, she died fast.
    She did not have much with her and Freja raised her again and told her: 'Thank you for adding your puny mortal soul to Myrkul's greatness'



    She mumbled something, not easy to understand, then she asked:'who is myrkul?'
    Befor Freja could say more as 'My Master and God', Lovis was back and attacked Freja.
    Freja and Lovis took a race more to town, Lovis did not know, that Freja know this forest very well and know how close she could go to town without get in trouble with the guards.

    Freja went back to Aliena.
    Aliena was still asking quistions: Aha and what is your god saying to kill ladies?
    Freja said, Lady souls pleased Myrkul very well.
    Freja told: My masters is undead lords. I'm only a slave yet serving my lords and their God Myrkul.

    This lady was careless, she was rumbling around in her items, then she said: Wow, a necklace, look! and she smiled to Freja.
    Now, i am a rich lady or not? she said.
    She again looked at Freja and said: can i ask you something, but, you must say the truth.

    Ok ask Freja said.
    Why are all the evils killing everyone, what do they want?
    Freja did not have the answar for this, she could only try to explain, why she was killing, and even that made her trouble, she only knew, she had to kill to harvest souls to Myrkul, and she enjoyed it.

    Lovis is back again, Freja attack her and once more Freja lose the race to town.
    Lovis keep coming back, this time yelling 'go ahead talk to Aliena and Don't shoot me, I'm a NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB'
    Freja did not know what a noob was, Freja attacked again.

    Aliena started yelling, Stop, Lovis is my aunt, please not kill old ladies.
    Freja stopped, did not follow the old lady to town this time.
    Lovis was back again, yelled: TALK, do not KILL me.

    A evil looking mortal show up, there was writing GRANDOR: [Apache Warlard, Hun] on his clothes.
    Corp Por - Energy Bolt, GRANDOR said, then he laugh and run of with arrows hitting him his back.

    Aliena keep asking: Tell me, what have i do with the evils in this land.
    Of all the evils, who have killing me, no one has taken my stuff, why?

    Bloodthirsty Freja said.

    Freja looked at Lovis: I still need your soul for Myrkul, she said.
    Take it if you want, Lovis said.
    Freja said, she would let Lovis keep her sould to next time.

    Lovis dropped all her items in the hands of Aliena and said: Ready to be killed.
    Aliena started to beg: Kill her please now, I have all her stuff, please kill her.
    Freja was wondering, what happing to this ladies and said no not today.

    Next time is early enough, Lovis said and smiled.
    My stuff please I am freezing to death otherwise, Lovis said with a shivery voice.
    Aliena, my stuff please, she demended.

    Aliena smiled evil, but did not give the stuff back.
    Lovis attacked Aliena without having a weapen.
    Let kill, Aliena said and armed her axe.

    Freja dropped an axe for Lovis feeds and the older lady turned out to be the strongest or the best to swing an axe, and Aliena died again.

    Haha Lovis said, and picked up her items from Aliena's body.
    Freja shake her head and leave the ladies after she raised Aliena again.

    Freja don't understand what made this two ladies bloodthirsty, could it be Myrkul?

    Freja, Slave of Myrkul, [UDL
     
  20. MalagAste

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    That's an very nice story Freja. Though I'm not much of a fighter these days. I used to... but anymore I'm going to say the item game has taken most the fun out of it.
     
  21. FrejaSP

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    I sucks at fighting too and my RL age do not help, I may survive, but I rarely success killing someone who know how to fight
     
  22. MalagAste

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    I know the older I get the slower my reactions are and I'm slowly getting arthritis and carpal tunnel... making PvP a younger persons game. My reactions are slowing.
     
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    A good bow do help :p
     
  24. MalagAste

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    Only if you live long enough to use it... and don't lose it.
     
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    You can talk in Siege GC and not give away where you are or what you're doing . ;-)
     
  26. MalagAste

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    Yes but that's pretty much like playing a single player game and talking in ICQ or something. ... still boring.
     
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    If boring, then tell where you are going too :devil:
     
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    I know where she is and see her on siege but I am not telling you Queen of Outlaws, your week of service to Virtue is almost over :)
     
  29. MalagAste

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    Bel'la Dos my friend. You may defend the house of Hla'ate anytime.
     
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    Ok, I give up.
     
  31. MalagAste

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    It's ok.. I think a big part of my problem is that I miss my friend Rascal who died almost a year ago. He kinda had to quit playing almost 2 years ago... but for 8 or 9 years he and I would be on every afternoon and evening chatting in Vent.... Fishing, T-Hunting.... just building characters... talking laughing and enjoying UO together. It's a hole that hasn't been filled and I just miss him terribly. I log in... I get in vent.... and it's rather hit and miss if there is anyone in there... but I miss his raspy southern accent. I even miss him complaining about the wife... or as he put it "the warden". Telling him what he could and couldn't eat or drink.

    He was a dear friend and since he's been gone I just feel... alone.