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[Discussion] Trading Forums FAQ, Guides & Rules

Discussion in 'UO Pacific Trade' started by Petra Fyde, May 11, 2010.

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    Posting and Forum Guidelines
    All of these rules are are in addition to our Rules of Conduct.​
    If you have any questions about the rules or allowed items, please PM one of the moderators and ask.​
    The moderators for this forum are listed at the bottom right, below the threads list
    Trade Forum Descriptions

    General Trade Forums
    Each shard's general discussion forum has a trade subforum on which trades between that shard's players may be conducted. Subject prefixes are mandatory here.​
    Special Trade Forums
    • UO Trader's Hall - A place to Trade Cross-Shard, get Price Checks, and Discuss Trade. If your trade consists of Multiple Shards, please use this forum instead of the other forums. Subject prefixes are mandatory here.
    • UO Rares Collector - Where chairs are considered better when broken and bandages better when bloodied. This forum is for all things Rare and those who Collect them. Subject prefixes are mandatory here.
    • UO Holiday Trading - The place to trade special holiday goods. This forum is mainly used in the years long tradition of Cross-Shard Trading Holiday, Seasonal, and other Gift Items. Subject prefixes are disabled here.
    UO Trade Forum Guidelines



    A. Replying to Posts
    Replying to your own thread, ie 'bumping' with the sole purpose of making your post stay visible is acceptable within certain parameters. Please see item L. below.​
    If you have a question for a poster regarding an item they are advertising on the forum, please contact them via the contact method they have provided or via PM.​
    If they are selling something that appears to be priced too high and you are interested in the item, contact them privately and see if they are flexible on their price and willing to negotiate.​
    If someone is selling an illegal/unallowed item or an item you feel is being misrepresented as a rare, please use the notify moderator feature. You can find the icon at the bottom of every post.​
    B. Updating Your Post
    If you need to update your post please use the edit feature. The edit button appears when you view your own post, next to the "Reply" button. Also, note that editing your post will not bump it, so feel free to edit as often as you need. Some of the reasons could be having sold one of the items, bought one of the items you needed or wanting to update current bids on auction items. If too much time has passed and you are no longer able to update your post, you may repost an updated version if needed.​
    C. Scammer Accusations
    If you get scammed, often your first reaction is to warn others so that it doesn't happen to them too. Although you have good intentions, we ask that you do not post anything about who scammed you as these accusations are really just one poster's word against another. UO allows for many chars on the same shard to have the same name, so you could inadvertently spoil an honest person's reputation. Or someone could post that someone they disliked was a scammer and ruin their reputation when it is not true.​
    D. Duper Accusations/Targeting & Opinions
    There have, from time to time, been accusations that a Trader may be a Duper just because their wares are items most likely to be Dupes.​
    We have a "List of duped items" posted in the UO Rares Collector forum that is updated by our Moderator there, Tomas-Bryce. This list should suffice as enough warnings about Duped Items.​
    The Moderators of the Trade Forums will advise players within specific Trade Threads about Duped Items if they feel it is absolutely necessary. We understand the Communities need to try and self-police such things however, we must ask that this not be done. It might be okay to give an opinion on whether one thinks items are Dupes however, it is another thing to target the Trader as the creator of those items. Because this is a fine line, we must ask that such not be posted.​
    Instead, please use the Report link at the bottom of the post in question to report such things to your forum's Moderators. Then allow them to decide if such a notice should be posted to that particular thread.​
    Targeted accusations against a Trader for being a Duper, Scammer, Hacker, Exploiter, Cheater, etc. will not be tolerated. Such replies will be removed and warned upon as necessary.​
    E. Unallowed/Illegal Items
    Please do not sell any of the following items on our forums:​
    • Duped Items (past or present)
    • Items from any Current Exploit
    • Any item listed currently Here on uo.com

    If you have any questions regarding the legality of an item or whether it is accepted on our forums, please inquire on the UO Trader's Hall forum.​
    F. Linking to Other Trade Forums
    Please do not create posts strictly for the purpose of linking or advertising any other trading websites or forums. The exception to this is auction themed websites such as ebay, uo-auction, etc.​
    G. Cross-Shard Posting
    When applicable, please post your cross shard items on either the UO Trader's Hall or UO Holiday Trading forums. However, if you are asking your buyer to x-shard it themselves, please only post the item on the shard it is physically on.​
    Cross-posting the same trade on multiple forums is considered a minor form of spam and is not allowed.​
    H. Information on Bugs/Exploiting
    Please include the following details in your email:
    • Server Name
    • Detailed Bug Description (step-by-step, tell us what you did and what happened)
    • Date/Time of Occurrence
    • Location (Sextant coordinates, facet, and city location
    • If someone is selling an illegal/disallowed item or an item you feel is being misrepresented as a rare, please use the notify moderator feature. You can find the icon at the bottom of every post.
    If you have any questions regarding the legality of an item or whether it is accepted on our forums, please inquire on the UO Trader's Hall forum.​
    I. Advertising Malls, In-Game Auctions or Merchant Events
    Events hosted by a mall, auction or that are crafter-related may be posted on the trade forums. All other events should be posted on the respective shard forums. Event coordinators are advised to contact the associated shard news reporters and utilise the shard event board. Advertising Malls, In-Game Auctions or Merchant Events may also be posted on the Shard Forums however, please do not cross-post them. Instead, contact a News Reporter to get it in the Event News.​
    J. Price Checks and Discussion Posts
    Please post these on the UO Trader's Hall, or your home shard's trade board. Price Checks on the Shard Forums will be allowed at the sole discretion of the Moderators assigned to those Shard Forum(s).​
    K. Real Life Monetary Trading
    Please adhere to the main Rule especially in regards to:​
    P. Player to player transactions selling in game virtual items for real life currency are prohibited from being promoted or advertised on our network.​
    L. Bumping Threads
    Please allow 24 hours before beginning to Bump your trade thread. Then further allow 24 hours in between bumps.​
    M. Game Account Sales and Trades
    Because of security issues involved in the necessity of revealing account information, these transactions are prohibited from being promoted or advertised on our network..​
    Tips to help your sell/trade your item

    Make sure you include valid contact information such as ICQ, MSN, Etc so that other users may contact you in regards to your post.

    Don't forget to include images! If the item is one that is prized for its unique appearance or is not well known, including an image can increase its chance of selling dramatically. If you are selling a home or advertising a mall, auction house, etc make sure to include a map that has at least one well known landmark such as a city, moongate, dungeon, etc to help players in finding the location. Some free websites for hosting these pictures include:
    Make sure to double check your spelling, especially on artifacts and items. Many users will use the search feature to scan the entire shard trade forum and having proper spelling on your post will give your post the best chance at being seen by as many searching users as possible.

    Make sure you include all attributes of a weapon or piece of armor. Although an attribute might not be worth a lot to you, to the right player it could mean the difference in buying and selling.

    Share the forum with friends and guild mates. The more people checking and using the trade forums, the more chance you have to sell your item or find what you are looking for.

    Commonly Asked Questions about Trading

    Q: What is an exploit?
    A: An exploit is any item obtained in a method not intended through normal game mechanics.​
    It is hard to describe every incident which might be considered an exploit. Because the game changes, and systems change, new exploits appear as old ones go away. Basically, an exploit is the ability to do anything in the game which you should not normally be able to do. For instance, if you aren't able to walk into a house with your character, but you discover a way for an animal to break in for you, you are obviously taking advantage of an exploit. It is obvious that thieving animals are not part of the game. It is obvious you should not be able to get into houses which have the door locked. If you find a loop hole which allows you to duplicate items or create more gold, this is also considered an exploit. Are you able to kill someone in a town who is not in a warring guild? This is an exploit as well. In each instance, the rules have obviously been broken and unusual gains have been made. Knowing what is an exploit is really a matter of knowing how the game works. Ignorance that you were using an exploit will not prevent removal from the game for committing such an exploit.​
    Also EA has made a statement Here regarding the legality of items:​
    In the long history of Ultima Online, there have been certain items that have entered the game due to bugs or exploits. We have been hesitant to post a list of such items, for some unscrupulous players might see such a list and attempt to recreate such illegal items. However, to help players discern the differences between these illegal exploit/bug items and legal rare items, we now feel that there are certain exploit-based items that can be listed publicly.​
    The items listed below were created or obtained through the use of an exploit or bug, and are not able to be obtained or acquired through any legitimate means. They are prohibited within Ultima Online, and players who are found to have, use, trade, or sell them may have action taken against their account.​
    These items are listed because they continue to exist in the world even though they are not re-creatable, but please do not consider these listed items the only ones that are unacceptable within UO. Just because an item may not be on this list does not necessarily mean it is allowed. We reserve the right to change and update this list at any time.​
    • Portable forges, looms, spinning wheels, or other obviously not portable add-ons
    • Water or grass tiles
    • Silver steeds (except for Siege Perilous, and Mugen)
    • Tame ancient wyrms
    • Neon sandals (not BOD reward or AoS gift sandals)
    • Khaldun puzzle box
    • Chyloth's Shroud (red death shroud) and/or Staff.
    • Portable Mouseholes
    It is critical for all players to understand the following information about this list of exploit-created items:
    • There are exploit-created items within the world that are not on this list, but just because items are not on this list, does not necessarily mean they are allowed.
    • We reserve the right to change this list at any time.
    • This list will only note items that were created with bugs or exploit that can no longer be created.
    • Game Masters will not discuss the legality of an item. The Development team reserves the right to remove any item from the game.
    • The purchase, sale, and ownership of these items are at your own risk.
    Please also note that we continue to look extremely unfavorably against any player who attempts to use a bug or exploit in order to create an item that should not normally exist within the game, and players who violate the rules of UO at any time may have action taken against their UO game accounts.​
    Q: How do I know what is rare and what isn't?
    A: The best way to find out is to ask. Ask in the UO Rares Collector or UO Trader's Hall forums.​
    If someone tries to pressure you to buying without some information, than it could be a scam.

    Glossary of Trade Terminology
    General

    Aof - an abbreviation for the Armor of Fortune artifact
    Arties or Artys - a slang term for artifacts
    BoD - an abbreviation for Bulk Order Deeds
    CBD - an abbreviation for Clothing Bless Deeds
    Ethy - an abbreviation for an Ethereal Mount
    Eval - an abbreviation for the skill Evaluating Intelligence
    Fel - an abbreviation for the Felucca facet
    HotM - an abbreviation for the Hat of the Magi artifact
    K - Denotes 1000's of gold. 400k = 400,000 gold pieces
    Mil or M - an abbreviation for millions (in gold)
    Martie - a slang term for minor artifact
    Medi - an abbreviation for the skill Meditation
    Orny - an abbreviation for the Ornament of the Magician artifact
    PS - an abbreviation for a powerscroll
    Reg - an abbreviation for Reagent
    S-Bod or SBods - an abbreviation for Smithing Bulk Order Deeds
    SPS - an abbreviation for a stat powerscroll
    T-Bod or TBods - an abbreviation for Tailoring Bulk Order Deeds
    Tok - an abbreviation for Tokuno
    Tram - an abbreviation for the Trammel facet
    Vet - veteran, usually in regards to veteran rewards
    WTB - an abbreviation for "Want to Buy"
    WTS - an abbreviation for "Want to Sell"
    XFER - an abbreviation for Transfer
    X-Shard - a slang term for cross-sharding
    Magical Properties Abbreviations

    1/1, 1/2, ?/? - Usually represents the fast casting/faster cast recovery attribute
    DMG or DI - Damage Increase
    DCI - Defense Chance Increase
    EHP - Enhance Potions
    FC - Fast Cast
    FCR - Fast Cast Recovery
    HCI - Hit Chance Increase
    HLD -Hit Lower Defence
    HPR - Hit Point Regeneration
    LMC - Lower Mana Cost
    LRC - Lower Reagent Cost
    MR - Mana Regeneration
    No - or No Neg - Stands for no negative fast cast, usually advertised with spell channeling
    PP - stands for pre-patch, usually with different mods than a current spawning version.
    Regen - Reneration, usually preceded by M (Mana), S(Stamina) or HP (Hit Points)
    SC - Spell Channeling
    SDI - Spell Damage Increase
    SR - Stamina Regeneration
    SSI - Swing Speed Increase
    UBWS - Use Best Weapon Skill
    Safety Tips for Conducting In-Game Business

    1. First and foremost. If someone offers you a trade that is too good to be true, most likely it is. Scammers will often prey on the greed of their victims in hopes of lulling them into a incautious state with the desire to make such a good deal.
    2. Always Check the Window Contents = No matter how many times the trade window is opened and closed. Do it every single time. Don't feel rushed. If the other party is trying to get you to hurry when you are checking it, don't. Often times scammers will try to pressure you to just click and seal the transaction.
    3. Always ask them to open backpacks to make sure the right items are inside. When possible ask them to take items out of the bag.
    4. Always check items by clicking them and paying attention to the title. There are many rares and such in the came that look similar to common items. Even if you checked it the first time, if the window is closed and you have to reopen it.. check it #2 as well.
    5. Double check the 0's. This can be tricky as they tend the 0's can blend together, especially if you have a lot to look through. If it is a deal for multiple items, try to break the deal down into smaller transactions if you have a hard time with the 0's. With commas now in place, this should be something to worry less about. However, it is always best to double check, for the eyes can play tricks!
    6. Never remove any clothing, wearables, weapons, spellbooks, etc after a trade until you check your item count. Usually you can do this by single clicking on your backpack and seeing how many items you are carrying. The items in your paperdoll, often do *not* apply to your item count. So if you have 125 items in your bag and you take something off, guess what.. it can fall to the ground. It is a common tactic of scammers to attempt this by offering you something to 'try on', asking if they can see something in the trade window from your paperdoll, or asking you to put something on your character so they can see it and thus removing something else to do so. These are usually attempted after a trade, asking you to hold something for them, etc... so please be careful.
     
    #1 Petra Fyde, May 11, 2010
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2012
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