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tree stump and gem cart

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lorddog, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Lorddog

    Lorddog Crazed Zealot
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    it didnt do this for me before but i think it now when it overflows the items go to the floor of the house and lock themselves down. when did this start?

    Lorddog
     
  2. jaraxlebaenrae

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    the tree stump actually does something?
     
  3. Kas Althume

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    Isn't it supposed to spawn random logs? ;)
     
  4. Lorddog

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    yes each day u get 10 random logs/day in it up to a max 100? until you take them out. same for gem/ore cart.

    i was just puzzled to see gems and logs sitting next to mine locked down.

    Lorddog
     
  5. Tazar

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    Mine have not done that... do you have a friend or co-owner helping out?
     
  6. They were "spawned" from a "locked down"(anchored) state ... yes?
    ie. not a mob?

    :gee:
     
  7. Dermott of LS

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    I have 1 stump and 22 ore carts and have not seen any of them act in this manner, they just hit the 100 mark and stop... same with other items like the beehive at 10 jars and the rose of Trinsic at 10 petals.
     
  8. Black Sun

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    Yeah, mine have never done that either. I would have noticed it because I usually only remember to check them about once a month when they're way over their limit.
     
  9. Lorddog

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    ok guess someone friended must have gotten them and locked them down for me. :)
     
  10. popps

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    "Way over the limit" ?

    You got me confused......

    Is there a limit at 100 and they stop piling up or there is a 100 limit but they keep piling up "over the limit" past that 100 limit (i.e. one can see 101, 102, 103, 104 etc quantities piling up) ?
     
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    At 100 they stop accumulating resources until they are harvested to have less than 100. So any days at 10, 100, etc will simply not add any more and be wasted.
     
  12. popps

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    It is the "way over the limit" that got me confused....

    If 100, as you say, is a hard limit, and yet, it is possible not just to have gems/ore go "over" the limit, but "way" over the limit, too, then, I seem to understand, 100 must not really be a hard limit but it can be surpassed and have gems/ore keep piling up, somehow, past 100.

    Can someone please clarify my confusion ?

    Thanks.
     
  13. Lorax_Pacific

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    There is a bucket that can hold 100 marbles. Someone fills the bucket each day with ten marbles. When they reach 100 marbles they stop and won't overflow the marble bucket nor put any amount of marbles into the bucket until someone else takes at least 10 marbles out. If the bucket reaches 100 marbles again the waiting repeats in a do while loop looking for less than 100.

    -Lorax
     
  14. Hunters' Moon

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    What is the chance for the ore cart to spawn the higher ores? Even odds? If so,do you even bother keeping mining on any of your characters?

    Edit:percent chance to have Valorite and Verite to spawn in the ore cart is greater than actually going out and mining and finding the ore yourself?
     
  15. popps

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    But if someone takes anything out of the bucket before it ever fills, the bucket, as I see it, simply will never see its limit. That is, no "overflow" is possible because before the bucket fills up some is taken out so that more can get into it.

    To my understanding, overflow is like "spilling", like filling up a bucket with water till it fills up and continue after and therefore, see the water "overflow" the edges of the bucket spilling out on the floor.

    That's how I understood "way over the limit", exceeding the limit and overflow out of the container.
     
  16. they definitely don't spill out and get locked down, someone must have done it for you.

    just like most of these add-ons, they stop spawning if they are full. in this case, when the logs reach 100, they will stop spawning each day; however, if a player takes the logs out before another 10 spawn, they will keep spawning.

    i don't see why this is so complicated.
     
  17. Black Sun

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    I check mine once a month. If it continued generating resources I would have nearly 400 longs instead of 100. Hence way over the limit.

    Just like everyone has already said, when you hit 100, it stops producing.
     
  18. Dermott of LS

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    What is the chance for the ore cart to spawn the higher ores? Even odds? If so,do you even bother keeping mining on any of your characters?

    Seems to be pretty even across all ore types, I have yet to smelt any of the ore I have obtained from my carts (which started with one, then bumped up to 16 or 18, now sits at 22), so you can see exactly the distribution of ore since the carts were introduced in the pic below.

    [​IMG]

    Yes I still have a miner that actively mines because the carts are only good for 10 large ore a day, so 220 a day, a number which is surpassed where I mine in Fel within the first 5 minutes or so.

    As it is, I use most of the metal I mine up to fill BODs, so I use a LOT more Copper and below than I do the upper metals (especially to fill PoF deeds) just by the nature of the system, so while the bump in ore is nice from the carts, in no way (even with 22 of them), do they replace mining.
     
  19. Hunters' Moon

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    Looking at the pic you gave makes me feel disheartened. If I,myself, mined up 9680 regular ore,there's no way I would even begin to approach 9320 large valorite ore. Not to mention the other ores of equal or greater amounts.

    Don't get me wrong. I am not hating the player(you). I am hating the game that allows ore carts to far outstrip actual mining. This is a vet reward,correct? I was under the impression that vet rewards wern't meant to unbalance the game. I am sure you,and others,will reply and say it doesn't. I'll just have to disagree preemptivly.
     
  20. Dermott of LS

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    If you think mining has it bad, then don't even think about lumberjacking. At least mining is able to bump a resource spot one or two levels. Lumberjacking doesn't even have that making the stump even more necessary than the ore carts.

    However as a balance, the only reason you're seeing 9k large ore stacks is because I've had those carts producing for over a year, and you can get MUCH more verite and valorite in that timeframe mining than the carts can produce.