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Update on Potential Arcane Focus Changes?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by cdavbar, Jun 28, 2013.

  1. cdavbar

    cdavbar Lore Master
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    This hasn't been discussed in a while and I thought I'd bring it up again. A dev once mentioned possible changes for Arcane Focus to last for in-game time. Is this still in the works? I ask because I have been sitting here for two hours trying to get a focus so I may go on some hunts, yet, I still only have one person here with me. This is getting very frustrating and is wasting precious game time to sit here spamming general chat.
     
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    Mentioned back on Jan 22nd. I'd also like to mention, the only thing asked for by me though was adding a way to get a focus, not beefing up the damage of any of the spells, and possibly reworking immolating weapon to actually be more than a waste of mana.
     
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  3. SlobberKnocker

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    they really should just make it some quest. donate x amount of something to Arielle and go on your merry way.
     
  4. Voodoo Bad Mojo

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    bugger that.
    the SW spells have enough jam to them already.
    and you can go up 5 more levels from there just by adding people.
    it should be hard to get the top level.
    making everything so easy to do/get is killing the game.

    hell, they should put the brit circle BACK in the dungeon as far as im concerned.
    im so done with seeing SW roll up and drop 800hp bombs while at events and get all the treats.
     
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  5. cdavbar

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    This post wasn't asking for your opinion on what you think of Spellweaving. You have major flaws in your thinking. First off, a level one WoD is NOT powerful, and doesnt do any more damage than a flamestrike or e-bolt. This isn't a discussion on how powerful or not something is.

    The dev's stated that they would look into possibly changing the focus time from 9 real-time hours to 9 hours of logged in play time. Now for most days that would still require me to obtain a focus, but at least then we would know we could have one when we log in, be it off peak hours. No template should be limited to "peak" hours to be playable. There are days I cannot log in during peak hours due to kids etc etc. Should I then not be able to play my main because of that?

    You want powerful? I do Despise, me on my sampire, a friend on their spellweaver/mage/mystic. I do so much damage that even with WoD, I GET ALL 6 POWERSCROLLS. So, that there blows your "overpowered" out of the water. As for events. Most of us have given up on them. Hell they are unplayable for me, and due to the lag at events targeting gets borked and can't do any damage anyways, so there is no longer a point in going.

    So please, keep to yourself on your "overpowered/underpowered crap" this has nothing to do with making stuff "easy to do", just with making the game "fully playable" for those of us left.

    Oh, and for the record, my "bombs" only hit for 600 at the moment.
     
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  6. cdavbar

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    Correct. There is no one realistically asking for any damage changes or any changes to any spells really. Sure we could all want for one thing or another, but all it comes down to is, is we are tired of being punished for not being logged-in during certain "peak" times due to the lower populations.

    Take Great Lakes. Most mornings you can usually get one between the half hour before server down and the half hour after it is up. Then it slows down for about 3-4 hours because everyone that just got there focus right before or after server mait is too busy doing their thing before the server starts bumping with more players logging in. Throughout the rest of the day it will vary greatly. If you plan on playing overnight during "off-peak" hours, you better have logged in between the hours of 8pm and 10pm to get a focus, even if you don't plan on playing until say 2am, otherwise you are screwed and your template is severely handicapped.
     
  7. Mervyn

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    If anything focus is too easy to get, in my guild, there are often too many people who turn up for the circle and we have to do a one in one out thing so we all get a circle.

    It doesn't really make sense that we're all focus level 6 when some of the other players have logged out or are in a different dungeon or off the screen.
     
  8. yars

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    On pac we might get a 4 or 5 if were lucky,6 is maybe once every 2-3 days.it's not consistent enough.on Atlantic I get a 6 quite easy.maybe they should add shard transferring as a spell for 120 weaving: p
     
  9. Voodoo Bad Mojo

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    alright.
    lets rip up your post shall we.

    thats actually not true.
    with SDI a level 1 WOD hits for about 10 times what a ebolt hits for.
    its called math, and it does rule the known universe.

    obtaining a focus SHOULD be hard.
    you are overcapping the SDI that you can normally do.
    its the only skill in game that you can do this with.
    if we need to spoon feed you the game why then dont we let bushido spells do 5x the damage if they get a bushido focus?
    the spell is put in to make that one art form have more spice to it.
    your character is not 'unplayable' just because you cant get a high level crystal..... you just want the free SDI and you dont want to have to work or use the game dynamics to get it.
    you cant find the people to get a crystal?
    stone off your skill and get a 0 skill one.
    i know.... i know.... that requires more effort then sitting in general chat for 6 hours spamming.

    if your out damaging a mysitc spellweaver enough to get all 6 scrolls then there is 2 routes we can go with this.
    1) is your a liar, i champ every night and i have YET in all these years ever seen anyone get all 6 scrolls.
    hell, i can stand there with a skinning knife on a character who's highest skill is camping and still get rights to 1-3 scrolls.
    but i understand, you need to put a little gravy on the story.
    2) your guild mate may very well be the worst mystic SW in the entire history of the game.
    if between dropping RC's and direct damage spells AND spamming WODs at the end he isnt doing enough damage to get even one scroll????
    not buying it.

    Most of you have given up on EM events?
    your lag is bad?
    so is everyone's.
    has nothing to do with the issue at hand, and apparently it dosnt slow your sampire down.

    are you telling me i cant have a opinion about this game?
    a SW is playable.... fully, without a level 5 crystal.
    if you dont think a SW in wraith form with SDI dropping WoD bombs is overpowered then you need to get out more, and by the sounds of it you need to get out more on a shard that has more then 3 people on it.
     
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  10. Voodoo Bad Mojo

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    see i dont see that.
    i bounce all over from shard to shard and i have never once had a problem getting 6 people for a crystal.
    granted i can take mine off and get a 0 skill one if i need too.
    but thats just me putting a little effort into it.
     
  11. MalagAste

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    Voodoo..... I don't know what fantasy world you live in but I have NEVER seen a no focus WOD do 10x what an EBolt does... I think you are smoking crack or you need to return to reality.

    As for the change to focus I honestly understand what folk are saying. I play to have fun... not stand around spamming in Gen Chat for half an hour... that's not "fun"... And if I can't enjoy the game playing the way I enjoy playing it then by George I'm likely to quit playing to play it... ie the more people we continue to alienate with stupid stuff that can easily be fixed the less likely ANY of us are to be able to continue to play and enjoy the game...

    My opinion is the DEV's need to seriously take a look at the "fun" level and maximize on it... Because people having fun are going to tell other people about it... and the more folk having a good time the more folk staying in game and playing... and the more likely we are to get more funding.... more DEV's .... more budget and more players. Stop the stupidity.... and bring back community and FUN.
     
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  12. cdavbar

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    A no focus WoD is castable at 0% heatlh, useless. A level 1 WoD is castablea 5% health. Again useless in terms of overall damage. So yes, in essence when you take into consideration casting times, etc., it is more powerful to use something like fireballs, flamestrikes, ebolts etc since you will be lucky to get off a WoD using just a level one focus.

    No one said it shouldn't be difficult, but a person shouldnt have to spend a quarter of their playtime, daily just trying to get a focus. Are you that much of a heartless...............?


    What do you know about my play-style to tell me it is unplayable without a level 6 focus? Have you tried soloing a level 7 treasure map with a level one focus? Try it sometime. And before you say, "group play" I play enough in groups. We do guild hunts, alliance hunts, random group hunts, I occasionally sponsor net tosses (green and white), and shard wide peerless runs. But certian things, I like to do solo, that is my playstyle and ALWAYS has been. Again, due to low population, should that playstyle be punished?

    Funny enough I see people spamming for 0 skill focuses every once in a while, and it takes them quite some time to still get one. On another note, why should I have to waste a reward pick, or spend more money on an extra stone just to make the template fully functional?

    Get off your high horse. This HAS happened on two occasions. Once partnered with a mystic weaver, and once partnered with an archer. On BOTH occasions I got all six scrolls, and the skull. Do not tell me it is not possible to do a champ with other people and be the only one getting loot. Did the other people have a bad night? Maybe. Were they without a focus? Maybe. I do not know the exacts of their situations that night on WHY their damage output wasn't high enough. I just know that MINE was high enough on the sampire to own the boss.

    Lag at EVENTS is horrible, didn't say constantly throughout the day (although like everyone else it has its ups and downs). Also I do not bring my sampire out for hunts during bad lag due to the necessity of hitting macros at certain time intervals.


    Your entitled to your opinion about the game, and spellweaving. However, your reply was in no way constructive to THIS tread or what this tread was about. THIS thread was a question to the devs, for an update on a devs remark. Not about the power of the spell. Next time instead of hijacking someones thread and taking it off topic, open your own thread.

    One, I dont use wraith form, two, again this thread HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH the power of the spells, only with the progress of changing focus times from real-time to logged-in time.
     
  13. cdavbar

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    Correct. I have stood by UO since the start. In all reality, I would never totally let my main account fall, I did just recently get my first castle. But I have been frustrated with waiting 1, 2, 3 or more hours for a focus that I just stop playing for the day. I end up having to sit on the circle, activate Picno's AFK Anti-Logout macro, and "hope" one eventually comes for me to use during my next schedule of playing time.
     
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  14. Ducky Momo

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    I find it easier to stone off SW and get a non-skilled circle. If I am in a real jam, I can do this with just my accounts. Then stone it back on and I have a focus for my weaver.
     
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  15. cdavbar

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    Yes that is always a possibility. But one shouldn't have to purchase a soulstone or use a vet reward for one, just to get a focus in a reasonable amount of time. Even then I have seen 0 skill focuses take a while to get.
     
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    fine make it easier for a focus, but then make it so you can't cast 90% of the useful spells with 40 skill.
     
  17. startle

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    What other skill or damage modifier requires you to somehow recruit 5 other players in order for one of your main weapons to function at 100%?
     
  18. Gedgerez Tesherd

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    @ the devs,
    I mostly play test center now days, but I also have 2 to 3 useable toons on every server. I would like to know if we may receive an update as to the method of gaining an Arcane Focus Rank. I cannot find people on various shards during midnight through morning. Devs, Here are some guidelines to a potential update in it's simplest form to gain solo Focus level upgrades:

    Focus Rank 1 requirement skill level at 40 skill
    Focus Rank 2 requirement skill level at 60 skill
    Focus Rank 3 requirement skill level at 80 skill
    Focus Rank 4 requirement skill level at 100 skill
    Focus Rank 5 requirement skill level at 120 skill
    Focus Rank 6 requirement skill with 5 players, or gained solo in Prism of Light

    For the sake of balancing, all Arcane Focus Ranks should come with a personal restriction to dissipate upon soulstoning skill off to avoid players gaining solo max rank & effectiveness with low level Spellweaving.
     
  19. Warpig Inc

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    Put 4 NPCs at a table playing cards by both WBB circles. They are all GM weavers. One can be hired to come over and stand in the circle. For every other after the first they charge less as to not punnish those with bad timing or bad shards. Hate for the rats that stay on the boat not to have fun while drowning. Not saying we need to get rid of dead shards. Sure they make money on transfer tokens for those that feel they need to solo hunts to make gold off an anti-social easy button. Just seems funny to complain about not being able to get a focus on a dead shard. Liiggghhhht Buullbbb.
     
  20. startle

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    No idea what you might be talking about here... Any chance of getting that in English?