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To the Person who stole from me,

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by Kattasrophe, Jun 23, 2014.

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  1. Kattasrophe

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    Dear Person that I had friended at my house, I don't know who you are yet, but I want to let you know that you took advantage of my kindness, As it would seem the people that I thought were my friends is starting to turn. I hope you enjoy the items because when I find out who you are, I will do nothing, I am not the kind of person to get angry over items, I am hurt that you think you had to steal them, if anything you could have asked. Enjoy your powerscrolls and Christmas items.
     
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    sorry to hear that katt. but it happens. locks keep people honest. if you need some items that can be replaced I would more that be happy to donate. just let me know.
     
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    I hate theifs .. In rl and in game. They are scum.
     
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    Dear Kat,
    I am a UO vet of over 16 years and old as dirt in the so-called rl world also. I want to encourage you to keep your positive outlook in spite of the fact that, just like this unfortunate episode, people will come along who will betray your trust and will spurn your friendship. But as many or perhaps more, will come along and become valued friends and companions. Powerscrolls and Christmas decorations on UO Siege are not that hard to come by, the respect and trust of the Siege Community is however. And Siege is a role playing community in the true sense of the word. We have the good, the bad and the ugly here and we like it that way; but mutual respect comes from being upfront about it. The one who took advantage of your kindness only stole from themselves.
     
  5. QueenZen

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    I had that happen back in the day on Chesapeake shard. It sucked. And as you said, not even as much as losing tons of stuffs, when you would have probably gladly given someone anyone whom you friended whatever they needed or even wanted. What hurt more I guess is broken TRUST. Once that is shot to hell, with whomever it may have been, that trust is never going to be restored regarding said ...idiotic person.

    At that time mine was a thriving vendor home, chests had to be set to Friends to enable folks whom also vendored outta my vendorhome to have chests to store stuffs and supplies so that they too could go into their our chests and make stuffs to restock and so long as we all together like a guild sorta would do resupply ourselves for our own self and everyone else it all went FINE. None of the many whom I had in there would ever have dreamed to rip us ALL of but one did. It took a while to find *the* one that did it, only 1-2 were even maybe remotely suspect, if that simply cuz for 2+ yrs. plus none off the others in there, ever did it at all, so the newer 2 in the place, were more suspect. In the end it was one of the newer friended to the home ones that did it all.

    Word got out though that EVERYTHING and I do mean everything was stolen taken, no doubt when the rest of us were sleeping in rl and thus logged out we wake up log on and fine every chest empty of everything, that we shared as a buncha friends, vendoring out of my vendor house. Myriads of folks on chessie began dropping off stuff galore to restock us all. They did not have to do that but they did and it was like some endless throng of folks bringing everything from fish steaks by the tons to wool and hides and more. It touched our hearts and minds for every one single self serving thiefing house looting trust breaking dickhead out there, you can be sure that there are 999999% of the mass of humanity that just are not into being a self-serving jackarse, stealing off trusted friends or trusted guild mates guild supplies or vendor homes for us ALL to share and work out of and play this game from. :)

    While I never had a home looted HERE, once burned ya learn more techniques, but we did have NEW guild house ripped off here, and many here came full of supplies when that happened. I remember being put in charge of NEW guild house chests, KSS guild house chests, MYTH vendor home and beyond here, and for any time any of those home got ripped off, more came and helped restock. TRUST is earned folks whom value it live by it few others never think twice about trust cuz it is meaningless to them. In the end they do reap what they sew, no one trusts them for diddly ever again once they cross that line.

    So while you are feeling that yucky feeling broken trust more than losing in game stuff, remember this, for every one self absorbed, thieving trust breaking no conscience dickhead out there of 100 far more honest or decent persons, in this game on any shard, that would rip off their own friends break trust when ya would about give them whatever they need or ask for, and everyone else, chances are good there are 99 whom may to step up to the plate and act decent :) While the game permits us to play thieves and to dry loot corpses, which is legal to do, crossing lines like ripping of friends homes or guild houses entirely or scamming someone out of their UO acct. does I think cross the line.
     
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  6. calaman

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    Katt tell me what you lost an I'll help give what I can back
     
  7. Kattasrophe

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    I want to thank you guys for the encouragement, I am not upset that the items are gone it is I am upset that who ever this person was thought that they had to steal them, anyone knows that if they really want something from me 9 times out of 10 I usually give it to them for free. I am not trying to cause drama or anything I just don't understand why they had to steal from me, or why they felt the urge to do so. Thank you for the offers of items but I do not want them, I just wanna know who did this, Im not gonna yell at them, or anything Im just want to ask them why and delete them from my friend's list.
     
  8. Chad Sexington

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    Well, the items weren't going to steal themselves!

    But I'm not heartless... just mostly heartless.

    I tell you what; show up this Sunday for Casino Night and I'll play some high stakes Blackjack with you.

    (The best kind!)

    1 million gold per game. If you win, I'll give it all back. If you lose -- especially if someone out there is nice enough to help bank you -- we'll continue 1 million per game until you win. Anyone else can show up to be witness if they like. The total value of items in the box is worth a few million gold. With any luck, it'll all be yours again for as little as 1 million.

    Also, I suggest you remove me from your friend's list immediately. I'll continue to steal from you until someone stops me.

    (I am a thief, after all.)

    :fight:
     
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  9. FrejaSP

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    Sorry to hear that Katt. People who steal from friends are some of the worse scum I know
     
  10. Kattasrophe

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    And to think I thought you were my friend. Ill take you up on that deal. as I said. Im not angry and thank you for showing yourself.
     
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    I can also remember a kid bout my son's age, playing UO on Chesapeake. I remember trying to tell him, do not trust that deeply regarding this in game lil girly girl he was trusting. He didn't listen. :( He friended her to all his in game UO ches. homes, he co ownered her even, and then...did the unthinkable, gave her his acct. info. so she could play his chr. up those taming skills he was tamer, so was she so he figured while he was off line she could up his skills too. Worked for about 2 mos. then she stole everything from everyone of his in game homes, and changed the passwords of HIS UO accts. Talk about broken trust and sadly learning trying maybe to find your *mate* in rl in some online game may not always be the wisest thing to TRUST that to work out for ya. He never returned to UO I am sure his rl heart his pride and that broken trust maybe took yrs. to recover from. :( I still think about *Wind* as one of his chrs. names were on that shard all these years later...which probably is comically why I gave even Kaisa and Riz a sermon on the mount when they were thinkin to rl get married. hehe Luckily it worked out for THEM. hehe :)
     
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  12. FrejaSP

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    I had known a lot thieves over the years, who never would abuse my trust.
    No respect earned for that kind of actions.
    But at least, you was honest to tell it was you.
     
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  13. Angyl of Ohr

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    Really Chad.......Really???? :lame:

    You give those thieves that do not steal from people a bad name! :cursing:
     
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  14. Chad Sexington

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    Before things get out of hand, let's get some things straight:

    1) This wasn't some con in that I was pretending to be her friend for the sole purpose of getting her to friend me to her house so that I could scam her one day. I never asked to be friended. She did it after doing an IDOC near her house.
    2) The items were just sitting there. Am I supposed to just not take them?
    3) I have a confession. I already ate the .7 Lumberjacking... so technically, I can't give it all back.
    4) Why do I get the feeling I'm going to get murdered on Sunday?

    (I'll post a complete list of items later.)
     
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    you see the corpseys of Chad all over Siege Perilous. :)
    BARF it up, Siege will enable joo to toss that furball of a powerscroll that belonged to another, outta ur innards. :)



    ok ima done posting , so ima outta here 4 today. :)
     
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    Thanks for owning up Chad (if indeed it was you who beguiled this young lady). As I said in my previous post Kat, we have all kinds of characters here and Chad has never tried to pretend that he is not the scoundrel that he is.
     
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    Oh yes it was! Refer to Freja's post on betrayal of trust.

    You deserve nothing less!
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Well, at least it was one of our ingame thieves that did what they do and not a friend that robbed you. Can´t really blame them for that.

    And now a tip to all.
    Always keep the items that you don´t want friended people to take at will in secure containers that only you have access to.
    So when you want to give something to someone you just take it out yourself. That way no one will ever be tempted and you won´t have to deal with the feeling that you were betrayed.
    And also, should you someday misplace an item and can´t find it, you know it´s your own fault and you won´t have to suspect the people on your friends list.
     
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    I think Chad is providing a valuable lesson about trust here.

    I don't agree with it happening, but if it had to happen this is really your best case scenario.
     
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    *nods*
     
  21. Kattasrophe

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    correction... I think Katniss is gonna kill ya.. she was needing that lumberjacking pink.. ;p and yes Wulf you are right. I will always be too trusting. Its just in my nature. But If Im doing this black jack thing I expect for everything to be there.
     
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    Did somebody get siege peril-ized? Welcome to SP!
     
  23. Kattasrophe

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    Ill remind you that the next time you get stolen from.
     
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    LOL, guess SP isn't the shard for the hardcore.
     
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    I still believe in the good in people, so lets see how it will go
     
  26. Kattasrophe

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    Picus I am just a naturally a nice person, there is nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Those arent thieves...
     
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    For the record the ONLY reason anyone is objecting to this is because Katt's reputation of being a nice kid. If this were anyone else you would all post "Welcome to Siege, Get thicker skin" or some sort of variation of that.
     
  29. Aran

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    Not necessarily true. There's an expectation of trust on secure containers.

    There's no bragging about how hardcore you are for killing the chest owner and taking it from their corpse, they had to explicitly say "I trust you" and then you have to betray that trust.

    It goes beyond the straightforward "might makes right" philosophy of the rest of the hardcority of the shard.

    No, if this were anybody else we would all post "Welcome to Siege, did you learn your lesson?"

    But since it's Katt, it's more like a rottweiler just came along and took a puppy's favorite bone while it was nursing from its mother. Then it comes back to where its bone was and it just looks around confused, and gives a little whimper.

    Then another whimper.

    Then the hardcore biker across the room wipes a single tear off his leathery face and says "aww, poor little thing, that just ain't right....", as the puppy stares into the depths of his soul with its sad little depressed eyes, and gives a final whimper, realizing that it has forever lost something which can never be regained.

    ...Whimper.
     
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    That's not why I object to this, I have no problem with thieves using the stealing skill to take stuff from people, nor do I have an issue with roleplayers playing this sort of character, but the incident here goes a bit beyond that, its over the line.
     
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    this was a scumbag move, gainin the trust of a 12 year old only to steal out of her house.
    keep up the good work, why dont you guys get Diablo to come back and join yas, he plays this con game pretty well from what the Bo has heard.
     
  33. Kattasrophe

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    I just wanted to know who it was, It was a bit upsetting for me and I have learned a lesson.
     
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    I sure did not like the way it was done but the story do not end here so I will wait and see how it goes Sunday.

    Siege never liked people, who took advance of someone who trusted them but again, lets see the rest of the story
     
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    Poor form...
     
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    There are a few different kinds of thievery; you are welcome to your opinion as well as I am. The way Chad went about his thieving is just totally wrong. This has nothing to do with it being on Siege. It's about personal ethics.
     
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    If you don't steal from people, you aren't a thief.
     
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    Shrugs. You are entitled to your opinion. :)
     
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  40. Kattasrophe

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    I guess that is a plus side.. if your the thief.
     
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    The only small mistake Katt did do was not knowing who Chad is. One cannot blame her for that , she doesnt play for that long.
    However, gambling for that lost stuff would be a big mistake.

    Agra-Lem
     
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    Forever one of my single proudest moments in UO was to star in episode 3.
     
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    So am I so there is nothing wrong with it just be the person who you are, and not let this change you.
    If you do not win or get your stuff back let me know, because I will be boycotting going to events, or buying stuff off the vendors there.
     
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    It's sad, but its part of our life which we had to be prepared. But I like how Kattasrophe
    concern about this event - very wisely.

    10+ years ago I came to the internet cafe and A SMALL BOY (~12 years) stolen my account (hopefully it was free shard account). A SMALL BOY asked me to show my character at his computer, I logged he said "Wow, I like your char!". And when I came home - I've found that somebody changed my password and took all items. Admin of this server was friend of mine and he restored everything, but it still really sad memory.. sad but funny.

    So.. beware of evil small boys hehe
     
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    Here is the complete list of items in question and everything that will be on the line this Sunday when it will be returned:

    Power Scrolls
    • 120 Tactics
    • 120 Stealth
    • 120 Veterinary
    • 115 Meditation
    • 115 Stealth
    • 115 Animal Taming
    • 110 Musicianship
    • 110 Necromancy
    • 110 Stealing
    • 110 Peacemaking
    • 110 Mace Fighting x2
    • 110 Ninjitsu
    • 110 Meditation
    • 110 Veterinary
    • 105 Stealing x2
    • 105 Veterinary

    Holiday Items
    • Happy Sixteenth Anniversary (horse)
    • Scrolls of Alacrity Book x2
    • A Mini House Deed
    • Claw Foot Tub x2
    • 16th Anniversary Silver Serving Tray
    • A Lobster Dinner x2
    • Candle Tray x2
    • 15th Anniversary Cake
    • Bowl of Flour
    • A Hand Written Note
    • A 2009 Holiday Card
    • An Anniversary Card x2
    • Sands of Sosaria (2000)
    • Sands of Sosaria (2003)
    • Marshmallow Duckling
    • An Easter Bunny Raised in Britain
    • Festive Tree x2
    • An Harpischord Roll
    • Red Stocking
    • Green Stocking
    • Red Candy Cane x5
    • Green Candy Cane x3
    • Gingerbread Cookie x5
    • A 2006 Holiday Card
    • A 2006 Holiday Card (rare white)
    • A 2009 Holiday Card
    • Recipe Scroll [Gingerbread Cookie] x2
    • Holiday Bags/Baskets/Gift Boxes x11
    Other
    • A Codex of Virtue
    • Scroll of Transcendence 0.7 Imbuing
    • Large Stone Table (east) x2
    • Gargoyle Hourglass
    • Jaana's Staff

    Well, like I said in the Casino Thread, everything in the Casino is legit. If we start cheating people for gold at our own event, no one will ever come back. It doesn't make sense.
     
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    So some person, who you don't know, friends you on SP to a house and you are expected to not loot the place dry? WTF people, SP is the last old school area the UO has left. It's as close to pretend wild west as people have. You go to SP for the thrill of the game and this was a rookie mistake if ever there was one to be made.

    This cry baby mentality is the whole reason the UO even has SP and the other shards are so safe nothing bad could happen. Get over it.
     
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    And only a fool would trust you after that. You clearly dont know where the line is. This isnt a steal of a few items. Looks more like you did take everything you could grab. Just plain lame, nothing else. Worst roleplay ever. Nuff' said.

    Agra-Lem
     
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    lol


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    did I cry? NO He wasn't a stranger, He was a friend of Henry Swift's I added him to the house cause I figured him and Swift might need to use the commotidy deed box from the Idoc. I figured that I'd let him stay friended. Im not being a cry baby. I asked who it was. He made me an offer and I took the offer.
     
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    Should probably brush up on Blackjack rules, strategies, and odds before putting too much on the line.
     
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