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To speed or not to speed?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Divster, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. Divster

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    Ok so we know speedhackers exist, anyone who denies this fact is either in serious denial or plain dumb. However using the kr client will yield similar if not identical speeds compared to 2d client players using a speedhack. What message is this supposed to be promoting? I have played this game for 10 years and only once have I used a speedhack, which was in order to determine what effect it actually had. I usually play in KR with pvp... yes yes I know it sucks for pvp.. however it is the only alternative an honest player has to keep up with players who are regarded by the masses as cheating little *******.

    Now considering the devs have released a client that is capable of performing legitemately as fast as a client which can illegitemately attain such speeds, but falls far short of requirements in other fields.. what are players to think? personally I do not understand why the majority of players instantly regard a fast moving player as a cheater when there is a client available that supports these speeds. Surely the fact that the devs have released something that makes these speeds possible should make these speeds acceptable? Why don't the devs openly accept these hacks as part of the basic program? If everyone is moving at the same speed the problem will no longer exist due to the server side caps.

    Add to this the fact that the speedhacking issue has been ignored for so long. We still pay our subscriptions but are basically being laughed at by those who take the choice of using certain programs and are literally running rings around those who choose to play in an honest fashion. The conclusion I have finally come to is that we should embrace this aspect of the game. the devs are clearly not bothered by it and have repeatedly refused to admit that it is easily testable in house, even in the most recent town hall they claim they cannot ascertain what the casual googler can in roughly 4 mins. so i put this question to you.. my fellow stratics players, should we all speed or should we all bleed our enjoyment to this frankly long overlooked aspect of the game?
     
  2. Divster

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    yes there are a legion of things you can do to enhance your clients performance, but what is the point of pretending this hacking is wrong when there is a client that will do this for you for free (both morally and financially)
     
  3. K'torr

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    How does one "set your ram priority to high on the client.exe process"?
     
  4. UOKaiser

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    Pretty much as i explained before you do not need a outside program to speedhack in 2d. Just like you dont need a outside program to naturally look like youre speedhacking in kr. The programs used is pretty much things you can do without a program to increase the speed of youre 2d they were just able to optimize there client in kr. They already capped server speed for players you will never go faster than that cap they put there and thats how fast they want you to go.
     
  5. UOKaiser

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    Ctrl-alt del go to processes right click on client.exe set priority bring it up to high or realtime this will dedicate cpu ram to that service first before the others

    Duel proccesors you can dedicate different process to different cpu. which will also speed up youre cpu
     
  6. Clog|Mordain

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    In task manager under the processes tab
     
  7. Divster

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    initiate your task manager, select your client.exe and right click.. then set to high piority (this in its own has no effect compared to the full "hack" initiative)
     
  8. UOKaiser

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    Its being around so long that people just dont understand why another person can move faster than another. Or how it looks like ther skipping frames on there computer. And they blame a program that does things that you can do youreself without a program. They ask why aint something done over and over again and ea puts there hands up and say what in the world you want us to do make our own operating system and force everyone to use it to just play our game "Microsoft already beat us to it"
     
  9. Nexus

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    Explain to me this then, I run a 25 or less ping to my preferred shard, and It's not uncommon for me to find people moving faster than my client, I only play 2d except for crafting, can update...and I've got a reasonably fast PC.. 2.4ghz dual core 4gb of RAM with a 8000 series video card removing the graphics load from the processor with nothing other than require background operations running.....
     
  10. Divster

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    yes but it is this that i am questioning... why is it that so many people quiver and quail about the effects of speedhacking, when the same things can be achieved by legitamate useage? the very fact that these top speeds are attainable using a complete client (no user settings required) should negate at least one of the major complaints about uo.. but since the devs refuse to venture any comment on this subject we are condemned to a world of suspsicion and accusation instead of a very viable common ground!
     
  11. UOKaiser

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    I can try to explain. Youre pc is good dual core ok but quad core much much better i assume a amd dual core? 4gb ram depending on speed of ram itself and depending on which 8000 video card 8800 is the best line in the 8000 series. But youre system is still youre system. A un optimize 2d will not move faster than KR as KR the client it self has being optimize and i believe doesnt have those pesky memory leakes anymore which really slow down youre system. You will have to optimize youre system and client. It will help alot still the program that does this specificaly tailors to uo and changes youre system to work better with Uo. It might even tweak a uo file and change some variables in youre client to receive the info better which probably gives it the edge from just the regualar system tweakes. of course if it does you can do it by hand as well just like changing youre client music.
    Its all about reducing that lag. And Kr has done a good job because its a updated client like most online games have. Remmember when 40 people get on screen at once talk about lag youre client is trying to process all that data at once.

    But all you can do is improve it some systems will just move faster than others no matter what. Even if 10 people where using the program some of them will move faster than the others no one is equal unless they have the same system same conncetion same configuration same house next to each other and still it wont be the same.
     
  12. Divster

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    All of this information is completely contrary to the point of my post, though i admire your attempt to enlighten others to their predicament.. remember you are talking to a population who have repeatedly expressed their desire to maintain low system requirements... however even with these min requirements these programs will still enable you to attain full speeds possible compared to the kr client. The point I was trying to make is that there is no reason why the 2d client as it was before and is now cannot perform at the same rate as the kr client does, so why is it we find ouselves in a situation where people are being accused of being "cheaters" simply by moving at speeds endorsed by the devs themselves.. albeit recently (to a given value of recently i.e kr)
     
  13. Clog|Mordain

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    I run a system with 700mb of ram and a 256mb graphics card. I ping 30-50. I can out run most others without running a 3rd party program. As UOKaiser said, its all about optimising your systems performance. Setting the ram priorities, not running icq(this hogs so much memory), or msn, hell dont even run i explorer. Also contact your ISP, and hope you get a smart technician. Try and get them to reduce the amount of hops from your house to the server.

    I get so much enjoyment out of seeing people say i hack because i can outrun them.
     
  14. UOKaiser

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    Oh and check if youre on fastpath or interleave if you have dsl. Fastpath gives you a great improvement. If youre close enough to youre CO.
     
  15. Clog|Mordain

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    Also on another note. When people say they are lagging, it will more then likely wont be their connection to the server, unless they are already pinging 400, its their computer running out of resources.
     
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    I forgot about that :)
     
  17. UOKaiser

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    Youre right hard to enlightnent players that being playing 2d for 11 years alot with older systems still and never even done a defragment on the drive. Its that 2d has not being fixed more by the dev which i can understand they might break something trying to fix the outdated client but its so useful and Its also my primary client of choice for general playing. But even i cannot give you the right answer to that I can only just speculate a bit.
     
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    Actually it's an Intel Dual core. I used to PvP a bit and I always set the client to high priority and that didn't help most the time with keeping up with some. I Think the issue these days is packet compression though which can cause information to get garbled. That might explain the lag it seems gets generated around certain people on the move.....as the server isn't sure what to pass on to your client.