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UO is #58 on G4's Top 100 Video Games

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Woodsman, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. Woodsman

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    G4 Has Ultima Online in Top 100 Video Games of all Time - Also Top Western RPG Before 2000 | Ultima Online Gateway

    Video at the link above or somewhere on G4's site.

    #58 is not bad, and R.A. Salvatore even mentions UO in the video.

    The only surprising thing is that this apparently was actually shown on G4 TV. Typically when I flip it to G4, it's some crappy reality show, Campus PD, etc. Finding video game stuff randomly on G4 is like trying to find Sci-Fi stuff on SyFy, in between ghost shows and wrasslin.
     
  2. Lorddog

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    hahahaha just occured to me that ghost shows of today are like the wrestling shows of the 70s. everyone knows they are fake but still fun to watch and get into them.
     
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    Those wrestlers were impressive though. Think of the things they did to each other and none of them left in an ambulance. They had to have dedicated some serious time and effort into getting into the physical condition they needed to be in and into learning how to do those moves they did without really injuring their opponets or being injured by their opponets. The average guy would have been leaving the ring on a gurney for an ambulance ride to the nearest hospital trying to do some of those manuvers.
     
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    But behind Gauntlet (#54). Fairly sad actually....

    And of course the Blizzard Games
    Diablo II - #19
    Starcraft - #17
    WoW - #10

    Not sure how Diablo I did not make the list and clearly Diablo III will make the top 20 at some point.
     
  5. Woodsman

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    They seemed prejudiced against some games made before 2000, especially RPGs. I would have had UO higher, and I would have had Ultima 7 up near WoW. Ultima 7 had a huge influence on a lot of people. WoW deserves #10 simply because it got millions to play MMORPGs that had never played them before. It got people playing video games who don't normally play video games.

    Actually they should have had Ultima IV or some of the other earlier Ultimas on there, because those influenced the Japanese RPGs. It's odd to have games on the list that were influenced by the older Ultimas, but not have those Ultimas on there.
     
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    is Diablo 2 still very populated or have a lot left it for d3?
     
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    I think it's because they never played those games.
     
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    These are all time rankings and mostly done by all time sales. I'm not sure anyone plays Diablo II now, but it was huge when it came out and sold tons of copies.

    Here is an interesting Wikipedia entry on unit sales across all platforms.

    Interesting that D3 is already reported at 6.3M which puts it ahead of some big names already in the PC space (At $60/copy that means $378 Million so far not counting what they are making on the USD auction site). As a side note, I have been pretty much playing it 100% only logging into UO periodically to check vendors. I really need to 'sell/pack' my stuff on UO to shut down an account or two. Problem is that takes time and I'd rather be playing DIII.
     
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    Is there anything to do in D3 other than hacking on monsters? I have D2 installed on my system but it doesn't get played much for that reason.
     
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    List names most of my favorites, but not in the way I'd personally order them.
     
  11. Sevin0oo0

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    ...I was gonna ask if there was a list, had to click so much, thought I was playing UO.
    Here's for those that would rather read. (spelling not checked)

    100. Pong
    99. Words With Friends
    98. Pitfall
    97. NBA 2K11
    96. Guitar Hero II
    95. Burger Time
    94. Braid
    93. Star Wars: Tie Fighter
    92. Galaga
    91. The Sims
    90. Baldur’s Gate II
    89. Left 4 Dead
    88. Double Dribble
    87. Mass Effect 2
    86. Out Run
    85. Silent Hill 2
    84. Wii Sports
    83. Ninja Gaiden
    82. Super Smash Bros. Melee
    81. Resident Evil
    80. Gears Of War 3
    79. PsychoNauts
    78. Spy Hunter
    77. Excitebike
    76. Blades Of Steel
    75. Fallout 3
    74. Starfox 64
    73. Mega Man II
    72. Mortal Kombat
    71. Wing Commander II
    70. Star Wars
    69. Double Dragon
    68. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
    67. Minecraft
    66. Assassin’s Creed II
    65. Unreal Tournament
    64. NBA Jam
    63. Wolfenstein 3D
    62. Civilization II
    61. God Of War III
    60. Contra
    59. Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tenacle
    58. Ultimata Online
    57. Pokemon Red/Blue
    56. Super Street Fighter IV
    55. Kingdom Hearts
    54. Gauntlet
    53. Deus Ex
    52. Rock Band 3
    51. Ratchet & Clank Going Commando
    50. Sonic The Hedgehog
    49. Angry Birds
    48. Tecmo Bowl
    47. Must
    46. Red Dead Redemption
    45. Metal Gear Solid
    44. Grand Theft Auto IV
    43. Quake III: Arena
    42. Ghosts ‘N Goblins
    41. Super Mario 64
    40. Space Invaders
    39. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater
    38. Super Metroid
    37. Halo
    36. Batman: Arkham City
    35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
    34. Counter Strike
    33. Final Fantasy VII
    32. Mike Tyson’s Punch Out
    31. Skyrim
    30. Super Street Fighter II Turbo
    29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    28. Super Mario Kart
    27. Chrono Trigger
    26. Ico
    25. Grand Theft Auto III
    24. Madden 2005
    23. Halo 3
    22. Panzer Dragoon Saga
    21. Resident Evil IV
    • #20 – COD: Modern Warfare
    • #19 – Diablo II
    • #18 – Ms. Pac-Man
    • #17 – Starcraft
    • #16 – Half-Life
    • #15 – Donkey Kong
    • #14 – Uncharted 2
    • #13 – Portal
    • #12 – Doom II
    • #11 – Zelda OOT
    • #10 – World Of Warcraft
    • #9 – Shadow Of The Colossus
    • #8 – Goldeneye
    • #7 – Super Mario Bros 3
    • #6 – Legend of Zelda
    • #5 – Tetris
    • #4 – Asteroids
    • #3 – BioShock
    • #2 – Link To The Past
    • #1 – Super Mario Bros.
     
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    Yeah, some really odd choices - I'd have had Farmville, X-COM/UFO, Tempest, Star Wars Arcade, U3, U7 and Space War on the list. There's WAY too much Zelda & Mario on the list.
     
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    No Secret of Mana... :(
     
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    I don't get what the big deal is with Shadow of the Colossus or Ico. I played and enjoyed them sure but there were so many things wrong with them especially the controls and camera. That aside, the list is decent I guess, but I don't see Earthbound or Dark Souls on there and I don't see how those could not be on a list that includes other RPGs unless the authors of the list haven't played them.

    Also, Words With Friends?... what on earth...
     
  15. MalagAste

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    I think it's almost scary just how many of those games I still own and played. I'm surprised one of the Castlevania games beat out UO. Sad. Though I'll say this Dungeon Keeper isn't on there......:( ...... Therefore the list is obviously flawed!
     
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  16. Woodsman

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    Farmville and U7 for sure. As much as I hate Farmville, it's one of those games that pulls in non-gamers.

    And not a single Quest game from Siera :(

    I'm torn on which of the Ultimas. The early ones influenced Japanese RPGs. Ultima 7 all but defined what a sand box is for RPGs.
     
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    Definitely agree with this. Chrono Trigger or FFVII behind Ms. PacMan?

    I think that it would have been useful for them to describe the variables. It seems clear that historical impact was weighted heavily, leading to the inclusion of Pong, Asteroids, etc. However, it was certainly visual impact that won Shadow of the Colossus its spot, as its popularity was pretty understated. Additionally, the impact of storytelling was apparently considered, albeit to a lesser degree, leading to the inclusion of a few RPGs. A clearer outline of the variables and their relative weights would have made the rankings easier to pallet.
     
  18. Ashlynn_L

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    I guess this is why these lists don't really matter though it is very nice UO got recognition. I think Shadow of the Colossus is one of the best games I ever played. I also think Chrono Trigger and Symphony of the Night should be way further up the list, certainly above diablo and WoW. And Aquaria, Dreamweb and Settlers 1/2 aren't on there! =P

    It's all very subjective and we all have different favourites. Even my "best games list" changes from month to month a little!

    But no black gate? that really is terrible. =P
     
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    Agreed. People do lists like these to generate discussion, not be the final word on the matter. I also usually find some new games to try out from these. Uncharted 2 I still want to try as well as Symphony of the Night.

    But really, how could someone like Donkey Kong more than Team Fortress 2 (which isn't even on the list!)? ;)
     
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    I thought the list was pretty good, but was really surprised not to see X-COM and Sim City.

    When I saw Words with Friends at 99 I expected the worst, but I thought overall they did a fairly good job of mixing old and new.
     
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    Forgot about Sim City. I spent I have no idea how many countless hours playing that game. And Populous.... God I even had dreams of raising and lowering land.....
     
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    Farmville, where the object of the game is to spend RL cash in order to advance, should not be on the list.
     
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    Where's Code Monkeys ? Oh wait, that was a cartoon... :p And Link to the Past should have been #1.
     
  24. Woodsman

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    That is a huge mistake. Especially since SimCity is on everybody's minds due to EA rebooting it and how well it was received earlier this month at E3.
     
  25. Woodsman

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    Farmville...games can get credit if they pull in non-gamers. It's like Angry Birds.

    GarthGrey Code Monkeys. If you are the right age, you find it incredibly funny. If you're not, you can still find some humor. I think I've watched the whole series twice on Netflix instant streaming.
     
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    That list is horrible. G4:dunce:..I've never even heard o' them.

    How many games have made the 15 year mark on that list'?

    And there is a clear difference between Video Games and PC Games. No true gamer would lump them into the same category. :scholar:

    Bunch of amateurs over at G4.
     
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    i really dont see how bioshock beat out so many of those other games to get number 3....thats really only gripe lol
     
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    Same here. I love Code Monkeys.
     
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    Bioshock was a fun and interesting game with an interesting setting but yes, I was a bit wtf too. =P
     
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    It all really depends on the criteria the games are being judged on, and how they're being judged on those.
    The list seems to be very subjective, in an "I/we :heart: these games" rather than "these games were milestones in gaming history".
     
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    Pretty much hacking on creatures is as deep as it gets. It's sort of like Cora but with good graphics, big maps and mini-dungeons.

    I bet if UO had some real graphics to compete with those other games it'd be in the top 10!!! I'll take what I can get though, retro graphics and sandbox play beats the rest of the contenders hands down. At least Ultima has the nads to be different and that's something I can seriously respect. ;)
     
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    I started to nerd rage on the list, but then decided it only works if you ignore the numbers preceding the game titles. I think you also have to have a pretty open mind. Some of the games have not aged well, so evaluating them against more current games is going to be apples to oranges. I was shocked Sim City wasn't on the list though.
     
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    I do like how in UO's video too they're all talking about old UO from their college days and showing video from the T2A era and earlier, and praising it for it's pvp :D...they're definitely not talking about UO as it is now but as it was back when they played it.
     
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    Some of the games I have enjoyed in the past I didn't happen to see...

    Lemonaid Stand!
    Age of Empires
    Diablo I (which I enjoyed more than D II)
    Zork
    Jumpman
    Araknoid
     
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    I loved Diablo 1 for PS1