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Town Hall notes thread (10/18/08)...

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Dermott of LS, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. Dermott of LS

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    Japanese 11th anniversary items exclusive to Japan for 30 days then will go up to buy online.

    Talking about fixes in Pub 56... blank scrolls and bottles added to commodity deeds, more in the future as new engineer is learning the system

    Tamers will no longer be able to attack while stealthed (they will be revealed)

    Pristine Dreadhorn stackable

    No changes to greater dragons in 56

    Halloween content in Pub 56:
    Trick or Treating with new treats
    New Halloween content, something in dungeons
    Only blaze plant will be the cactus

    Stygian Abyss:

    Embueing: Requires a "soul forge" a gargoyle item all races can use. Resources required, some mundane (i.e. gems), some rare (Abyssal Claw?)

    Embueing will augment the power of certain Mysticism spells

    Embueing title "Artificer" (ooooo! sweet!)

    Mysticism: uses reagents Magery + bone, Dragons Blood, Fertile Drit and I missed the last of the four new ones

    Purge Magic: Debuffs a current buff from a monster/another player

    Enchant: Temp embues a weapon with a hit spell effect

    Animated Weapon: A new Blade Spirits

    Stone Form: Slows the caster, but buffs defense

    Spell Trigger: Stores a spell in an item to be used later (Mysticism)

    Mysticism title: Mystic (not Llama Herder)

    Throwing: Thrown weapons automaticcaly return to wielder

    Boomerang, Cyclone, SoClaive

    Title: Bladeweaver

    Special Moves will be out of the current special moves.

    A person working for Leuro doing a HUGE balance pass

    Q/A

    Embueing balance (keeping items from becoming "uber" ) Skill based (all new skills go to 120)

    Intensity level: 100, 5 items max on an item

    Embued items can no longer be fortified (fortify then embue)

    You will lose resources if you fail to embue, you will NOT lose the item

    Self Repair cannot be imbued

    Stygian Abyss:

    A question about the new lands, but skills are the current released info, lands to be released later
    Termeir(sp) the name of the garg homeland

    Embueing 120 scroll will be gained through crafting, other new scrolls will be on bosses

    Trammel bosses = epic encounters
    Felucca bosses will be champ spawn based

    Scripting prevention question:

    3 resources needed to embue: Unravelled material (relic fragments), gems, special boss-based drop
    Jewelry and embuing... you will be able to embue rings, no plan to add durability to jewelry

    Adding Balance (mod) to two handed weapons: A huge balance pass is being done, will be brought up

    Area Effect and slimes causing durability hits... probable bug, being noted

    Timer display for Red characters: Sounds like a reasonable idea

    Dispelling Mortal Wound as though it were a Curse: will be discussed with the team

    4/6 Chiv vs 2/6 Magery: Combination of Close Wounds + GHeal was too overpowered
    Chivalry "needs a good hard look"

    Upgrade codes online: More info when it becomes relevant

    There will be a Beta Test

    A couple of sea/lava encounters, but no upgrades to seafaring itself

    "Useless Specials": part of the balance pass.

    Exploiters and cheaters on Great Lakes: Not yet in a position to talk in detail,actions in the works to battle it
    Cannot act based on screenshots due to ability to fake, names, etc

    KR vs SA client system performance should be a smaller download and footprint due to more efficient animations

    Beta Test for SA client "still very fuzzy" going to ask for feedback "within a month or so"

    Can only spell trigger Mysticism spells, may require Embueing to max out power of Spell Trigger
    Rare fragments for embueing may be in new T-Maps

    Plans to revamp Virtues: No plans at this time, always asked about, but never makes top of priority list

    Sounds in SA: talk about new sounds and music, will be investigated

    A big go-round about guard zones and PvP, no sympathy from Jeremy

    What's next after Factions and Gardening:
    Factions are tied into the next Live Event arc, Gardening kind of "accidental"
    57 will be before the end of the year... more stacking stuff, clean up, bugfixes
    Beginning of next year = SA, new client, beta, etc. Live stuff will be balance passes.
    Fixing Sherry the Mouse not doing town crier stuff: will be mentioned, may be tied into 56
    EMs might be coming back, Details: No details about EMs at this time... legal is working on it

    Repeat question regarding hiding tamers and greater dragons

    They do not QA for Siege due to resources issues, depend a lot on reports from players.

    Additional character slots on Siege... nothing right now, feedback very fixed

    Speedhacking is difficult to test in house

    Treasures of Tokuno: Not on the schedule
    SA artifacts like Tokuno: yes

    Client crashes: one found when gating while someone else is moving items keep sending in bug reports

    Has Faction participation increased? Not a massive increase yet

    Equipping/trading faction items: Cannot be used unless you are of the correct rank in the correct faction

    Resize delay on placement tools: written down to be removed

    Champ Spawn cams: Currently being investigated, more champ spawn style monsters in SA

    Someone talking about needing Soulbinding to keep from "dumping" items on extra characters to get back into a Faction fight
    New Faction items are not blessed, but are insurable
    Soulbinding would mess up Siege

    Unknown on Town Halls for next year

    Peerless bosses being soloable: Most Peerless take 1 - 5 players, Champ Spawns 5 - 10 players, Epic Encounters will take 10 - 15 players

    Permanent Spring Cleaning: Concept was popular, may be done in the future
    Community Collections need to be looked at before new features added

    Dragon breath for Greaters needs to be nerfed according to Leuro

    Garg flying works like Etherals (this was covered at the last Town Hall)

    Stackable issues need to be looked at (bugged item IDs)

    11th Anniversary items: no detail off the top of Jeremy's head.

    Team given an "11th Anniversary Cake" in presentation box

    Silver Steeds: Unknown... whole good and evil system not active on shards (is on Siege)... probably a dead system

    A thief idea to give the gold value of an item to the thief if they try to steal it and it is insured

    Useless skills have been discussed for SA uses

    Beggars: Beggars will be useful for Trick or Treating also a bugfix for begging in 56

    Dread Warhorse spawn again? Unknown

    Voice Chat inside the game using distance: Never even considered plans for voice chat, unlikely at this time

    Why create a new client: It is more maintainable for 11 more years, current client is very old.

    Cross shard gate to Fel rules: dupes due to Xferring are "terrifying".

    PvP "minigames" based on dev team schedules, they want ot get them in though

    Gain rate for Taming: difficulty based thus dependent on the animal.

    117.1 was the highest in Spellweaving without GGS, may be affecting Tamers or other skills.

    Customizing castles: Adding new fixed home designs requires a LOT of work for the design team.

    Court yards will be looked into. Recall was taken out due to facet flipping with moonstones

    Chariots for 11th year rewards: Noted after some off-mic crosstalk

    No loss of 2d until new client reaches 95%+ usage, new features are a new client draw, but may be put in based on useage, not on schedule as client builders are working on the new client

    Perspective in KR/SA vs 2D is an illusion.

    Artist coming back from the T2A days (interesting!)

    Dev Team looking better than it was a few months ago... grinding away on the SA client.

    Team picture taken 2 weeks ago, could be posted soon

    Cus and Karma loss due to mythology: not something that was considered for UO

    Planning for Publishes: Jeremy goes over the Publish process, took a bathroom break as there's a lot of process information, but not really "hard news", so check the audio recording for details!

    Making champ spawns free-for-all no murder count PvP: "write that down, interesting suggestion"

    No Halloween shard this year due to lack of time
    Retribution shard is the Focus group shard (not very active) (Draconi's Toys)

    Special shards are generally done on Devs' free time

    Ghosts need to be able to walk through boxes: noted as bug.

    Shardwide events posted on Five on Friday

    SA chat client chat improvement question... to be covered later

    Player run town system is dormant... ideas are around, but nothing considered yet due to dev resource issues

    Repeat ToT question

    Some plans for pigments, but nothing at hand to report

    What new resources in Stygian: stone and granite for armor and weapons Embueing will have 3 types of fragments from Unravelling: Residue, Essence, relic fragments; Rare ML ingredients will be used, normal gems will be used

    Bone, Fertile Dirt, Dragon's Blood, Daemon Bone are the four new reagents

    Exclusive offers are TEMPORARILY exclusive

    Question on inventorying certain Doom artifacts for dupes (I would think this would be difficult due to X-Shard trading)

    Jeremy talks about deleting Vine Cords vs artifacts, lets a little something slip verbally

    Bushido changes; probably
    Gardening: not as a skill
    No new ridables in the immediate future

    No cart/chariot/wagon in the forseeable future (at least not before the expansion)

    You cannot stack spell effects (i.e. if a weapon has Hit Lightning, you cannot add Hit Magic Arrow) with the spell above

    Crap I lost some notes due to the wrong click

    Chivarly needs to not be a 60 point skill anymore

    They want to move away from skill jewelry being able to "break" the skill cap

    Talk about rescaling skill points... before they can add in skill cap increases.

    DCI for archers: not remembering an exception for archers
    Accuracy in Archery is something to be looked into
    DCI may not affect Dismount
    Special Moves may not be working properly in terms of defending against them

    Client crash when looting items: There is a crash that is being looked into, probably two inter-related issues

    "Those evil hamsters" (probably about the login server)

    Legal way to sell UO gold: Currently selling UO gold is not a violation. Jacobs may not like RMT sales, but it is LEGAL in UO.

    11th year vet rewards are on the table, no news yet

    Anti-Virtue system for reds: something kicked around, no firm plans

    Multiple faction arties on one character: believe so

    Exorcism: No plans to make "wider" in effect

    Seed stacking: more need of a BOD book style of system than stacking

    More character slots or skill points: Slots not determined, NO skill point increases

    Weight for new reagents: will be looked into

    EA does not get involved in vouching for RMT sales sites Buy at your own risk

    Need specific reports for freezing issues

    New client cannot get rid of ALL outside programs (not a winnable fight, other methods will be used)

    LRC works with Mysticism reagents

    Talk about the Soul Forge: One version for house, a potent version in towns, and a special version with max bonus in Garg town

    Mysticism will have some complementary skills

    Town Hall in Canada: Send in suggestions as Feedback

    Will need to earn the garg's trust to use the high end forge

    RvR in UO: "no not really" (really answered above with X-Sharding dupe worries)

    Gem carts give out different gems, apparently will not sell to a jeweler (hmmm didn't pick gem cart)

    Logs from stumps do not stack with chopped logs: probably a bug

    Leuro asks Rico: What the heck does "la" mean?

    Race to Garg: yes, not figured out how it will work yet

    Garg bonus: Bonuses to the new skills, others up on website

    KR patch: is Pub 56 with substantial animations additions and changes with new artwork

    OSI houses, send them in, Customer support will take them down as they get time

    Pet AI improvement (pathing): a good suggestion to be worked on

    Ancient Samurai Helms do not auto-dress when you quick loot corpse... known as it's a blessed item, may be worked on.

    GMs do not do ideas or bugfixes, Devs do bugfixing, use bug reports and feedback as GMs cannot help

    Pet flagging bug allowing people to give counts: looking into it

    Flagging issues with casting a Revenant after the initial 2minute flag time... send in info so they can get it to QA

    Marketing for UO: good for visibility, not as good for revenue. Retail margin on console and used games better than for computer games

    And now to WRR for prize giveaways... so unless they come with some more info, there's the bullet point transcript!
     
  2. Spellbound

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    Looking forward to your notations; thank you Dermott of LS.
     
  3. AdamD

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    Thanks Dermott!
     
  4. Kojak

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    omg - can't wrr ever get it right?

    especially after what happened last time
     
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    OMG @ WRR !! MY Ears!!!! =/
     
  6. olduofan

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    what station is it on ?
     
  7. Viquire

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    anyone else missing LS on login page? nm im in now
     
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    *hopes for some fun low-end systems to go with the new skills / components*

    (my idea of a fun boss creature is a wee bit lower than peerless)
     
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    (Jeremy's responses to the Yew guard zone debate are hillarious)
     
  11. Harb

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    Whoever made this decision should be fired without hesitation or further discussion. I try to be reasonable both in action and speech, but this is so astounding it's time to be a little more blunt. Let me see if I have this right. Many thanks to our Japanese players this anniversary, as for all players elsewhere, you can buy your anniversary gifts yourselves at a later date. Did I get that right? Absolutely incredible.

    P.S. Many thanks Dermott for the post!
     
  12. Geesh, she sounds like a broken record... "it's something we can look at" or "thats something we can certainly look into"
     
  13. chrisjwhite

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    Where do we ask Internet Questions?
     
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    No, you didn't get it right if you are implying that the Japanese players don't have to pay for the items. We all have to buy them. It's just that the Japanese market will get a boxed version of the game and we will have the codes available to us through the online store.

    I suspect the 30 day delay has to do with exclusivity issues regarding putting out a boxed version of the game.
     
  15. Deb

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    I missed the first hour of it...was anything said about whether we will get
    any 11th anni gifts in game or just purchase only?
     
  16. Harb

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    Thanks for the clarification :) It still doesn't sit too well with me, but I wouldn't advocate job loss with this as the scenario. Thanks again.
     
  17. Sounds like some interesting info , but on the other hand its mostly the useless we can't talk about our not so super secret game...The next publish not til almost the end of year?? What is there 2 people working on UO?

    Ohh yea , I quit , but am still waiting for that great publish or expansion.. :sad4:
     
  18. Endrik

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    Hopefully they will give every char at least one or two tokens as a Thank You, and then allow you to buy extras if you want them. That would be the fair, and appropriate thing to do to thank the players. Of course, not sure why im bothering to mention "fair" and "appropriate" and "thank the players" in a UO discussion. My bad.
     
  19. Deb

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    Any word on when Pub 56 going to TC?
     
  20. Maximus Neximus

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    No Champ Spawn free for all.... If you attack someone you should go grey. If you kill someone you take the risk of going red.
     
  21. Lady Kiara

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    Thier avoiding the question.

    plus thiers not going to be a holloween shard.
     
  22. Maximus Neximus

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    Also vote no to ghosts wakling through things. Just send a guild through a defense dead and then self rez on other end....
     
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  24. Ferrut

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    Someone tell them the login server is down... hehe
     
  25. AesSedai

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    - Glad I tuned into the Dermott of LS Town Hall Blog thread!
    (Thx Dermott :))

    I'm interested to see what they are working on regarding cheating; as usual.

    Sounds like embuing will be a question of whether you want to keep your items indefinitely or buff them up for special occasions (because its durability will eventually drop to 0 and the item will die). It will be interesting to see how this is balanced out.

    Increasing champ spawn -type activities while spawn cams are still an issue.. Seems to me like an addition solely for huge guilds or guilds willing to cheat by running unattended scout characters. So, please:
    Give the characters more policing powers, or ramp up the GMs policing abilities, or change the rules to allow average non-cheating playstyles to compete, please.

    Hidden tamer change - good fix.
    Team picture - in addition to the one in the last UOHoC chat? Cool.
    Of course factions hasn't ramped up too much lately; there hasn't been a lot of public discussion on it aside from a bit on Stratics, iirc.
    Speedhacking difficult to test in-houe.. remember that discussion by MrTact last year, Draconi?
     
  26. Lord Sir Scott

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    where do we get dragons blood? i know dragons, but can we get it now? is that a necr reg or will it be something new?
     
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    Seems like they could let us create new designs on a test shard, then let us vote for the best of different sizes.
    Allowing us to choose different walls/floors for different homes shouldn't be too difficult. Replace each wall or floor tile with the equivalent tile of a different wall/floor choice.
     
  28. Lady Kiara

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    Thier avoiding the question.

    plus thiers not going to be a holloween shard.
     
  29. Viquire

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    I like the bit about moving Buc's Den, a lot! Maybe we could get some sort of pvp duel system for there.
     
  30. Flora Green

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    It would be nice if they would address the fact that we still cannot access the last tile sets without purchasing a 30$ 9th anniversary box off of Amazon. Jeremy did say a few weeks back they were looking into it. It's been two years and that is STILL the only way to get those.
     
  31. Lord Sir Scott

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    Spend some time finishing what we have VS SA IMO...
     
  32. Harb

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    Lets see, 31x31 square to allow customization. Hmmm, tough to design, a lot of work? I must have gotten outta bed grumpy this morning.
     
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    Where do you post internet questons for the town hall?
     
  34. MalagAste

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    Do you think someone could ask them the most obvious question ever????

    If they have EM's and stuff on Japanese shards because they can have them in Japan then WHY can't they hire Japanese people to work on all the other shards too!??!??!?
     
  35. RoycroftLS

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    When a PvPer posts cropped screenshots hosted from a personal image hosting account, and other uncropped screenshots are found in that account depicting the same character/account using cheats/hacks, it's a big stretch to assume the screenshots are faked. "Well, he could be innocent, and simply edited his own screenshots to show himself cheating, and then posted them online with a bunch of suspiciously cropped screenshots just to play a trick on us."

    But anyway, even if the devs can't/won't ban based on evidence like that, the evidence should give them a good idea of which characters to watch in game. The fact that no action is subsequently taken against such people, along with generic "things are in the works" statements, is just the kind of thing that leads people to believe they can cheat with no negative consequences.

    At some point (UO might be there already), there will be so many cheaters that it will make more business sense to let everyone cheat rather than crack down on the illegal activity.
     
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    Wow. Just... wow.
     
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    I wish they would answer when publish 56 is going to go to test.:(
     
  38. Lord Sir Scott

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    i am confuse whats the differenence of stone vs granite?
     
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    The best part was when Nemo [HOT] told those Great Lakes players to go learn2pvp.
     
  40. Viquire

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    Thank you Dermott and thank you WRR.
     
  41. Teeshy

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    Thanks a heap Dermott =) Always appreciate it, as I can't listen in =)
     
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    Thanks Dermott :thumbup1:
     
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    Perhaps I misunderstood the question on flagging, there at the end. Hasnt it always been, if you cast a field or blade spirit, anyone who ran into the field or BS saw you as grey? Thats the way it was long ago anyway, not sure if they ahve changed the rules or not.
    But in the old days, we used to cast BS to train guildmates, and the notos would always run by into them, and attack the casters freely and without penalty. So I don't understand the confusion on it. *shrugs*
     
  44. Dermott of LS

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    ...

    Flagging rules with things like EVs and BSs and fields have been reversed time and again it seems (I think I can remember at least three "reversals" before UO:R, maybe only two) because each way of doing the flagging can lead to problems.

    If using them DOESN'T flag you as an aggressor, then you could PvP/PK without taking a count.

    If using them DOES flag you as an aggressor, then you could run into one, suicide and give someone a count whether they were fighting you specifically or not.

    Either way created a problematic loophole, so whatever the last version was, I lost count.
     
  45. DevilsOwn

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    thanks Dermott, you can go have your dinner now :)
     
  46. pavel.vesely

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    Blue cannot harm blue with area attack, only with direct. Noto-killers are exact reason behind that.
     
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    Battlegrounds, er, PVP Minigames? Check.
    Raids, uh, I mean Epic Encounters? Check.
    Enchanting, er, Imbuing? Check.

    What a bunch of crap. It's clear that the current developers are a bunch of WoW players with no real understanding of UO. It's getting harder and harder to figure out why I should play UO and not WoW given that they're trying really hard to turn it into just "WoW but with crappy graphics and oh yeah items with enchants on them wear out permanently".
     
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    Items wearing out sounds good to me. *nods*
     
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    It was back when this was UO. Ever since AoS turned it into Diablo 2, item decay hasn't really had a place in the game. They clearly want to bring it back, but just as clearly don't have any real idea how to do so.

    Between that and the usual 90% of the answers consisting of "Duh, I dunno!" or "It's on the radar!" which means "It'll never happen!" this crap is just depressing.
     
  50. meridus

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    I took this to mean: We paid to have the retail boxes in Japan, so we need to sell them. If we offer online at the same time box sets go out, box sets will not sell. Therefore, 30 day lead on boxes. They sell. Then we offer online.

    Cheers.