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[UO Herald] FoF: Party On

Discussion in 'UHall' started by _zigzag_, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. _zigzag_

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    Publish 56 bugfixes, upcoming faction stuff, and more!

    To read the rest of this article, click here.



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  2. kelmo

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    Evil Ernie kinda freaks me out. That is a good thing I suppose.
     
  3. _zigzag_

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    hehe...let me find the rest of ernies crew...you'll understand.

    By the way folks, the new rss feed for the UO Herald is set up to auto post here to UHall. It's checked every ten minutes, so we'll have up-to-date newses for all our UHallers :)

    Thanks again to Jeremy and Cat - and anyone else who had a hand in this - for making it happen :D
     
  4. envinyatar

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    Huge blow for all those vamp form Dexxers out there that don't have real skill... OUCH.
     
  5. Duku

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    My dear Vamp.... Little my friend... Goodbye...

    I Hope some nerf will be given also to tamers :)
     
  6. UltimaSword

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    Like if you take off plus jewels from a tamer the pet becomes unbonded? Not unreasonable.
     
  7. Tina Small

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    Jeremy, can you please clarify a couple of things about the new faction items that will be character-bound:

    • Will they be faction-blessed or will they need to be insured?
    • Will they be hued for the faction you join?
    • If you leave that faction and join another one and gain sufficient rank, can you wear the item again or will it only work for that character if it is in the same faction as when the item was purchased?
    • Will the item be usable by that character if it transfers between shards, rejoins factions (same or different one?), and once again earns sufficient rank to equip it?
     
  8. Duku

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    Not that. About tamer powers: as a dexter now can face a boss quite improbably, it should be the same for tamer: loweren their strenght (even in pvp could be nice)
     
  9. UltimaSword

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    My dexxer could take all doom bosses but the dark father and I never used necromancy forms. Now as for peerless thats a different story.
     
  10. Capricious

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    Any info/tidbits on Halloween?
     
  11. Petra Fyde

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    The list of items that will stack included smoke bombs, but not egg bombs. Although they serve the same purpose they are made differently and the game sees them as different items, I hope egg bombs will stack too?
     
  12. Sweet! They listened to me about the color blindness and are labeling granite now!

    Woo Hoo!

    *cues piano*

    *does the Snoopy dance*


    That said...

    As far as the changes to Necro that they said they WOULD NOT be doing anything about

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
     
  13. MYUO

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    Those super arties for purchase. Is that a bit too much? Buying artifacts from NPC already crosses the line, let alone super arties.

    Players need a reason to do faction, not necessary need a boost like that.

    Does that mean powergames have to be in faction to compete?
     
  14. MYUO

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    Comparing to the colors of granites, the colors of varies Tokuno minor pigments (the rusty colored ones), holiday bells and statues, corruppted trees, hair dyes, parrots, ankh necklace... are even harder to tell from each other.

    Can we get a label for them? I am sure even Jeremy can code that!
     
  15. Righteous

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    I was very disappointed that there wasn't any mention of the event content that is suppose to come out with Pub 56. Has the event content been postponed until Pub 57?

    Righteous
     
  16. Zym Dragon

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    It might be a bit much, or it might not be. Who's to say that we won't be able to create items that powerful with imbuing?
     
  17. phantus

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    Interesting....faction players will be able to get items that have no equal in the PvE realm. A trend?
     
  18. MYUO

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    I am pretty sure imbuing will come at least a year away from now and its detail is unknown. So for a year, faction owns?
     
  19. phantus

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    Well, hopefully factions will somehow tie in with new content.
     
  20. Restroom Cowboy

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    PWNT!!!! How does that kick in the teeth feel hmm?
     
  21. Nexus

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    Once again they go for the "bait" option while screwing over anyone that doesn't want to be in factions to PvP or do Champ Spawns. Beefed up arties are a BAD idea since they will further put dependence on items in PvP....

    Making them character bound is even worse.
     
  22. FrejaSP

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    More questions
    • Will this items be faction-blessed on Siege? I hope not!!
    • Will the bonus from the items work vs non Factions players too, I hope not!, we don't need more unbalance and players should not be forced to join factions to PvP or survive attack from PK's who join factions to get get more power to use not only in Factions but also vs non factions victims.
     
  23. WWGRD?

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    Do the Dev even know what frigging game they are working on? There are 0 items in game that add to spellweaving. That's just embarrassing.

    No one ever asked for dough to stack. When working cooking, you use dough because it doesn't stack! That means you don't have to drag one off the pile to cook 1 at a time for best gains.

    Jesus, its no wonder people are quitting in droves.
     
  24. Jeremy

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    WWGRD, Soulstones are also a concern - although mostly we just want to be consistent. It makes for better code.

    As for the skill gain thing, that's a valid point - let me make sure QA is looking at that.
     
  25. TheScoundrelRico

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    So will the faction items be stealable (even if not usable by said thief)?...la
     
  26. DHMagicMan_1

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    It was previously mentioned that you'd be fixing the Naturalist's quest and adding the new plants (specifically in White and Black) to that quest but that's not in the 56 Notes that you just posted. Is that still in 56? Have you figured out a mechanism for us to test plant growing on TC since there isn't daily maintance cycles? We're hoping for either a tool that forces growth or a gate we would walk through that forces growth to all plants in the packs we're carrying... Any updates on plant fixes in 56 and testing plans for those fixes would be aprreciated.

    Thanks.
     
  27. MYUO

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    So the players with real skills in those categories will lose the forms if they are discorded? Not saying it is bad, actually I like the change, just a question.
     
  28. UOKaiser

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    I wouldnt worry about anybody using vamp form any more other than rp reasons. No reason to use it now for any template really. Not even necros need it. No more vampires of any kind. Peerless will be dominated by tamers mage bards. Wont see a dexter there anymore. Faction players wont need to buy any arties or even do peerless so that market is gone. Why would players doom hunt then? Man this is gonna be bad for the pvm-merchants community. Gonna trow another bone for this communtity now that pvp community got there bone?
     
  29. Bodhi

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    Honestly i hate the fact they removing the +skill effect... But im glad theres still another template that allows u to solo peerless on dexxer :p So i dont really care.
     
  30. MYUO

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    The skill requirement for the different form spells are exploit fixing. Face it, making sampire template using jewlries/soulstones is cheating and should be stopped.
    As for dexer's role at peerless/doom, the change will make them unable to SOLO the boss.
    For super arties in faction, as I stated in my earlier post, it seems a bit too much unless the purchase prices are extremely high.
     
  31. The Japanese players are gonna be p!ssed off when they hear this. That's their primary template.

    Guess it's time to switch to the wraith form template now and get back to doing exactly what the complainers were complaining about to begin with.

    We can kiss another spell goodbye. Vamp form will be useless to anyone now.
     
  32. Wrong. As was said over and over again, Sampires weren't the only ones soloing bosses.

    Yet once again, no one complains about the Tamers that are doing the same thing. They got the evil dexxers out of the way now, or so they think.
     
  33. UOKaiser

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    Then they should lower the requirements of vampire embrace to be able to be cast whith jolt.
    Yes they wont be able to actualy they still could but its much harder but wont stop the other templates from able to solo the peerless. All I need to do to get my sampire back is to remove high fire ressit item replace it whith extra mana regen and make sure I have high life leach on my wep. Not to mention I can now use cure pots. Though I can just take my tamer now.

    I think the prices for those faction items should be extreamly high as being more expensive than anything anybody can get.
     
  34. The change to forms/skill items do not address any actual complaint and make necro items that are used chiefly for this (like the arms and book) even more redundant.

    People could use skill items for enemy of one, but it isn't even necessary to do that as 100 Necro is easy to build on these templates. So they'll still be able to solo champions/peerless/doom.

    If stopping them from soloing high end stuff isn't the aim of this change then what is? Because it doesn't seem to be achiving it or anything.

    Edit:
    A lot of the peolpe who replied while I was posting said 'this is the end for vampires', it really isn't. There are a lot of different variations on that template the only one I can see this affecting is the bandage version. (which aside from people new to sampires as far as I've seen isn't the prefered one)

    The "fix" is as short sighted as usual, trying to get people to actually use items like midnight bracers on their suits is unrealistic, the book with +10 won't do a vampire much good unless their trying to kill something with wrestling.
     
  35. UltimaSword

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    You know whats funny? I was about to make a sampire LOL. Oh well. My mage can solo all doom bosses but the dark father. My bard can solo all doom bosses. I haven't tried soloing with my tamer but I bet he can with a Gdragon all the bosses except the dark father. As for peerless I never attempted to solo em.
     
  36. The_Dude_

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    Even if you set those arties really high those addons they are giving for those arties are freaking disgusting. 3 mr on a orny 10 more dci more resists. Give me a break. Hope you all gave yourself a pat on the back for this kind of thinking.
     
  37. Restroom Cowboy

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    This has to be one of the most ignorant comments I have read so far today.
     
  38. Funny, I could say the same about yours. :lick:
     
  39. Restroom Cowboy

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    Let me explain why I said this....

    1) this spell was useful long before the advent of sampires
    2) this spell will be useful long after the advent of sampires
    3) your statement was based entirely on one template but yet you attempted to blanket the spells usefulness to all templates

    BTW...if you could say the same about mine...you should have done so. :)
     
  40. Basara

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    If the tamers were doing "the same thing", you'd have a point, Connor. They aren't, and you don't.

    BTW, I've seen plenty of tamers lose their pets from jewelry not equipped when they thought it was.

    They're not piling on 70 points of skill equipment to tame, THEN TAKING IT OFF, and still being able to use their pet to its maximum effect (without the jewelry, they can't use it AT ALL), the way a sampire does with the necro jewelry.

    It's beyond an apples & oranges argument - your point is more like trying to argue that Watermelons and Coconuts are identical.

    Oh, BTW, don't try that I'm a tamer trying to defend their actions - The only tamer character I have has 87 taming, 91 lore, and gets about 10 hours of play time a YEAR (and all of that training and vetting) since I created it 3 years ago with the 8th age (or was it Gold that came with it) Advanced character token, because I play meleers almost exclusively.
     
  41. Fox (Europa)

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    Well those new faction items sound as though they will making joining factions for PvP very tempting. Trouble with that though is we can end up with just four zerg alliances per shard and you won't be able to choose what guilds are in them.

    Non-faction PvPers will certainly be at a major disadvantage without these items.

    Fox
     
  42. UOKaiser

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    I say vampire form in itself is kind of useless for a necro am i wrong? But people soloying peerless It doesnt have a damaging effect. I dont care If someone can solo High end monsters it used to be nobody could solo paragon balrons or balrons by them self or any doom boss but people adjusted and now they can. Stronger monster than peerless will come about no one can solo it then somebody clever will find a way. Its just how it is. I just change templates to be able to do what others can. thats my challenge I see someone doing what I cant and I learn from him and try to do what he do. The end of sampire is true cause that require skill items and high end suits to even attemp the template. Alot of practice to learn how to work specials.

    Now The begginign of something else will begin or return of a old template.
    Am telling you Uo needs more variaty not im a paladin,barbarian,wizard,archer,bard template. It's being done to death. But paladian-wizard,samurai-vampire,Bard-tamer-mage. these are unique templates that you mix and match which makes uo what it is. If it wasnt like this then we all play diablo and leave it as that.
     
  43. Restroom Cowboy

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    LMAO!!!! TRUTH!!!!
     
  44. Chrome

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    About More Stacking Info

    Even if cocoa liquor and butter are different in the quality[normal or exceptional], do they become stucked ?

    dough, pans of cookies, cake, baked or unbaked pie, sushi roll, wasabi clumps, green tea, enchanted apple:
    they are the same matter as cocoa liquor and butter.

    Following, I want to be stucked.
    hollow prism, runed prism, enchanted switch, jeweled filigree, engraving tools
     
  45. Bodhi

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    Well face it, changing the skill+ didnt do a darn thing. People just switch to wraith form dexxers and imo they were better at soloing anyways ;) And wraith form dexxer uses no exploits so im hoping all carebears can finally live without being jealous or whiny about it!
     
  46. 4gregu

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    Yea, about that..... if you attempt to cook an entire stack of items, you get the gains as if you would have cooked them one by one. (You can test this right now by trying to cook a stack of raw fish steaks.)
    So please quit asking for things to not be stackable when you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
  47. Restroom Cowboy

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    im sorry your solo temp was nerfed because of changes to ONE SPELL, but get over it. this doesnt end an era as the spell still works the same as it was intended.

    also...this problem wasnt harmless...as you might think. it had some pretty heavy implications with both pvm and pvp. perhaps look before you leap next time? research first....post later....thanks
     
  48. Restroom Cowboy

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    hah...carebears...

    ten million says I could smoke you with a crafter.

    neener neener!

    btw...I love the idea of the faction item revamp. *applause for the devs*
     
  49. UOKaiser

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    I dont understand one thing are people complaining you can do this whith skill items? If they made vamp embrace able to be cast whith 0 skill would people complain about it? Vampire form in itself just alows you to use wep that dont have life leach so you can have more variation. Has a mana regen increase not sure how much but you can easily get that with mana regen items that could replace the higher fire equipment. Can automaticaly protect you from low end poison just like a orange petal can but useless to high end poisons. Cant use cure pots at all and gets damage whith mage spells that use garlic. and a huge penalty with fire ressit that if you had 100 necro u wouldnt want to even bother using this spell cause of all the negatives and little benefit when you can use curse wep and your med to relplace any benefit vampire embrace gives you. Oh and useless in pvp.
     
  50. UOKaiser

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    My template wasnt nerf lol I have my solo tamer :) with no jewels.

    Oh and if they nerf that I have my spellwever, and my bard, and if they nerf those I will switch all my skills around to once again make a template that would work. And if the nerf everything pvm I have my crafters which there trying to nerf now. And if they nerf my crafters i have my pvp character and if they nerf that then I guess there's nothing else so uo just have to close down cause nothing will be worth playing.