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Total Gold Spent in MAG

Discussion in 'UHall' started by RavenWinterHawk, Mar 30, 2011.

  1. We all talk about fixes. Removing gold from the game is something 95% of players agree with. How to do it is another story.

    Love or Hate Mag lotto plots... it is a big gold sink.

    I am curious about how much gold actually gets removed.

    Maybe a statue could be placed in Mag that states the total number of gold dontated to the rebuilding of the city.

    I think it would be interesting to see just how much gold is removed in this game.

    If it works... Why not knock a wall down in Luna and create more plots that work on a lotto system? Or a castle on an island. Something?
     
  2. hungry4knowhow

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    I was with you until that last bit. Other than that, all for it. I too am interested in howmuch this will take out of the game on each server.
     
  3. Yeah I was going to omitt the bottom. That is where we all have different ideas.

    But the first part is the important part.
     
  4. Black Sun

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    I think somehow allowing players to see how much has been spent will actually increase the amount of gold taken out of the game. I would be very surprised if some sort of tracking system was put in place and shards didn't start competing against each other to see who could spend the most rebuilding the city. Kinda like the moonglow zoo.
     
  5. TheMac

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    I agree with this completely but.. you can check each plot right before the lotto is over to see how many tickets were sold at each plot and do the math.. but that just seems pretty tedious.
     
  6. Gorbs

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    I'm game, but also implement a scoreboard that shows who the big spenders are.
     
  7. Black Sun

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    How about a giant thermometer that slowly fills up as gold is donated? Kinda like a save the children telethon.
     
  8. LadyNico

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    I have spent 0 gold on Magincia plots. Does that help? :lick:
     
  9. Yes but as time goes on the temptation will grow and the gold will creep up.
     
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    Nope, no temptation whatsoever.
     
  11. You dont want your gold

    You would like a plot in Mag

    These aren't the droids your looking for

    Move along
     
  12. jaashua

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    I have a 10x13 3-story on the Southwest corner of Mokuto with a view of the ocean where some guy has a Britannian ship docked. The only animals wandering around are beautiful cranes. I have some kind of pond surrounded by cherry blossom trees visible from my house. The city is indexed in various search sites and I have some useful player vendor houses down the street.

    And I placed that house about two months ago on a major shard. After seeing that hideous mess of a town they're calling Magincia, I'm not spending a cent there either. Actually, I'll bid on the 10,000 lots but just to resell.

    The land has zero visual interest. The plots look like bulldozers shaped them over top of a landfill. Nobody is going to go there to shop when the 22 houses there are spaced so far apart.
     
  13. hungry4knowhow

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    Now that would be cool. A tracking system.

    i was thinking just along the lines of the invasion statues in britain. But yeah I could definitely see more gold being spent across the shards if something like you said were implemented. Unfortunately I think its too late to add that.

    Who knows maybe they already did.

    Offtopic: I'm off to the doctor to find out how far along my fiance is with our second child! WOOT!
     
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    I would love for there to be an auction for a castle, or even a keep, on an island in Fel. Put a few trees on it and maybe a small mountain range for mining, but not enough room for any others homes to be placed.
     
  15. *shrugs*

    anything less than 16 TRILLION ... will not have an "impact" ...

    Back in history when they took that much out ...
    no impact ...

    How many hairs on an ogers butt?

    pointless trivia ... :danceb:
     
  16. Orgional Farimir

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    46 hairs on average.
     
  17. Hell's Ironworks

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    I dont think its gonna be a huge gold sink.

    A large majority of the biggest spenders will be people that wont be poorer after the lotto. Most ¨middle class¨folks wont want to spend millions for the unlimited tickets when they know that a bunch of others will just spend hundred of mills to crush the competition.

    So alot of peeps, counting me, will only participate in the 10k ticket plots , spending 110k at most, and still have all there gold in the bank.

    But like all lottery , some poor or ¨middle class ¨compulsive gamblers will spend all they have in the hopes that they will hit the jackpot with there 0,05% of total tickets bought.

    Point is, like someone else mentionned above, it wont change a thing .
     
  18. hungry4knowhow

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    Actually it did have quite an impact. Many gold sellers were wiped out. Many dupers/exploiters were wiped out.

    The reason the effects were not forever lasting was due to them just coming back and finding new ways to dupe.

    As far as I am aware there are no current dupes going around. Couple that with the very reduced amount of players compared to then, and you have much larger impact should 16 trillion be spent.

    No matter how many ways you cut it, 16 trillion is alot of gold. The vast majority of gold sellers dont even keep a 1 trillion inventory.
     
  19. GalenKnighthawke

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    1. You have no proof whatsoever that 95% of the players agree with removing gold from the game. None. Maybe 95% of your friends?

    2. Last I heard you can tell the number of tickets sold at each plot. Assuming this is accurate and holds on the production shards? Windows calculator ftw.

    3. Cal has said this wasn't intended as a gold sink. Sure it might turn into one! But that's different from it being intended as such.

    -Galen's player
     
  20. GalenKnighthawke

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    And let us not forget:

    4. When people first started saying it was gonna be a gold sink, the reaction from the boards was negative. People thought "this will just give cool housing for the rich and screw the poor, if it is intended as a gold sink."

    So not only is it not intended, we have been told, as a gold sink? But the boards appear to have decided it was a negative thing if it was.

    -Galen's player
     
  21. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    No gold is going to sink... what has the world come to for Fayled to have a clue ? :coco:

    There are billions in duped gold well stored in the brokers houses, the prices are all artificial, inflated.

    Everyone would be rich if they had the fair share they "paid" for.

    :sleep2:
     
  22. the 4th man

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    The Magincia plot plan will absorb alot of gold, but I don't see it sucking down alot. There will be many players attempting to get their plot, but I, for one, could seriously, care less about owning a plot there.

    I'm sure I'm not alone.
     
  23. hungry4knowhow

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    Your not. I may buy a ticket or two for novelty. But i certainly wont be buying any amount that i would think would give me a chance. Nor will I care one way or another if I get a plot.
     
  24. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Not only that but lotto should not be part of a PG 13 game...

    Just like some woman here are too hot to :blushing:

    hah.
     
  25. I just checked all the plots on Origin and so far, 126.7mil has been spent total on tickets and we have 3 days to go. .... 126.7 is a lot more than I expected for Origin.
     
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    Would be interesting to see how much gold was spent on tickets. Would be horrible if they didn't do it, but would be cool.
     
  27. G.v.P

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    [YOUTUBE]iLcNdkfPG5M[/YOUTUBE]

    I think we need to wait awhile to see how Mag effects Luna and vice versa. Magincia has to stay somewhat valuable for sellers to setup shop or else consumers won't benefit from a second vendor nexus.

    I don't think we can expect shards to get the Origin treatment until the lotto is finished there, which I think will take three days. However, I like the idea about a statuette w/ total gold deposited per shard/facet.
     
  28. jaashua

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    I'm expecting 4 billion on the major shards.
     
  29. Interesting.

    I actuall think atlantic will pull billions. Yes billions.
     
  30. That was funny vid.
    I remember the ice holes in that movie.

    Im just looking for something to spend gold on. Curious to see how much gold is available for all this. I think the DEVS will realize there is so much gold around with nothing to spend it on. But thats my opinion.
     
  31. NoBuddy

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    *Ding, ding, ding* That's EXACTLY the problem. They inject tons of money, with no means of pulling it back in. Give ppl something to spend that money on.
     
  32. Well, even if they dont say how much was spent, maybe we can have one person from each of the major shards, or all shards, check the tickets on the last day and see what the totals are.
    Its not that hard to pull up the calculator ;)
     
  33. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    My take on the gold sink theory;


    I really doubt one gold sink will have an impact, but several gold sinks will have a huge impact. Past 5 or 6 years Ive been a fan of creating game mechanics that slowly take gold from the game, I think its the way to go.

    But a problem with this I havent found a solution to;
    Imagine after several gold sinks prices drop alot. everyone has an average of 10m each. Here comes Joe and reactivates his account after 4 years of inactivity. Joe has 4 billion gold and buys the whole world. <- problem. No matter how much gold removed by gold sinks there will always be someone reactivating their old account that is filled with gold. Kida sad going from years of innactivity to King of the world, isnt it?

    I imagine the gold on inactive accounts are much greater than the current ingame gold on active accounts.

    Id like a debate about this from EA/Mythic, and throw your best phd world economists into it. The key to a healthy game is definately prices that a new player can handle and not needing 200m to make a competable suit.
     
  35. G.v.P

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    A lottery--gambling, in general--is a great way to keep people spending money. I know Test Center didn't exactly run the lotto smoothly, and I guess in a couple of days we'll know whether EA cleaned it up for Origin. The system is definitely appealing to me, and I wouldn't mind if EA did more lotteries. I prefer the lottery a lot more over how they distributed Abyss housing, that's for sure.
     
  36. I see the tickets are selling pretty good on Atl, I havent checked other places, but some Atl plots have already sold over 25k tickets.... thats over 100mil so far on the two plots I checked... will be interesting to see what the totals are on the last day. And for the hell of it, I might actually check each shard... depends on how much time I have that day.