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Turkey Nests rarer items ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Nov 25, 2009.

  1. popps

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    I have done quite a few Maps and so far got a bunch of feathers and Cornucopia.

    Not sure what I will do with all of them.......

    Anyways, got some nests (like 3 or 4) and that's it.

    Most bags were only 2 items (gold and a feather) and nothing from breaking the eggs.

    How many Maps one has to do to get these ?

    - Stuffing
    - Plucked turkeys
    - Harrow

    Thanks.
     
  2. DevilsOwn

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    luck of the draw...... bending to the will of the Lady

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  3. How many threads on the same subject are you going to start? Maybe you should actually try reading the one thread that has all of the information instead of making 418465654654651656541 of your own.
     
  4. Endrik

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    Well lets put it this way... I have done over 250 nests now. So far I have...

    2 Harrows
    5 Stuffing
    10 Nests
    100+ Cornucopias

    I have never gotten a single thing from breaking eggs. I average about 2 breakable eggs per nest. This means that I have gotten nothing after breaking over 500 eggs.
     
  5. Potgut

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    She's kind of hot.
     
  6. Mephistos

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    This picture totally cracked me up... :)
     
  7. One nest with all three breakable eggs re-spawned a giant turkey for me.
    Killed it.
    Nothing special about it.
    Nothing special on it.
     
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    The first thing I thought when I seen that pic.. was Tattoo...lol.. I am an Ink addict...lol
     
  9. popps

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    Got no Plucked turkeys over 250 Maps ?

    WOW

    I wonder why I got several nests, though..... You averaged 1/25 Maps and I got like 3 or 4 over about 20-25 Maps.

    Go figure.......
     
  10. popps

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    Different topic, though.....

    As in regards the rarity info, I read the existing threads but could only find 1 or 2 references. And they were few days old.

    Was wondering whether now, days after, more people had better info on the rarity of drops.
     
  11. Sumadyan

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    I did close to 100 maps already,
    Got 26 cornucopias
    3 nests
    Bunch of feathers

    And nothing else...

    All the stuff I got from the bag in the nest, never got anything from breaking the eggs just a few turkeys pop up.

    Also never got any special loot off the turkeys either.
     
  12. Lissa Eldi

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    Around 110 maps:

    25 cornucopia
    4 nests
    7 stuffing
    1 plucked turkey from breaking an egg
    0 harrows, although a good friend gave me one

    I look at the items in the bag first hehe. If it has two its just a feather and gold, three adds a cornucopia, four means a cornucopia and another item. So far anytime I've gotten one of the rarer items I've also gotten a cornucopia in the same bag.
     
  13. popps

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    By the way, has anyone been able to stack together Cornucopias ?

    Feathers stack easily but so far I have been unable to stack Cornucopias. Can they ?

    As far as breaking the eggs, I just hatched a Giant Turkey to spawn.

    Nothing for me though......... :(
     
  14. SchezwanBeefy

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    I have done about 20 nests and I got a harrow on the second shot, two stuffings after 3 days of double clicking my cornucopias, a corn stalk, two ciders and 1 lavender win. Really want a nest but none seem to be dropping. I need to keep on it! T_T
    Does anyone know when the turkeys will go away? I really want that nest...
    Oh, and you technically want 2 plucked turkeys, one for the turkey itself and one to turn into the butcher for the new Harvester's blade.
     
  15. SchezwanBeefy

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    Uh, no, they're rechargeable items so why would you think you could stack them? :confused:
     
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    1 gold
    2 feather
    3 cornucopia
    4 stuffing
    5 nest
    6 bird for turning in
    7 harrower

    those are the rarity orders as far as I am seeing and i have done well over 100 maps probably close to 200
    the stuffing ,nests are close to the same rarity
    corn stalks i did not count as they are from cornucopia and so eventually will not be rare!
     
  17. Sarsmi

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    You can get stuffing from the cornucopia as well.
     
  18. MalagAste

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    I"ve done at least a hundred nests....

    So far I have 40 or so of the cornucopias
    1 plucked turkey
    1 stuffing
    0 Harrow's
    4 nests
    and a bunch of feathers.
     
  19. popps

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    Wow, now this is really bad luck....

    Got a Nest with only 2 items in the bag (gold and feather) AND all of the 3 eggs were non-mutant !!!

    Can it get any worse ?

    Edit. Yes, just got again, twice in a row........
    Bag with 2 items (gold and feather) and all 3 eggs non-mutant twice in a row. Wow, either statistics has some mysterious ways or the Randon generator is way, but way too streaky.........

    Do I recall right that some fix was being done to the Random Generator?

    The sooner the better.........
     
  20. Nah, the Devs are just out to get you.:eyes:
     
  21. ACB1961

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    Sure, it can always get worse.

    Here's how. I'd done 5-6 with nothing but a feather and gold. They took a good while to find too. I was just about to dig the chest up. I mean I was on the very spot. Then, 2 other people come up and the chest comes up. They got the 4 items. Now, thats cool. Its fine if someone else gets the good stuff now and then.

    But, then the guy says. "Now, use the thing on it again." Girl says "I did. It's not working."

    I'm standing there so I say "That's not working any more. They fixed it."

    Guy says "Bummer." "I got 100 cornucopia's last night doing it."

    Not only did I lose a 4 item one, but it was to 2 exploiters...
     
  22. SchezwanBeefy

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    Um, popps, way to complain but I think it's more rare to get a mutant turkey than to not get one. It is normal for you to only get the feathers and the gold and no other item. That's why they are rare.
    It could be worse and the turkeys could be aggressive and kick your ass every time they spring up.
    Also, can someone explain the turkey nest exploit now that it was fixed? I'm just curious as to how and what they were doing.
     
  23. Harlequin

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    From what I have gotten, I'm guessing chances for the plucked turkey are apprx 1 in 50 maps (I mentioned this in your other thread as well). Same with harrow and stuffing.

    I don't have enough data to be certain though, so my numbers may be off.
     
  24. Fink

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    The random number generator is.. random. If it produced predictable results it wouldn't be random. If you have a 1 in 100 chance of something and you keep failing, it doesn't mean on the 100th try you're guaranteed to succeed.
     
  25. SchezwanBeefy

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    Well said, Fink. Enough with the belly aching over the RNG. It's just that... random. There is no predictability to it.
     
  26. popps

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    I see it hard to "use the thing on it again" when the Map vanishes after the nest popps up...... No Map = no Nest any longer.......
     
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    The problem is not the unpredictability of the Random Generator.

    The real problem is the streakiness of it which many players have reported over the years.

    And, the way I see it, streakiness makes it for "some" predictability.

    Infact, some players once they see a bad streak cease that activity and resume it only after sometime or next server up from maintainance.

    This is what is not right, IMHO, and what should be absolutely fixed. The streakiness of the Random Generator.
     
  28. Salya Sin

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    For the record... you can get plucked turkeys from the Cornucopia. I got two last night... about 6 ciders and one harvest. I also received 9 cornucopias, one stuffing, and one nest from the maps. All total... I did 11 or 12 maps last night.

    Maybe the RNG felt bad for me? I had previously done about 20 and received a couple of Cornucopias and one stuffing. It was a good night!
     
  29. aoLOLita

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    I've only done 12 maps ::: well, I tagged along as my buddy Riel actually led me to the right spots and got the following:

    12 feathers
    7 cornucopias
    2 stuffings

    On turkey kills: (Minimal damage by a Thrower-in-Training)

    2 cornucopias dropped in pack in lieu of maps/frags
    1 Plucked turkey on corpse

    In Cornucopias: ( 110ish items)
    1 harvest cider
    2 wines
    1 corn stalk
     
  30. ACB1961

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    Are you really so stupid that you correct people when you don't have a clue what you are talking about?

    I don't believe you are.

    I think you say things like that to cause conflict.

    I think conflict is what you seek. Not honest answers to your questions or help in playing uo.

    I get a lot of hatred here too. I get it because I'm sort of arrogant I guess. its a character flaw. I'm working on it...

    I'll explain this so you cannot misunderstand it on purpose or not on purpose.

    Your question was can this get any worse?

    I provided you with an example of how it could be worse. That's all. I didn't need you to explain something to me in a rude fashion that you did not understand at all.

    The first night the maps came out there was an exploit. People used it to do a map as many times as they wanted. They could do the same map over and over very easily. Then, the next day the dev team was told of the exploit. They rushed a fix for it, and it stopped working. That's why you couldn't sell cornucopias the first night. I wondered why, but I don't think in terms of exploiting so I just went about my normal business.
     
  31. dielock

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    Where did you you get that picture of my Mother-in-Law?
     
  32. spamspamspamspam

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    I'm sure the answer to this is somewhere that I couldn't find, but where do you get the quest to turn in the plucked turkey for the blade?

    Mucho thanks!
     
  33. Bobar

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    No quest needed just find a Butcher and drop the plucked bird on him alttho I have heard that not all butchers work.
     
  34. Nah, you're mistaken. That's my ex-wife.
     
  35. Harb

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    Well popps I wanted to push hard enough to get a harrow before responding, but am about to say the hell with this, so I figured I'd provide what I have experienced. I have 172 feathers, but lost track of actual maps along the way. No more than 10% of the feathers came from deceased birds, so lets say I've done around 155 maps. From these, I obtained 0 harrows, 3 nests, and 10 stuffings (all from nest bags, none from inside cornucopias). I've also gotten 8 plucked birds, none of which came from a nest bag directly. I have 63 cornucopias, somewhere between 25 and 30% of which have popped directly into my backpack (playing with 1720 luck, I'm not sure if it played a factor or not). So 45-50ish of the cornucopias likely came from nest bags. If my results are a "true" indication of spawn probability, which may or may not be the case, figure no more than a 1% chance of a harrow, about a 2% chance of a nest, a little higher for a stuffing ("maybe higher;" from other posts nests and stuffing %s may be the same), and around 33% for a cornucopia. We all are suspicious of the RNG, moreso after Draconi let the cat out of the bag that dev had determined something wrong with it, so it's hard to say if I'm simply unlucky or if this is par for the course.

    I don't want to rant/ whine/ complain, but I do feel like dev missed the ball on this one, particularly frustrating following a very well done Halloween event. In the former, you could accurately forcast effort to desired result, and it played well. The Thanksgiving event, while an innovative and enjoyable process (up to a point), relied on luck on the RNG, again the latter of which is known to be flawed. IMO, whoever decided to put a 1% on anything, considering the RNG, erred in judgement. I know I'm frustrated and now borderline irritated, and doubt I'm alone.

    Hope that helps and sorry for being so late.
     
  36. Salya Sin

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    I've done maybe... 25-30 maps... I've gotten too many cornucopias... several from killing the Turkey (instead of a map) but I also have gotten everything you can get. The harrow... which I didn't think I'd get... came last night and I only did one map. I managed to get one nest from the map... but the rest came from the cornucopias... Two Stuffed Turkeys, Two Stuffings, and 3 corn stalks. I've gotten about 9 bottles of Cider and 6 harvest wines. Honestly... the RNG usually hates me...

    I actually have a theory on the Harrow... the one I got.. was from a map I had not received before... maybe it is a matter of how many times an area is hit. I had duplicate maps drop several times and I just stood in a spot and waited for it to reset. A couple of times the nest was out when I got there and I had to wait for it to reset. On all those occasions... I never got more than a feather and gold. Sooo... maybe the nest itself sets the drops. Might be way off... but the times I had different maps... ones that I only hit once... or had not hit before... that was when I got the better drops.
     
  37. Harb

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    I hear you, pretty much a constant for me on the downside, 155 maps and 0 harrows just the latest example :) Every time I receive an odd map, I "hope" along the lines of your observation, that location might help. For me, nope. If by design it has anything to do with frequency throughout a given shard, I'd be quite angry to be honest, all that would do is penalize busier shards. On the subject of the RNG, I once went 14 consecutive maps with only gold and feathers, and was fuming. Then in a reverse fluke, got 4 stuffings from a set of 5 maps, almost half of all I've received. Whatever it is that's wrong with the RNG, it's in dire need of a fix! Other posters above and in other threads have also had much better luck than I on the harrow, but I'm still pretty sure its only set for about 1%, not just based on my run of luck, but others I talk with on Chessie seeing similar results. I'm even checking vendors twice daily to see if someone puts one out, as of yet, I haven't even seen one for sale!
     
  38. Endrik

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    I hav not been able to do many maps the past few days, but I have done well over 250 maps so far. I have 3 Harrows, so I think the 1% chance is pretty accurate.

    I also have over 100 cornucopias now, and after empying ALL of them I have 12 corn stalks, no stuffing and no plucked turkeys. Can you really get those from the cornucopia or is that just hearsay?
     
  39. Harb

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    Between us Endrik thats over 400 maps, seems safe to assume invalid rumor only (though it may have happened on test), I've seen neither as well.
     
  40. ACB1961

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    With the three of us its over 600 without one. but there's just no telling what the deal is. RNG is the real enemy in uo.
     
  41. Theo_GL

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    Interesting.

    So I guess the RNG is my friend this week.

    I did 3 maps and got nothing special. I wanted a Harvester's Blade but couldn't find anyone selling one or the plucked turkey on GL.

    So I found 6 maps for sale at 20k each.

    Did 3 nests and got 2 plucked turkeys. Winner!

    I have 3 more to go but having problems finding the location. Anyone have a list of locations/maps? 2 of the 3 are the same if I could just find the location lol...
     
  42. shanshu

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    I've done about 40 maps and have gotten:

    Nests - 1
    Cornucopia - too many to count
    Stuffing - 1
    Feathers - 40
    Plucked Bird - 2 (looted these off Turkey corpse)

    Hatched Turkeys - 2
    Loot from broken eggs - 0
     
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    What time on the 29th will this all end?

    Will the brush be available and maps still work after the 29th?

    Will unused fragments and maps disappear after the 29th?
     
  44. FrejaSP

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    No wonder she went crazy if she was your wife :mf_prop:
     
  45. You've got that backwards, but eh, such is ignorance.:twak:
     
  46. FrejaSP

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    Now careful, I'm not your wife. *Show fangs*
     
  47. Thank you?

    :fight:
     
  48. FrejaSP

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    No I'm the one saying thank you *Lich lips*
     
  49. Well, as long as it's mutual, we're all good. :party:
     
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    We had something similar happen. We were having terrible luck - several days of nothing but feathers, gold and a handful of cornucpuias. Then I received one plucked turkey on a corpse and two from destroying eggs all within 10 minutes of each other.