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token idea

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Belanos/Icicle, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. would it be very unbalancing or unfair or whatever to offer some sort of token that removes x longterm murder counts?
     
  2. Flutter

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    You mean for sale in the uo store? lol
     
  3. Black Sun

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    No, You do the crime you do the time.
    If you really want to remove your counts that bad delete the character and start a new one.
     
  4. exactly. say like 10 dollars for a 50-count reducing token, or 30 for a token that removes all of your counts.

    I bet they'd sell pretty well, and it would be a decent source of new income for UO

    and that isn't always an option, since some of us have personal bless deeds that would be badly missed.
     
  5. Black Sun

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    Should have thought of that before racking up all those counts.
     
  6. to clarify, I don't have any reds.
    but I have gotten a couple counts just from being in a big fight and being the targeter of a (non-warred) opposing guild member, and killing him.

    I kill AFK resource scripters whenever I see them in fel (which should somehow exempt people from murder counts anyway)

    and even when you just win a friendly duel you could end up with an accidental count.
     
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    I kinda like the idea, it's like hiring a lawyer to help get a reduced sentence...la
     
  8. Hey cant you soul stone all your skills. Kill the characture and transfer the skill to that new one. Sure youd lose power scroll stuff but they are that expensive.

    So like you said you can not only start a new characture but you can dump skills back on to them. I think?
     
  9. Dragonchilde

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    What about an in-game timer for ability to report? If you're sitting around in game for 24 hours and don't report... you're not there, or you're being vindictive. Sort of a statute of limitations.Doesn't apply to logouts (if someone kills you while you're combat flagged and logging out, for example) so if you're out of game, you can save that puppy indefinitely, if you want, but if all you're doing is AFK scripting, why should you be able to report when you come back 24 hours later?
     
  10. when they made the tram/fel split any need for reds/blues went out the window.

    if you go through red gate its all bets off no need for a color system any longer. unless its to help people get into pvp by taking away non consenual fighting to an extent.
    i go into fel with no fights i am pink and can only be attacked by other pinks, after 5 fights you change to yellow and can attack other yellows and maybe one color up this way everyone fighting is on roughly same skill level.
     
  11. Harlequin

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    I think his concern is the pbd. I wish they give those out again...
     
  12. Gellor

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    Been hashed to death in the past.

    My answer still remains: NO to buying one's way out of counts.

    I would like to see a linked "quest" that wouldn't be scriptable replace the current sit 40 hours per account. Something that is doable once a day or something similar.

    Rarely has it been possible to mysteriously go red. And the one time there was an exploited bug that caused that, EA offered a reprieve. Otherwise, the player knowingly killed people and should deal with the repercussions:coco:

    And yes, as a player with multiple reds(like 2-3 per shard that I normally play on), I am saying NO.
     
  13. Black Sun

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    As far as I know you can do it that way.
    My point is it shouldn't be easy to remove counts, it should be an inconvenience. Not just shelling out 20 or 30 dollars and have your slate wiped clean.
     
  14. Harlequin

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    I remember someone had an idea like that. By doing quests or doing the compassion thingie.

    1 more thing - Devs did mention that they are looking at a 1 time reprieve for reds.
     
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    Frankly, I'm for the removing of all guard zones from fel, completely. Removing teleporting by recall/sacred journey. Removing all penalties to reds in fel and more reasons to fight over cities. I go so far as to request all fel cities be entered into the fray.
     
  16. Pindershot

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    Yup.
     
  17. The Craftsman

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    Possibly right but the Devs are thinking of implementing a one time reprieve in any case so what people should or shouldnt have done wont come into it.
     
  18. Black Sun

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    I've heard about that, can't say I agree with it, but EA doesn't ask for my input when they make policies.
     
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    some of us bought or inherited accounts with reds (the account i bought had one red char with almost 700 long term counts) who also have PBDs. it will take years to get her blue. i don't want to delete her and stone her skills because i don't want to lose the PBD. just wanted to point out that not everyone with a red dug that hole themselves.
     
  20. D'Amavir

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    I don't know about the rest but i personally feel the whole 'red' thing is an outdated concept. We really don't need any 'penalties' for reds in this day and age.

    And no, before the yoohoos pop up, I don't have any reds.
     
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    How many "one time reprieves" have we gotten over the years?
    It's not a bad idea for people who want to sell accounts or whatever.
    I gotta disagree with the whole buy your points away idea though. A quest to remove counts one at a time? Maybe. Paying 10 bucks for every 50 counts. No thanks.
     
  22. The Craftsman

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    With regard murder counts? ok then .. how many?
     
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    Once. But wasn't that a mistake?...la
     
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    Once when factions was implemented I think, and at least once more when notoriety was wiped in the early days.
     
  25. Gellor

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    I recall two... one when Tram started(I believe) and one when there was a huge murder count bug where people were handing out undeserved counts like they were candy.

    As for the person buying an account with a red on it. I'd still say tough buns. Just as the player knew he was turning a char red, the person buying it knows the char was red. But, I wouldn't be against part of UO's account transfer service including one red reprieve.

    To me, the above issue is kind of like the guy buying a used car where the seller tells him "the engine is ready to blow up" and then waffles when the engine does blow up.:coco:
     
  26. Flutter

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    I remember at least two.
     
  27. Yalp

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    I'd have to agree.. No tokens to buy off your murder counts. You earned em! Wear them proudly. There's already a mechanism in the game to get rid of them if you so desire. It's long and tedious, but heck... so is making legendary in some skills!

    If they offer a 1 time reprieve, it should be for the minimum counts. So 5 counts.. if you've got more than 5 counts.. it's cause you've been working it. (or in some cases bought an account with a red toon.. in which case I have a hard time feeling any sympathy for you... sorry!)
     
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    I can smell the dupe of this token in the air.... Reds won't exist anymore.
     
  29. Flutter

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    Most reds are proud of their counts.