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Un-attended macroing-MESANA LOOK !!

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Spyderis, Feb 5, 2012.

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  1. Spyderis

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    I caught a person macroing and wasnt there while doing so..i paged a GM, provided, Name and location..reply was thnx for the report but they have no target..hrm so why even bother w/ in game cheats? Ya ill get major slack for this post..Im just an honest player who wants an even playing field..:cursing:

    maybe its time to close accounts and move on..
     
  2. Flutter

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    Or maybe you should target the character like it asks you to?:dunce:
     
  3. Symma

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    lol a sunday afternoon... not sure Mesanna will be around to do anything :p
     
  4. Jade of Sonoma

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    - - Or maybe Spyderis doesn't know HOW to target a character?

    I can remember not knowing how,
    then finally learned how,
    but haven't done it for so long,
    I've forgotten how, now.

    - - so perhaps, please, could someone explain HOW?

    *then I'll learn HOW now too*

    :lol:
     
  5. Sevin0oo0

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    SuperBowl Sunday at that!
     
  6. aarons6

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    maybe this guy was there and replied to the gm's message..

    just cause someone doesnt want to talk to you when you bug them doesnt mean they are afk.
     
  7. xblade

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    how do you know they are cheating?!?!?!?!?..... you wouldnt unless you have done it before :)
     
  8. Sevin0oo0

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    I've only reported unattended once, i stood right there and waited so there'd be no question who. Guess the first question asked by the GM that showed up? "this the guy?" was during the original TOK event. GM took the guy out.
    If another player asks if I'm there, i Never answer, then we can go into that stare-down contest to see who poofs first
     
  9. Warpig Inc

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    When your strip mining a cave and can nearly set a watch to their recall. Gave a report with 20 second time blocks when they would show. GM showed little early to talk to me and like magic the scripter showed up as predicted. Without a word the GM snatched them up by the shorthairs and both vannished. Junk gear recalling 5 spaces and no firebeetle is a no brainer.
     
  10. Flutter

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    You have to open a page under "another player is harassing me" and then type your complaint in. After that it will ask you if you wish to target the player or type the players name in. Since there could be multiple characters with the name "Bob" targeting the player is your best bet. When you select that option a targeting cursor automatically comes up.
    Do keep in mind not everyone macroing is doing so afk. I cannot count the number of times I have been making potions and had someone page on me.
    Once a GM came and asked me what color my hair was, I didn't know if he meant irl or in the game HAHAHA so it threw me for a second and the GM actually had to ask me again LOL
    Just because someone doesn't answer you, or seems to be doing something rhythmically, doesn't mean he(or she) is not sitting right there.
     
  11. Jade of Sonoma

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    Thanks FLutter!

    Re: Do keep in mind not everyone macroing is doing so afk. << how very CORRECT!! There are certain players that cannot be tolerated in this game too who are very obvious. Now I remember what I was doing. I had the information window typed and ready to submit, and the "target" up and ready on my mouse while hunting for and waiting to target naked female characters who were showing up in cities, soliciting players to a website. GMs got on top of those fast.
     
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    LOL!!!!!!
     
  14. Heartseeker

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    This!!!!...

    It's amazing how many people can't mind their own business.
     
  15. startle

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    Er, sn*tch...

    Just sayin.......
    :eyes:
     
  16. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Thanks for trying anyway.

    It never ceases to amaze me how many folks try to paint people like you AS the bad person in this situation. Or they try to act like there are no scripters nor afk macro'ers. Don't let them discourage ya tho, keep on doing what you are doing. They don't answer, so be it.... Report 'em all, let the GM's sort it out :D

    *edit*

    Good place to go Yomatsu mines at the entrance. Usually a person or two there afk training pets on Shadow elle's. I go there on my stealther often just to report the ones who seem to be afk.
     
  17. Carharrt

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    Do you even try to talk to them? Or do ya just help to clog the already slow GM response time by assuming they are afk?
     
  18. Flutter

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    How do you tell they are afk?
    I am often there training my pet, watching television, not answering anyone who happens along. Doesn't mean I'm afk.
     
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    WOW....."I go there on my stealther often just to report the ones who seem to be afk."?????

    Is there nothing else in the game you could be doing? You sound like an old women calling the police because of the sinister teenagers riding their skateboards on the sidewalk.

    Find something else to do than paging a GM on a person.
     
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    i kinda wish the gms banned the people doing the reporting.
     
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    This
     
  22. Kylie Kinslayer

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    Spoken like a person who is a fan of what is being reported on.

    How do I know they are afk? Well I stealth in, hang out for 15-20 minutes and observe what is going on. It is NOT difficult to tell when someone is possibly scripting, or afk macro'ing. Anyone who tries to argue that it is impossible to tell if someone is doing either are usually a proponenet of scripting and afk training.

    All that is required to report someone of being afk macro'ing is the thought they are possibly doing so. You do not need to know it for a fact, there is no way for a player to know that 100%. That is what the GM review is for. It's their call to make. If you are one of them that is actually at the keyboard but are too stuck up, busy doing something else, or just dont feel like talking and do not answer then you run the risk of having a gm paged on you *shrugs*... NOT a big deal if that is the case. GM shows up and you answer them, situation taken care of.
     
  23. Lightfoot

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    Wait. Are you saying if I disagree with you I must be a scripter? If you will rethink that comment I suspect you will agree it does not express your true beliefs. In fact, it is logically impossible to tell if someone is afk, just as it is impossible to know what someone else is thinking.

    Perhaps there are better uses of one's time than griefing.
     
  24. Kylie Kinslayer

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    No, I was just saying that is usually the case is all. Not that it was the case 100% of the time.
     
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    I will purposely not talk to someone looking for afkers, in the hopes they page a gm on me. I then do everything I can to get the reporters account flagged for harrassment. Have been able to do it many times now.

    So be careful doing it on my shards. I WILL bait you, just to get slimes like that banned or flagged for harrassment. Misuse of the GM page does and will get your account flagged.

    Macroing does not mean AFK.

    :devil:

    :drama:
     
  26. el_sistema

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    Scripting and macro'ing only? Since you're jumping ahead on assumptions why not report on harassing other players or using other illegal third-party programs.

    At the end of it all you're just guessing and passing judgement on a possibly innocent player. If it makes you feel superior having someone logged out by a GM, then have fun. I am sure you can get a new skill created by the devs in no time.
     
  27. Lightfoot

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    :thumbsup:
    Really? How do you know that? Have you a special ability to read minds? What technique do you use to know someone is cheating? How do you know this is usually the case?

    I suspect you have little to no extra-sensory skills and are just pulling this "fact" from thin air. Why? Not being able to read minds, I shall not speculate as to your motive.

    Personally, I choose to believe, without evidence, that everyone I meet in Trammel is playing fairly. And if I have a suspicion about someone in Fel, I try to kill them. That usually sorts things out pretty quickly. But that's just me.
     
  28. Jade of Sonoma

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    Ah YES! .. many "thou protests too much" types replying to this thread - - as Kylie Kinslayer so aptly observed, "Spoken like a person who is a fan of what is being reported on." :)

    So back on topic .. let the GM's sort it out and Do report those advertising Websites. I have recently seen characters pop up in cities and towns with their website as their name - plus an advertising spiel. They don't stay long enough to be targeted.

    Still if EA doesn't do something about it and they haven't, why should everyone do the work for them? Players do pay to play a game and thus do have better things to do than hang around making reports to the GM. On the other hand, those reports could be of help improving the game even if ONE out of a HUNDRED or more macroers are caught unattended, it might be worth the trouble of reporting them.

    In any case, Since there are always more than two sides to the coin, at least read what others write, say your piece, and stop putting down and pulling everyone who posts to pieces.

    - - goes back to putting out fires - - oh I am Venerated .. what :next: - - or is that it? Should I start on a new city with a new character? :confused: Don't think I can go through all that again ... so back to - - ??? ah - yes - Real Life!!!
     
  29. UWstudent

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    I too pay to play this game the way I want within the ToS, and if I don't feel obligated to answer other players "Hey, are you there" while training, or resource gathering than I won't. However, when I get pulled away by a gm because I didn't feel like socializing with you, expect to get a Harrassment page in return.
     
  30. Jade of Sonoma

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    How hard is it to stop and say hello? Especially if the player persists in waiting for an answer? If you are willing to spend the time to place a harrassment charge after a GM shows up, perhaps you need to reconsider what you are doing.

    Wouldn't it be quicker to stop for a moment and to say hello and NOT waste the Player's time, the GM's time, and YOUR TIME too. :twak: Say something to let anyone interested that you aren't an unattended macroer. Seriously, how hard is that and just how many players care enough to bother to ask if you are THERE?

    .. :fight:

    ..now back to real life ..
     
  31. Lightfoot

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    Oh Jade that's too funny. He could save even more time by ignoring you. That's even easier. And you could also save time by not pestering people who are busy.

    Who made you the Enforcer? Why is any of this your business? Not wanting to socialize is not yet a crime.
     
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    I generally just steal everything in their pack/disarm/DP them and if they don't chase me, I page. bonus points for when they start auto chugging pots as i poison them repeatedly. (i think my record is burning through about 30 cure pots someone had on them, would have gone higher but they ran out :/)

    It's also fun to find gold scripters and steal their bandages, watch them get slowly beat up by orcs or daemons (which also means i get to loot them but dont get a murder count :D), i got SOOO many bags of sending from doing this I still havent run out to this day, i've literally never bought a bag of sending on siege and i use them all the time. Also gotten a ton of faction silver in the past like this.
     
  33. Perma Fried

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    UO/UHall never changes.

    A handful of honest people who are fed up with cheaters getting ridiculed and told to mind their own business by a dozen or more cheaters who claim to not cheat, but yet take their time to harrass anyone who points out that cheating does occur.

    I wouldn't care if people page on me 24/7, because I'm always attended and always enjoy any chance to converse with one of those mystery men/women in the red robes.
     
  34. Flutter

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    While I follow you and understand what you're saying, please keep in mind that for me personally, if I am training a pet or doing some other tedious activity it means that I am unable (at that time) to socialize. While I may be at the computer, I may also be on the phone, making appointments, or caring for a sick person, or some other activity that makes it a hassel for me to answer a would-be UO policer. (Maybe I'm just watching a movie)
    Yes I am at the computer, watching my character, not afk... But no, I may not be able to have a conversation with someone, answer them right away, or even feel the need to justify my actions (dependent on who is doing the bugging). If someone comes along and wants to use the shadow ele too and says something polite like "mind if I..." that person also has a bigger chance of getting a response out of me. Not only do I know they're not there to chat, but I also don't feel policed.

    If I had time to chat and socialize, I'd be doing something else with my guild or alliance and not doing the tedious macroing type activities this game requires to be able to play (ie: pet training, pot making, ingot gathering).

    I think this applies to more than just myself.
     
  35. MalagAste

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    I could argue both sides of the coin here.

    Sometimes when I'm at the mines training my pet I'm working very hard to keep the pet alive .... especially if it's a not so great pet... I don't have time to stop and say hello that would cause my pet to die. Fat lot of good that would do me!

    But on the other hand... If I see a scripter macroing getting bods or something I do page. Why? Because I feel it's bad for the economy. Scum like that need to get off their lazy heiny and fill those bods by hand just like the rest of us poor working stiffs...

    Same with mining and lumberjacking. Why should they get all the money and profit from the game? They do this to make a living instead of getting a real job... scum like that deserve to have their income taken... they are half responsible for the state of the economy as it is.

    Not to mention the 100's of things put into the game by the DEV's to stop and curb such things is a waste of DEV time... if we can make it unprofitable for them to sell their wares then perhaps they will move on and ruin some other game. And not to mention its because of them that now whenever you want to build a nice verite stone table you may as well spend a week trying to mine enough verite stone .... because with the now random spawn its nearly impossible to mine for decent amounts of stone. EVER think of that?

    So yes I do take the time to report on them. And I've NEVER gotten a mark on my account for paging on someone.

    Afterall I'm just a player who has a love of the game and I do care about it.
     
  36. Lightfoot

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    Newspeak. Griefers are honest! The innocent are cheaters! We can read your mind and don't dare disagree! Yes, visitors to UHall never change.
     
  37. Jade of Sonoma

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    Yes Flutter. It applies very much to myself also.
    There are many sides to this and you have nicely explained yours side, as has MaLagAste (how came you by that interesting name?)

    My side is that I play solo because I don't want others relying on my being available as I can be called away from the game by real life, in a second's notice and leave my Pet to die and other players to die and wouldn't respond If and when I am doing something that gets the attention of others who think I might be macroing. If I can, I will always stop what I am doing to reply.
     
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    Thanks for that level headed post, Perma Fried.
    Very nicely put! :thumbup::banana::thumbsup:

    Flutter: :fight: I forgot to add that in the past 14 years I have even left my character to die in dangerous places on a few occasions because something needed my immediate attention in real life. Once it was a smoke alarm going off. I don't play dangerous places unless I expect I can stay focused on the game for a while.

    - - ok sunshine and beautiful blue sky out there is calling me to walk the Beach - look for agates - take pictures - paint pictures .. *waves* Have a great day everyone!
     
  41. Black Sun

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    If you see a scripter, page on them and let EA do their thing.
    Coming here and posting about it is roughly as effective as trying to put out a forest fire with a squirt gun.
     
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