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Throwing----What the heck???

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Imperium, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. Imperium

    Imperium Adventurer

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    120 Throwing
    90 Tactics
    45 HCI
    60 SSI

    Missed 12 times in a row against a trammel gargoyle.
    Missed 11 times in a row against a brown bear.
    Took me over 2 mins to kill a mudpie in shame just standing in one place with him beating on me.
    NO exaggeration.
    >.>

    What am i missing, I miss like crazy, is throwing broken again?
     
  2. Imperium

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    I tried different weapons. I tried removing some ssi.

    I cant hit anything... i swing and miss about 95% of the time against goats and chickens.

    Again, i have 120 throwing skill, 90 tactics, 60 ssi, 100 di

    Using a cyclone imbued, not mage weapon.
     
  3. azmodanb

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    makes me wanna make one now... lol
     
  4. Petra Fyde

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    I don't have a thrower, but until one logs in with better advice, my only thought is 'distance to target'?
     
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  5. Aurelius

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    First thought?

    "Took me over 2 mins to kill a mudpie in shame just standing in one place with him beating on me."

    From the Stratics page on throwing, http://uo2.stratics.com/skill-guides/skills-and-professions/throwing

    "Close Quarters Combat: Being too close to a target would normally cause ineffective throws. However, Swordsmanship skill can compensate for this, with Legendary skill even giving a slight bonus."

    You're meant to be at a distance, not hand to hand. Does keeping a few steps away change your hit rate?
     
  6. Drowy

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    Do you wear a shield?
     
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  7. Goldberg-Chessy

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    Could be a brand new 'distance to target' bug but I have been pvping on my Throwers lately with no issues so seems a bit odd
     
  8. Merus

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    This?

    Wearing a shield without parry drops your hit chance big time.
     
  9. Obsidian

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    Do you have 120 throwing on the char? I did something similar once when I temporarily removed throwing and put on 120 imbuing. I went out hunting and was puzzled for a min why my guy suddenly sucked. It was operator error on my part.
     
  10. PwnySlaystation

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    I noticed after they removed the 50HCI cap from gargs that my thrower missed so much i stopped playing it and made it human archer again. Im sure throwing is broken.
     
  11. DJAd

    DJAd Stratics Legend
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    Are you sure you were holding a weapon? lol
     
  12. Poo

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    i just logged in and went out and checked my thrower.
    120 throwing with 45HCI, 115 tactics and 115 swords.
    didnt miss once.
    killed 20 random things out in the forest (including healers)
    put on a shield and missed 5 throws in a row against a Tern, hahaha, then went against a wold with a shield and missed 5 in a row.
    took off the shield and back to no missing again.
    didnt seem to be any difference in distance other then a increase in damage when i was far enough away to be in the sweet spot.

    so if i had to guess you maybe had a shield on???

    oh, and i didnt run con weapon or lightning strike or devine or anything, just straight throwing.
     
  13. Mervyn

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    Doesn't the accuracy/damage ratio depend on where you stand? Perhaps you're too close
     
  14. Poo

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    if you are too close to your target you get a 12% reduction in HCI but no reduction in damage dealt out. if you are too far away you dont loose HCI but you do take a reduction in damage (40+) if you have the swordsmanship you do not get penalized for being close to your target, which i think they actually dont use anymore but rather there is something about your skill and dex combined lessen the 12% HCI penalty.

    IF you have a shield on and you dont have parry then your chance to hit your target is rock bottom, if you have parry then your ok to have a shield on.

    long story short.
    shield = bad
    toe to toe = bad
     
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    Ugg, throwing is still making my head hurt too much.
     
  16. Bleak

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    Now I've got to know if Imperium had a shield equipped - tell us!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  18. RockoNV

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    If you do not have parry and use a shield, you will suffer defense and hit chance penalties.
     
  19. weins201

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    lol stopped replying he was probably standing on top of target with a shield in his hand
     
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    I think I've some work to do.
     
  21. Arcades

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    Does any Melee skill work or does it have to be Swords??
     
  22. Smoot

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    i tried throwing with 120 parry with a shield and seemed like i missed alot more than usual, too much for any use of a shield to be viable. i wish there were hard numbers somewhere. uo guide is very vague. like even if the lost hci from shield use can be made up for with overcapped hci.
     
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  23. mspossi

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    Hello!
    I stopped to play whit a throwing, after the chance of HCI and DCI of the 50% to 45%, may seem little, but the changed completely the essence of the gargoyle race.
    Who has a gargoyles know what I'm saying; and I had 7... thy to fight a throw gun, in a confrontation pvp, or a legendary boss; after the change. of course if you garg, have others weapons ( the normal weapon),; and think that I'll have a garg with a normal weapons, if I can have humans doing it better?
    Well to back to topic:
    Is almost impossible to hit with a throw gun, equipped with a one shield; ...and as to scope of the throw weapon; is the same effect when you use the bow and arrow very closed to the target:
    Will always hits... however the damage is very less.
    I'm not the most knowleadgeable on the gargoyles...but like i said... I had seven and I believe to I some experience.
    I hope I've been able to help you!
    Have fun!