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Total Health Bar Limitation Stifles Large Group Play

Discussion in 'UO Factions' started by JC the Builder, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. JC the Builder

    JC the Builder Crazed Zealot
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    This is an issue which has been around for years and years but I think it is time to try and bring it to the attention of the developers. There is currently a hard limit on the number of health bars you can have open of 10. This includes health bars for allies, enemy players, monsters and pets. If you are a tamer with 2-3 pets, you only can have up 7-8 bars. if you are in a group with 5 people, that is 5 bars taken. If you are a tamer with 2-3 pets in a group with 5 players, you only have a couple slots left!

    The only way around this is to be in a party. Then you can double the total. But every time someone joins/leaves/etc a party the bars jump all over the place. This prevents you from using it. Even if you are very careful and decide not to add more people, if someone gets a client crash the bars freak out when they log back in.

    In other MMOs you see the health of every person on the screen, which sometimes can be in the hundreds. I don't see why the cap could not be raised to 20 or perhaps 30. It shouldn't cause that much of a performance hit, be a rather easy change than fixing the party system (perhaps as simple as a single number or perhaps not) and be a big help to players who adventure with a sizable group of players. Plus with the upcoming expansion they said epic encounters will require ~10 players to do. How are you going to have the bar up for the champion when you have all your allies and pets?

    This is especially relevant in Factions play.
     
  2. Paradox_

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    Signed.

    Definately been a hate of mine. I honestly dont see why it couldnt be increased, or guild/allied faction members dont count towards the total.
     
  3. Flutter

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    /sign

    Especially on shards where the zerg guild outnumbers your own guild 10-1 ;P
     
  4. Sir Kenga

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    I just hate when health bars jump on my screen when someone joins party...
     
  5. Tina Small

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    I recently learned that you can move a bar by itself (i.e., without dragging along any other bars it has stuck to) if you hold down the Alt key while dragging it. May take two tries to get it to work, but it does work eventually and it helps somewhat to straighten out the tangled mess they sometimes turn into with folks and pets leaving, joining, etc.

    Sure wish I'd known that little tidbit of information a long time ago!

    I agree we need to be able to display a lot more status bars. It is very annoying to have them pop off the screen if you add new ones without realizing you've reached the max.
     
  6. Cardell

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    It doesn't bother me at all.
     
  7. Lynk

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    I haven't had the party bar problem in a long time.
     
  8. JC the Builder

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    Party bars will jump if you put them in the black area. You can only keep the stationary by leaving them in the play window.
     
  9. Lynk

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    I never connect them, I leave them just a little bit apart in the black area. Never had an issue since I started doing that.
     
  10. JC the Builder

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    Either you are using Kingdom Reborn or there is something else. This is a well documented issue and it can no be worked around. Keeping the bars separate does not prevent it.
     
  11. Flutter

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    Connect your party bars vertically and they wont move.
     
  12. JC the Builder

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    I've had them connected vertically and they still jump.
     
  13. Sid Vacuous

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    /signed

    It's borderline criminal that the party system has also been allowed to be so heavily bugged for so long.
     
  14. Flutter

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    Not just the party system but like the OP says pulling bars only to have that stupid "you have too many non party status bars" is just a pita. It's hard when someone calls target only to not have that bar on your screen b/c you only have 10 others pulled.
     
  15. JC the Builder

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    I was playing around with a party tonight and it seems they snuck in a fix some time ago. The bars don't jump around like they used to but they still do sometimes and it still wrecks everything. It just doesn't happen every time someone joins a party now.
     
  16. Anakena

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    There is another annoying stuff with the bars : when they all end up with the same name.