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UO is sexist.

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Petrify, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. Petrify

    Petrify Lore Master
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    Why should I have a male character? There is absolutely no benefit compared to female. Let's compare the advantages:

    Male
    Can ride Ki-rins.

    Female
    Can ride Unicorns.
    Can wear any type of armour.
    Can fight succubus'.

    I strongly believe UO is sexist against male characters.
     
  2. Velvathos

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    Do not forget about the hideous paper-dolls that female characters first had in KR, then they made them look like the hottest chicks at hooters and kept the male characters ugly... :(
     
  3. Pom Pom

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    Well at least the tillerman addresses your male characters properly! :(
     
  4. Arch Magus

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    lol

    awwwwww :blushing:
     
  5. Fink

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    Stick insects, catering to the lowest common denominator. They have scaling on the paperdoll (there was a bug that showed it up), but it's not implemented as a feature. If they gave us that option, I'd make my main character about a foot and a half shorter than the statuesque figures they have by default. They definitely got the better pose, though, the male's "alert crouch" looks like he's got abdominal cramps, and his cheekbones look like jug handles.
     
  6. christy1221

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    I know. I hate being called sir :sad4:
     
  7. G.v.P

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    Chicks at Hooters aren't always that hot.

    I don't really play KR or look at my profile too often, but I remember how dopey guys looked in Third Dawn when they changed it lol. That, and how we (all) rode beetles. Oh man.

    Anyway, polymorph works wonders. I'm more an anti-elf candidate.

    Elves got wooden armor, that has a base of 16 and enhancements of up to +18, which totally screwed humans over.

    That makes a lot more difference than say the choice between the Heart of the Lion and the Violet Courage.

    Besides, can't a male still use a Unicorn to attack? :p And have you ever used vampiric embrace? ;D

    You should, it beats sleeping at night.
     
  8. PASmountaindew

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    I like the fact that when your character dies that the female corpses look sometimes a lot more attractive laying on the ground that the male corpses. LOL But other than that I think that females really do have more of an advantage.
     
  9. Farsight

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    Except the ladies using divine fury have the same effect on me as the old "Nails on a Chalkboard" routine.

    RAAAGH!
     
  10. Katlene

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    i always thought being a chick rocked :p:lick:
    maybe it was more of a balance things cause once upon a gooses bridle there wernt so many female players so they made being a female char more attractive ...scuse the pun... for the male players to use.
     
  11. Fink

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    I love that! Better than the male "Huah!", sounds like he's trying to do Pacino impressions.
     
  12. Petrify

    Petrify Lore Master
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    But seriously, screw the roleplay sense. Give me one good reason why I shouldn't go out and buy a gender change token for my characters just so I can do an imp spawn?
     
  13. 5% Luck

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    Gender Bender

    "Im a cutie"
     
  14. Maplestone

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    :(

    *wonders what the ratio of males:females is amongst actively played characters*

    I think the top priority should be to keep that close to 50:50 :)
     
  15. Uhhh why would you want to wear womens cloths? :blushing:

    And I have killed hundereds and hundereds of succubus's with male characters.
     
  16. Raina

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    Well the Armor thing was pretty much only Aesthetic up until AoS, and of course they made no sorta considerations...

    ~Rai
     
  17. I personally only played male characters, up until aos came out. Then I made a female tailor. I guess thats a bit sexist. But anyways since that time I have added a few more, now I have 4 total female characters compared to 10 male characters. Only 2 of my characters are elves, which happens to be 2 of the female characters.

    So now while hunting when I come accross good female armor, I have a few characters that can use it. I also don't usually advertise to others who my female characters are, so I feel funny when horn balls at the bank treat me differently when I'm playing a female character.

    But in general most players seem to be nicer to female characters, so theres another advantage. Seriously you can stand around with a dead pet for hours waiting for a rez on a male character, but i've never had to wait with my female characters. Go figure..
     
  18. jelinidas

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    12 mil?
     
  19. GirlPower

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    Seems like to me anyways, that the male wraith form moves faster than the female?
     
  20. JC the Builder

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    Men can have beards (unless you buy the really expensive beard sculpting creme)
    Men have transparent wraith form, women do not

    So it is balanced 3 for 3 now.
     
  21. Bombastic Fail

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    Polymorph? :coco:
     
  22. Zuckuss

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    Men also receive +20 intelligence and a +150% bonus to their Responsibility for paying all the bills.


    JK !!!!
     
  23. Demonous

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    males can ride ethrial unicorns :)
     
  24. Mark Knotts

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    This was a stupid mistake and their fix was to force you to join factions and get your rank up to wear a pair of earrings. (Yes I have a faction player so don't QQ to me about that) I think I even remember reading that they're doing gargoyle only items because apparently this dev team doesn't learn from anything they do. Making race only wear isn't enticing me to buy your game guys. Thanks.
     
  25. Jhym

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    well then don't wander through heartwood... most of them call you 'buddy'. The ladies in my family don't appreciate that.

    Not good to annoy a sorceress, nor a blacksmith.
     
  26. Petrify

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    I was doing that with + magery jewels and polymorph scroll on my dexxers and it wore off after about 2 minutes. Pain in the ass.
     
  27. Fink

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    It's a toggled spell now. Casting polymorph is undone by casting it again (or dying).

    Are you wanting people here to talk you out of a gender change? I say do it, if it gives you an edge.
     
  28. Gheed

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    Slightly off topic (and I don't think it matters) but speaking of Heartwood.... why do you have liitle glowing bugs sitting on poles in your city...providing light... if your entire race has night sight?
     
  29. Jhym

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    That would be because of the GBU. Glowy Bug Union, Elvish Chapter. All elven common areas must have at least one Glowy Bug every 200 feet. It was agreed to several millenia ago and the Council of Elves' Commerical Fauna Commitee keeps getting deadlocked in bringing the issue up.
     
  30. Kiminality

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    Actually, with the "forms" changes, recently. I though I read that polymorph forms, from scrolls (presumably without the required skill) would time out after a number of minutes (2?).
     
  31. Sarphus

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    yeah... I'm actually thinking of gender changing my male warrior because of this sexism.

    I gender changed my spawner becuase of it...
     
  32. phantus

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    Female brigands always have less money than the male ones.
     
  33. Kiminality

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    Female NPC paladins have less HP
     
  34. Jhym

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    Female Healers are more likely to flamestrike you though.
     
  35. Kiminality

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    That might be more down to choice in chat up line, though ;)


    Oh! Oh! I forgot to mention...
    Male Kimonos...
     
  36. Katlene

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    why would you want to wear them anyway? hideous!
     
  37. laurlo

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    and racist... its the female elves who get it all.
     
  38. GalenKnighthawke

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    I agree that UO is sexist. For example, female NPCs are, on the tracking menu, classified as "monsters" rather than "NPCs;" female necromancers who put themselves in wraith forms are Wailing Banshees instead of wraiths; and female fighters do less damage.

    -Galen's player
     
  39. Jhym

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    Well... we COULD have devs lovinginly doing artwork for busty babes and loin-clothed hunks. Hour after hour. Drawing and drawing again. Pulling up paperdolls and airbrushing slowly up and down...

    And then SA is pushed back to 2012 for "artistic reasons".
     
  40. 5% Luck

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    A friend of mine asked me to burn a B-kit for her and i made skirts with spined leather(+ phys) anyhow i ended up with a 28/23/6/8/18 138 luck 19 lrc skirt with 6 LMC. That made me want to change gender!
     
  41. Pinco

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    ok, let's make a petition:
    Gargoyles must be males only and can wear every kind of armor... and double damage vs females :lol:
     
  42. Petrify

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    Exactly, I plan to change my spawner as well, just to do Imp spawns.
     
  43. siyeng0

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    Hey, my male character fights succubi and rides a unicorn. He is hellbent on subverting gender expectations. (while still expecting women to clean his house and bear his children, but he's a "shovenist," eh.)

    However.

    I refuse to accept that he can't wear skimpy leather bikinis. I will be sending enraged emails to the developers about this. "WE WANT BARBARIAN TRANSVESTITES."

    I mean, seriously. They can wear skirts and fancy dresses, but they can't wear a leather skirt? My character demands a leather skirt! He feels naked without it!
     
  44. AesSedai

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    - Ahh-ha! I have made primarily female characters since before AoS because of armor discrepencies.
    x: But I still can't stand to be an elf in a game where humans were meant to be the avatar. Yeah, I will bend and create a gargoyle when the time is right; at least it isn't a stinking cookie cutter fantasy creature.

    Just another reason why my crafters need the ability to transmogrify some items.

    Oh Devs... Imbuing addition?
     
  45. uoBuoY

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    UO women can't ride sidesaddle...ouch
     
  46. Harlequin

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    Ddin't it used to sound like a guys no matter what gender you are? Or was that EOO?

    Females gets stripped by Satyrs, and I don't really like the slender waist female characters get when wearing male platemail tunic. Not much of a disadvantage though.

    The biggest advantage is being able to wear female armor and not having your spells reflected back on you when fighting Semidar (the Abyss spawn champion that looks like a Succubus). I don't seem to recall if normal succubi reflect spells on you, do they?
     
  47. Doubleplay

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    The FoF was about braziers this week.... I rest my case
     
  48. MalagAste

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    UO has always been sexist...... You ever notice how 90% of the creatures of UO have only one sex..... Male.... Do you see any female Orcs?, Trolls?, Ogres??? Where are all the females? We all know that the male paperdoll is hideously ugly in KR..... I do hope they fix that for SA.

    Also the female wraith form is highly visible where the male form is not.....
     
  49. trammelite

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    @phantus
    and not even a collection of different shoes ;)

    but what baffled me when reading this thread: out of my 14 chars, only one is female. why is that ? macho-cism ? lol

    BTW - you should not have such a discussion about a game originated in the US. might end up in some quick hot fixes to prevent from getting sued for billions. and we all had our share of hot fixes, didn't we ?
     
  50. Petrify

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    So is it sexist to males or females?