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Vet Rewards Cal have idea for you and the Dev team

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Lady Storm, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. Lady Storm

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    Vet Rewards have been one of the best gifts UO has given back to its player base for loyal playing for years.
    The 13 years the game has been going on we have seen many great things come to the players of UO. None so coveted than the Reward earned each year.
    Now for the "but....":

    In my shopping of player vendors over the last few months I have seen so much of the Reward items build up over the years by past and present players there is a glut of items going to waste. Not only are they to an excess that the average player has multi of them unused.
    What am I talking about??
    Well lets list the over flow of rewards taking up bit space and lag...

    Dye Tubs - Special , Furni, Black, Leather. (the original black tubs unlabled are many too)
    Statues - First, second and some 3rd years (Dragon, Demon, Lich etc..)
    Soulstones - Many "DEAD" stones Even some non Reward too, these are the full stones.
    Clothes - 1st - many robes ,cloaks etc

    The list could go on of these items but I wish to propose a "FIX".

    Like a turn in we had for the holloween masks or the Siege 7th an. items for trade.
    A single NPC would credit you with turn in's twards a "new" item from the rewards menu but with a twist.
    Turn in :

    2 second year Vet Reward items earns you a choice from the year 1 - 3 year list (1 choice)
    2 third year item get 1 fourth year item or lower on the list
    Turn in can build up as you add, say you turn in 10 1st year reward items get a 5th year choice.

    These could go to the top of the vet list.
    This would go along way to cleaning up unwanted items and put a higher value on things in game.
    Its an idea... btw love the booster
     
  2. Lord Frodo

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    Not a bad idea. Not to sure about the points. Just use the year that they are and add them up IE 12 1s = 1 12th. a 1 and a 2 = a 3rd.
    You can only pick rewards that your account can norm. pick.
     
  3. nico7600

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    This would only be a good idea if your accont would still only be eligible for a 12th year reward if it really is 12 years old, else everyone, even new account holders could buy 12 cheap lich or demon statues from vendors and get a 12th year reward! This would be very disappointing for people having old accounts!
     
  4. olduofan

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    would it really hurt peoples feeling that bad if someone else had the new 13 year vet rewards boowho ITS JUST A GAME
     
  5. Lady Storm

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    Neco to answer your question :
    No you would still be under the rules of age on Vet Rewards.
    So no player newbie or other wise would be qualified to get a 12 th or 13 th year vet unless their age of account was up to snuff just like the rest of us.

    Yes Frodo that was what I had in mind.
    Mind you we all have seen the Vet rewards laying around collecting dust. There simply are too many of them from past selections we all have done. This is a solution to cut back on the sheer numbers of them and make them have a value again.
     
  6. I would gladly trade my two vet cloaks and two vet robes for one full soul stone!
     
  7. Lady Storm

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    Considering the first year selections include a full Soulstone.... you would be in luck!
    Cal_Mythic it would cut down on the junk taking up space.. give the players who have a need for the rewards and clean up to boot. Pssst... The dead soulstones would be finally given a use.
     
  8. Merion

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    Nice idea.
     
  9. MalagAste

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    I'm all for it.
     
  10. Ox AO

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    Agreed
     
  11. SchezwanBeefy

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    It's a good idea.
    I'm at so many IDOCs where I will see 50 soul stones and it's always so sad to me that something can't be done with them. It just seems like such a waste. I always thought a turn around for them would be a good idea, like 10 full dead soul stones will get you 1 new working one.
    I like this idea, but I think the point system should be just a bit higher. The statues would sell for more on vendors if this was to happen, as well.
     
  12. Lord Frodo

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    Please tell us why it is the worst idea ever.
     
  13. Beer_Cayse

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    I have a few items I'd like to swap out ... this would be a way to allow me to do that. I'm in.
     
  14. If you can't back up your statements it's nothing but a Troll post. I thought Lady Storm actually did a credible job of stating why it's a good idea.
     
  15. Lord Frodo

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    :thumbup1:
     
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    Actually I've changed my mind, I don't like this idea at all.

    Part of what's nice about receiving a vet reward gift is its infrequency. The ability to swap them around diminishes their value, not in the sense that they're worth less gold, but in the sense that they're available and switchable all year round. The plan the OP suggests also diminishes the value of the upper tier rewards through trading up. I'm not even sure lateral trading would be a good idea.

    Either way, I think the system is fine as it is.
     
  17. Babble

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    Too much effort.
    Just throw everything from 3 year reward on the uogamecodes site and sell it for $?
     
  18. Lady Storm

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    For all the nay sayers :
    The Idea is to take the tons and I mean tons of unwanted Rewards and convert them to usefull WANTED rewards. I am not saying a 1 for 1 deal, But a combined trade as we had for the holloween mask trade. If you remember it took mulit items to get higher valued mask. This would also allow Vets to trade in choices made in haste to usefull items now.

    Turn in:
    2 1st year get up to a 2nd year item.
    2 2nd = 3rd. (4 1st year items)
    2 3rd = 4th (8 1st year items)
    2 4th = 5th (16 1st year)
    2 5th = 6th And so on so in effect if you wanted that 10th year its gunna take a lot of 1st year items... if they used only 1st year rewards. I'm sure there are many 2nd and so on rewards people dont want and could be turned in.

    Come on .. you telling me not once have you looked at all the glut and wished for a exchange ? The vast number of soulstones (whole ones) is staggering.. a trade of say 5 dead ones for a 1st year vet soulstone in my humble opinion is a good thing.
    Yes it would put a higher value on the lowly vet dye tub or the statues, But I serriouly doubt it will put them in short supply there are far too many out there.

    If you havent noticed the average 2nd or up statue sells for a good deal of gold.. and a runebook tub or statue tub the same.. so its not devaluating the cost, only cleaning up the glut we have and giving the public a second chance to choose wisely.

    Cal if you do read this I ask for all the players to consider this proposal. The end results will help the game in general just by lowering the unwanted numbers and putting Vet Rewards back in play.
     
  19. Lady Storm

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    I think I can come to Lord Frodo's aid in this...

    1 Clean up Britania
    2 Spring cleaning

    Both cleaned up tons of junk and reduced the lag factor. I for one emptyed 2 castles worth at least on one shard alone! And I play multi shards. All those items turned to GOLDEN NUGGETS as players reduced the over all amount of items in game.
    To quote Martha Stewart... It's a Good Thing.
     
  20. cdavbar

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    There is a matter of pride for many players out there that their account has just turned xxx amount of months or years and is now eligible to use certain items.
     
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    Lest I remind you she went to prison? NOW that was a good thing. :lol:
     
  22. Lady Storm

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    But darling you miss the point... They cant get the 13th year vet reward unless they are old enough to get it..... Same rules will apply to the exchange. if your 5 years old in game you can only get up to the 5th year reward no matter how many rewards you turn in.

    PS. Even now in game a young cant touch a higher year reward till they get that age. I know this for fact, as my new castle owner couldnt take down a vet reward older then him. I had to call a GM to remove it.
     
  23. Cal_Mythic

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    Hey there!
    The concept is not a bad idea, the details of what would be included of course would have to be determined internally.


    It would take a bit to figure out what's right for which years. All in all I would not say a bad idea ... but not something I can see us trying to do for this years rewards.

    But the larger question is ... are you guys even thinking about it?? Well duh!! And we've already picked out the one for 13+ ... It's so cool!!! :D

    See you around!
     
  24. Siabra

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    I dont think a "Vet Rewards Turn-In" is a good idea.. I belive many more things can be improved than that.

    IF you believe there is a "Glut" of the items and they don't sell .. either keep them, give them to new players or toss them ... Find something else to sell to make gold if you can't sell your Vet rewards. that you had either selected or gathered at an IDOC etc.

    If you worried about what you can sell to make gold .. its always the "latest and greatest" items ..

    I believe that having a "Vet Reward Turn-In" is a BAD idea ..

    A) If you do NOT like what you had previously selected as a Vet Reward.. pick out another reward when you can or buy one...
     
  25. Lady Storm

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    Thank you Cal for even considering it. I feel it would be a great when you can do it.
     
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    Dear god... Stop with the carrot dangling and just patch them in already.
     
  27. MalagAste

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    Oh I agree! Please lets get on with it already for pity sakes!
     
  28. Lady Storm

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    All good things come to those who wait children.... give him an inch...
     
  29. Babble

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    of rope to hang?
    :p
     
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    I agree with the idea as well - to give all these Vet rewards and unusable Soulstones a new live would be great.
    *Salute*
    Olahorand
     
  31. MalagAste

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    But if I give him an inch he'll take a mile and it'll be Christmas before we get our 13th anniversary rewards or a proper Halloween!
     
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    Soulstones are account bound items, so you should not be able to trade them in for yourself,(that are not yours) other vet rewards i statuettes, this is a nice idea!

    on Europa THP/Paidric have set up a soulstone graveyard, there are hundreds of stones in there for retuning players to browse through an have them returned

    now thats community spirit!

    so, unless they change the status of soulstones im not sure abou the viability, but other ve rewards YES PLEASE!
     
  33. Lord Frodo

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    :thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1::thumbup1:
     
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  35. Lady Storm

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    I added the Soulstones in the Vet rewards as many are from the Vet system (first year rewards). Id like to see the others added in as an adenda Due to the fact we are over run with them. A small trade in of a few for a new stone would help alot of players out. So why not... I can only see your phisihing about it cause you have afew you use to show off skills you didnt work to your friends and pass them off as yours. Soulstones need to be included in this glut.

    Side note: Cal might toss us in a spring cleanup...??? that would be great