Training has been going a little slow with the 5 packies, right now I'm working a bit on the blue beetle - I GMd their resist using spectral spellbinders (worked great!) and get pretty good gains from gamans for tactics, tho wrassle and anat are moving slow. I was wondering, since this character doesnt' have disco, if I could attack the satyr with the beetle, run off when it's discod, and then maybe kill shadow wisps in the wield? Seems a little convoluted and the wisps might be a bit low to help with skills. Another option is to dig up a shadow elemental, get a second account up and running and disco it, then just attack the elemental with the beetle. I figure with it disco'd it wont be too tough to have to keep vetting the beetle (or packies if this works well.) Something I noticed is that since I'm not guilded you can have your pet attack your character or other pets and no damage will be done - does this mean also they wont get gains? Cause I could probably have them attack each other on fel, but of course it would be much easier if I didn't have to constantly vet. Any other ideas are appreciated, pet training is slow!