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[UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items from T

Discussion in 'UHall' started by UO News, Mar 28, 2011.

  1. UO News

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    Greetings,

    We would like to bust a recent myth about transfers from Test Center.

    There are two shard types that players may not transfer “from” or “to”: Siege and Test Centers.

    Character transfer is not enabled for these shard types, nor will it be implemented.

    So why are you seeing strange hues on some pets? During the recent updates and patches to the game, some content we made available for testing, made its way onto production shards. We identified the problem immediately and put in a fix during maintenance to prohibit more “illegal” hues to make their way into the game. In addition, all changes were reverted … but not before some content made its way onto live shards.

    Right now we have monitoring in place to identify what items and hues were available before the update, and which were made available to those who took the opportunity to exploit the changes.

    Know that for those who have taken the opportunity to exploit, those hues will also be reverted to their original state



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  2. Turles

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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    sucks for the people that were told they were very old event items and spent billions big frowns.... i was not one of these just sayin. the exploiters win again
     
  3. Taylor

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    Nobody likes exploiters--not even exploiters.
     
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    I feel the need to point out that they must have left out a part of the story. You know, the part where they identified the ones that used the exploit and banned their accounts. I'm sure they just forgot to put it in.
     
  5. Demonous

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    people need to do research before spending gold all willy nilly
     
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    We know of one stratics user that recently tried selling one of these hued mounts.

    EDIT: And I agree with Demon.
     
  7. Turles

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    when he has pictures of messana saying its real kinda hard to not believe them =]
     
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    So he does. I just noticed that one. I assumed the cleaning up/lock of the auction thread and eventual deletion of the discussion thread, along with the timing of the sale was all tied to this new "Different Hued Mount" exploit. Not to mention posting under another name....yea.

    Guess the hackas never made it here.

    EDIT: Oh and lets not forget to mention having no history of said horse whatsoever.
     
  9. G.v.P

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    Nice to see an official response, and glad it wasn't as bad as the rumor suggested.
     
  10. jaashua

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    So, obviously, that stuff with the transfers being down was to fix the gaping exploit they made available.
     
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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    Glad I missed all that.
     
  12. Tinsil

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    Yah, good thing we know they for sure, absolutely already took care of that part though.
     
  13. hungry4knowhow

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    They kind of backed themselves into a rut on that one. Mesanna telling someone they were legal event items makes it kind of hard to ban someone at this point.
     
  14. GalenKnighthawke

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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    So....Can someone please say what happened?

    I missed this one entirely.

    Someone dismount Mesanna, tame her Abyssal Dread Mare, run off with it, and then dupe it somehow?

    -Galen's player
     
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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    Galen, I stumbled across this thread in the Tamer's forum today: http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-tamer/238314-warning-beware-traders-selling-coloured-pets.html. I'm guessing this and the thread it links to might be what the "myth buster" posting is talking about.
     
  16. Gunga_Din

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    Lies.....The Infidels continue to transfer !!
     
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    Hahahahahahahaha...like this is something new? The exploiters are always one step ahead of the devs. Cant even ban them because players were already duped on the pets buying them. GG Bioware. Mesanna dropping the ball on not knowing for sure? Epic fail.
     
  18. GalenKnighthawke

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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    Thank you.

    I did see one of those, I just assumed it was a Minax war horse running by and my eye misread the color.

    -Galen's plahyer
     
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    I'd hardly say a handful of weird colored horses is an epic fail...
     
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    Except the Developers. They depend on the exploiters to find a bug, let it pass around awhile until reported by several player complaints,then fry as many exploiters as possible. exploiter + problem solved = banned account.
    I applaud a company that over the years have lost many of its Sosarians but hasn't changed it's policy when it comes to banning certain types of rule infractions.
     
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    Just to bring everyone up to speed, since many do not visit the Rare Collector section of the forums...

    ***Disclaimer: This post is full of speculation, and no hard facts will be drawn out of what is publicly seen. This could be an issue of wrong place at wrong time, but either way these events are questionable***

    There was an Auction (Red Hued Nightmare on Atlantic) created that before it was cleaned up, had several people questioning the methods of the seller. Sure it was his auction, but the whole thing smelled funny. This thread can be found here: http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-rare...rd-red-nightmare-purchased-gary-asuncion.html

    Since we were told to take any further discussion of the auction into an entire new thread, a Discussion was created. After a single evening with a new Discussion thread on that very same auction, instead of being locked, it was deleted for getting too out of hand (I only posted once and never saw the thread after a few posts in it before I checked again 5 hours later and it was deleted already, so I cannot divulge into what was in said thread).

    Shortly after all of this commotion, the seller of the horse said the horse was no longer available, and the thread was closed.

    Before the thread was closed (Mere hours) another thread popped up selling another Red Nightmare on the same shard (Atlantic) found here: http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-rares-collector/238060-selling-red-nightmare-pet-atlantic-also.html

    What is questionable is the warning before the close of this new thread. Hmmm?

    Then after 3 days after the thread was closed, the original auctioneer of the Red Nightmare makes remarks in another thread commenting on his rule of thumb not to mess with unusual colored pets found here: http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-rares-collector/238221-charcoal-horse.html. Why? You just wanted to sell yours for 300mill + a Blaze CU, which is worth somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.3bill+.

    I have not known the original person that was trying to sell the Red Nightmare to be a scammer, a liar or a cheater in the past. Which is why I cannot say definitively that said person is trying to make a big G off of an exploit. This person could have been scammed himself. Though the claim is, is that it is a 9 year old pet that was bought from another stratics poster.

    This exploit IS an epic fail. A simple hue might not sound significant in terms of wow factor, but people still spend 1 Billion gold for a CU that has a blaze hue (Woopty crap, I never cared for them in the first place), or somewhere around $500 in todays market, could be more since the last Blaze CU I seen go for a full Bill was several years ago when Gold was worth closer to .75c-.95c to 1mill.

    The major problem right now is that there is no history on a hued Nightmare of this color that I or anyone else knows of. Western or Asian shards. No one has posted a thread, or even offered some half baked memory of this occurrence.

    Again, I don't mean to throw this guy under the bus, but it cannot be helped when everything I am posting is already public.
     
  22. hungry4knowhow

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    Again I'll state that it is hardly an epic fail. It did nothing to the game itself. It didn't cause a mass influx of items, gold, anything that would be a detriment to the game economy.

    So some dummy spent a billion gold? ok... so a billion gold transferred from one player to another. This happens every single day. Not Epic Fail.
     
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    Re: [UO Herald] UO Myth Buster – “Player are able to transfer characters and items fr

    While a full narrative of what's going on here has yet to entirely emerge for me, I think I've figured out this much....

    There was some exploit that colored pets, and really just two things made this stand out among bugs/exploits.

    One was that Mesanna "approved" at least one that we know of, mistaking it for an event item of some kind. Two was that the rumor started that these pets resulted somehow from someone yanking dyed pets, or the dyed pets themselves, off of Test Center.

    Cal says "no, this was not from TC, and nor was this legal, this was your basic ordinary exploit, we're taking measures."

    Do I have it about right?

    -Galen's player
     
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    Seems spot on to me G, add in that a couple people in a couuple threads brought up the words "Test Center" and "Transfer" and you have fuel + Fire.
     
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    yes they must have forgot this major info......jeeze
     
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    I just want to mention here that there is more to the red nightmare threads then everyone thinks, and I have screenshots of the ENTIRE chat log between Mesanna and I... I am NOT going to release them though to the public because I dont think that would be appropriate unless she asked me to. I also have the ENTIRE chat log between Gary Asuncion and I. If the moderators or Mesanna want you to know anymore information as far as seeing my screenshots I have or anything else then I think they will step in and say something. Other then that though, I can't say that I know who Neutron Bomb is. I'm not even quite sure how he knows me? Sorry it sounds like you said you knew me Neutron Bomb hehe. Mesanna and the Managing Editor know where I stood in the situation and have a better understanding of what all happened and I am thankful for that.
     
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    Looks like the general thread over at Rares forum was deleted too. I know Stratics has to censor stuff...as long as this issue doesn't get swept under the rug entirely. Problem is Stratics has to censor any accusations even if they're true, even with proof like screenshots or something. Like when a guy posted a pic of a ghost cam server page, that got censored pretty damn fast. I guess the best course of action is to just talk to Cal or Mesanna, and maybe the accusations will go somewhere with them since they won't stay up on Stratics for long.

    It's an epic fail because it's an exploit, and because people treated it as a rare. From what I've read, Mesanna, at first, said they were legal, so not only did EA's coding allow for the exploit, but Mesanna had no clue what was going on at first. How much more fail could there be...
     
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    You know i thought it funny the other day someone was crying on Great LAkes about giving someone gold on another shard, for a blaze cu on GL test, something didnt add up at the time and the fella made a big deal, on top of paying gold on a prodo shard for a pet on test? Something is not adding up on this message i believe, who in their right mind would offer 20M+ on a production shard for a blaze cu on GL test? come on there is more to the story even if it was for a short time, truth will set everyone free
     
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    Hey G.v.P,

    I can see how one might call how Mesanna handled it jacked up. But lets be sensible here. This game is 14? years old. How many dev teams? How many old exploits having to do with color where the fruits are still around? and deemed ok?

    I'd say its ok to give her a slide on proclaiming its legality. Ease up a bit. No one on the dev team has put the time into one aspect of the game like many here have. Be it PvP, Rare Collecting, Animal Collecting, etc...especially if you add up some of the years put in by these players.

    On players treating it as a rare. Again this happens with damn near every color related exploit. I can recall pretty quickly some cloth exploits that have had a much bigger impact on the rare market, or soon will have, than this handful of horses. Europa Gold anyone? Wait a couple years, White cloth tub dyed leather? Ethereal cloth? Neon Leather Dye Tubs? All of these had a bigger impact on the game than this exploit. And in a couple years the white cloth tub dyed leather will come out of hiding for the masses to buy at ridiculous prices.

    I see how this is a fail. And im certainly not one to say oh well. and let all responsibility slide, but to say its a fail on any kind of epic proportion is just wrong. This exploit affected basically no one. Other than the few people who used it, and the very few people who were dumb enough to buy.

    /EDIT: I will give you that EA's coding in general over the years, with the passing off to many different hands, is a fail of possibly epic proportions. But this is nothing new, its been fail level for a number of years now.
     
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    SO I WILL ASK THE DEVS AGAIN....

    WHY HAVE U NOT BANNED THE EXPLOITERS ON THE SPOT!!!!!
     
  31. olduofan

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    because ea has told the dev team if we get below a "Bakers Dozen" in subs they will pull the plug :spider:
     
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    True, we do need to give some rope given the age of the game, and how, from "black" dye tubs out the devs have given us legal ways to obtain exploited items (most recently seen, tub wise, by the inclusion of the "white" dye tub, heh). But Mesanna seems to say something is legal at the drop of a hat. For example, she told me and two friends on Origin that killing golems from a ship was legal because it could still damage you from a distance. Then a few weeks later the devs were like wait a minute, that's lame, haha, and they made a stealth change so that golems (and other stuff) pull you off the ship. Still, I have to say it's really nice how Mesanna actually communicates with the players. It's hard to think of a dev that has put themself out there to the extent she has, in which you can e-mail her something and she'll address it, sometimes with a game change.
     
  34. Sevin0oo0

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    The longer an exploit is out there, the more people will do it, and C has already stated No Mass Bannings. At some point it may even become kinda legal - think arctic white cloth from that Cove dungeon quest
     
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    I hate to burst people's bubble here but when exactly did UO Myth Buster come into existence? Also, "content we made available for testing, made its way onto production shards." What is this? I don't know if any of you have played test center, but there is a command you can say at the bank called "give air" that will spawn a red, green or blue tree graphic that can instantly dye any pet. There is also a chance of a glacial one spawning. Keep in mind that these "hued" pets that have popped up recently are either green or red. Is this a coincidence? Probably not. Furthermore, what content was made available for testing that involved pet colors? I've not heard of anything of this nature before now. I probably should keep my mouth shut, but the logical thing to do from OSI's standpoint, would be to post this to keep people from worrying. I just thought I should throw this out there considering what else could possibly pop up if something actually has happened.