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Vet Rewards

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Rieley, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Rieley

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    Is there any information on new vet rewards?
     
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    I've been wondering about that, too.
     
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    everyone gets a pet orc this year.
     
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    Can you ride it?
     
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    Wait till December, just like the last half-dozen years.
     
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    think the devs stated there would be no higher rewards anymore...which is good ..i think... lets hope they fill out the middle rewards to keep people hungry....im a vet ....and certainly dont want anymore advantages to put newer people off this game ... and it does[as it is].....lets level the playing field...hey make shard shield tokens to 8 years that would help loads....just a thought
     
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    There was a rumor of some kind of "checkbook" that could be used to transfer large quantities of gold through the trade window to prevent scamming, but it was never confirmed by a dev, so who knows.
     
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    There is another rumour they get a golden bull that craps million gold cheques three times a day.

    I think its bs
     
  9. Dot_Warner

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    Not making (a) new reward(s) for the current highest year would be a massive mistake on the dev's part. They are called VETERAN rewards after all.
     
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    At this point it isn't a maybe situation, the devs did not make a new reward for the highest year last year, they made 15th year tigers instead of a 16th year reward, and Mesanna said they plan to never make anything higher than a 15th year reward for the rest of the games lifespan.
     
  11. popps

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    I disagree, entirely.
    All businesses have promotional rewards to reward customers' loyalty to their brands, products etc.

    A product like an online game which relies on monthly subscription, that is time that an account is maintained as active, has its natural reward promotional system, at least as I see it, in rewarding the active account time without stopping the progression of time.

    Stopping this active account rewarding time just diminishes customers' loyalty to the product.

    I mean, when Ultima Online will be 20 years old and still going, there will be a handfull of loyal customers with their accounts old 20 years, all active and YET, their 20 years will be as worth as those who just stayed loyal for 15 years.......

    Personally, I see that as a slap in the face of those customers who stayed loyal to the product the most time and this is not good, IMHO.

    Eventually all accounts will reach any given active age, as long as they stay active over that time.

    Stopping the rearding system at 15 years active acount age empties out the value of being a consistent and loyal customer of Ultima Online, IMHO.
     
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    ditto... like i said iam a vet .. enough of this ********....ill glady sacrifce new top rewards tokeep middle nlvel players in this game...
     
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    They already slapped vets in the face by making vet rewards usable by any age account, that destroyed 90% of the uniqueness of veteran accounts, but it was good for the community as a whole. We got used to it, we will probably get used to this to eventually.
     
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    dont let greed enpower u over the good of our game
     
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    it was stat3d by mesanna no higher than 15 years would be made again.. lets keep tight and think for the good of the game....
     
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    looks foward to the golden bull.. we aint had any bull statues yet...wouod be nice,,,maybe 4-5 years reward max
     
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    I do completely understand that people feel like the devs are being unfair to their most loyal customers, I was pretty offended at first when they made vet rewards usable by anyone, but after about 2 years of seeing how happy that made all the players who don't have old vet accounts, I believe it was worth it. Same applies for this, would I like to be one of only a few who have a 17 year reward? of course, but I would be much happier knowing that hundreds of players are enjoying the new gifts, instead of just me and a few others.
     
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    Well the only things left for me are shard shields. So on my younger accounts it's nice to make a coin off selling seed boxes and light houses to anyone that can buy them. I'm glad anyone can use them.
     
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    It was wrong, VERY wrong to stop Veteran Rewards at 15 years.

    They are VETERAN rewards and they should go along with the veteran years which accounts stay as active, period.

    Just imagine, should Ultima Online keep going for 30 years....., those players who stayed loyal month after month, year after year for 30 long years to Ultima Online will be rewarded just the same as those players who have a mere 15 years old active account, half of theirs.....

    Personally, I think this is just flat out wrong and a slap in the face of those players who never stopped being loyal to Ultima Online.
     
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    The experiences we have had as veterans, those are still the rarest of all.
     
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    They reward us in other ways now Popps, that's why they created the veteran titles, the 18th year one is Ascendant of the Avatar. No one has it yet. They said they will probably continue adding new veteran titles forever, every 2 years the account gets a new title.
     
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    but think of the new 2 year player... hes liking the game... but hell hes gotts stick around for another 12 years to use the shard shileds.. what incendive doe that have for the newer player... uve got to stop this want want want attitude... think for the good of the game freinds
     
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    Another bonus for newer players is they can sell their veteran rewards to get gold to be able to buy gear and other stuff they can use to have fun in the game if they want to. Which will help keep them playing longer.
     
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    to be fair...is anyone really making gold anywere .... apart form 1.castles on full shards..2. idocs,,,free looot etc... and 3 .. the biggy ..em event drops
     
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    I am all in favour of rewards being usable also for younger years accounts regardless of what year can claim them. No problem with that.
    Qualifying year to claim a Vet reward is one thing, eligibility to use it is another.... they can well be kept separate like with a certain year be needed to claim them but all years be capable to use them.....

    I do disagree wholeheartedly, though, that a 20, 30 or 40 years old active account should be rewarded just like a 15 years old one....

    Personally, I think that Veteran Rewards should go back to be awarded to the top Year as well as some rewards for lower years, but all Rewards be at the same time usable by any year account. Stopping them at 15 years is way too much a slap in the face of those customers who stayed most loyal to Ultima Online, IMHO.
     
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    Shocking that Mesanna would be that shortsighted. :rolleyes:

    It has nothing to do with greed, that's not even a valid basis for an argument. UO likely wouldn't be around if people hadn't stuck with it for 17+ years. Remember, most of those vets have multiple accounts and have poured thousands into this game. Nobody has said the rewards need to be ZOMG LEET, deco would do just fine.
     
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    easy way is to allow 3 picks over 15 yeears instead of 2....so simple
     
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    again like it was carved in stone.. no ..read no rewrds will become available above 15 years.. jesus.. im happy.. i just hope they let newer players use the older rewrds sooner... we dont/i dont need spoiling any futher... talk about get yah cake and eat it.. spoilt brats!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    As I said, the making of Veteran Rewards usable by any age account was acceptable for the good of the community as you said and I do not have a problem with that.

    But to top that with stopping Veteran rewards at 15 Years that was way, but WAY too much and a total slap in the face of loyal customers.

    At the VERY LEAST they should have kept oldest rewards keep going and NOT STOP at 15 years.

    It is common and normal business practise to reward customers loyal to a brand and a product, nothing strange.

    Veteran rewards should have their exclusive rewards at 16 years, at 17 years, at 18 years and so forth meaning that only those top years would be able to claim them BUT also lower years account be able to use them.

    THIS would have been an acceptable compromise, NOT the stopping them at 15 years. That was too much and, IMHO a totally wrong decision and a slap in the face of loyal customers to Ultima Online.
     
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    Whomever decided to stop Veteran Rewards at 15 Years made a very, very bad decision towards Ultima Online Veteran players, IMHO.

    I still hope that they see their big mistake and reconsider it.....
     
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    no
     
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    I'd rather prefer 1 Reward be added for the top year, that is, claimable just by the top year BUT USEABLE ALSO BY LOWER YEARS along with a few other rewards added for other years below the top one......

    Allow more picks so as tobe able to claim more shard shields ? No thanks, just bring back 1 Vet Reward claimable just by the top year but usable also by lower years....
     
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    likeisaid.. 3 picks over 15 years.... insted of .. happy vet then.. and happy new players too...[simple]
     
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    So are people saying that new items added to the mix isn't enough? That they have to be exclusive picks to 16th 17th etc vets only? That really is a stretch. I hate to say it but I doubt the game will be here in 17 years for a new player to ever get a chance to pick them. What if you were a brand new player and thought, wow I gotta be here 20 years to get that? It would certainly be discouraging. I think they should have it capped at like 5 years. At least most people would have a shot at some of the cool stuff before the lights go off.
     
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    Duh, if all Vet Rewards can be used by any year age account, I do not see any problem at all with allowing top Vet Years to claim an exclusive reward from year to year.....

    Even if a given Vet Reward could only be claimed by a 17th Year account, THAT SAME REWARD could be used by a newbie 1 year old account, so what would be the problem ? None.
     
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    Do not mix up CLAMING with USING.

    Claming should be exclusive, using should be NOT.

    For example, let's assume that a new Veterean Reward for 17th Year old active account was to be a WC (toilet), ONLY 17th Year old active accounts would be eligible to CLAIM it, but once claimed, ALL accounts, regardless from their active age would be able to interact with them, use them, trade them, do whatever with them.

    So, exclusivity would only be in qualifying for CLAIMING, not using.
     
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    Just waiting to see what they will be till I start claiming anything again. Rather looking forward to it. But I am hoping I don't have to wait till Xmas to find out.
     
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    Personally, I'm fine with it either way, if they do reconsider and give vets special rewards again, then I get cool free stuff, if they do not reconsider, well, I'm happy that newer players (and I) can have fun with the new items, even though they aren't as special and rare as they normally would be.
     
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    Yeah I got that. Just was having a hard time believing it, lol.
     
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    Shall we then start talking about Events, event items and how they are NOT a memento for participating to a given Shard historical Event but just a way to make hundreds of millions in no time ??
     
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    The events that everyone has a shot at?
     
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    If we start that conversation this thread is going to locked lol.
     
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    Exactly, with the HUGE difference that at least, Veteran players EARNED their right to a better reward (as compared to participants to any given Shard Event...) by paying their account for a longer active time.....
     
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    Well I'd cap it at 5 years to get any vet reward. We can agree to disagree.
     
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    5 years is a bit low...but agreeing to disagree is always useful :) (Sidenote, this is my 1,500th post! finally reached my posting goal Ive been chasing for 2 years! Yes, I have no life I know)
     
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    I was wondering about it, but that's not the same as being concerned about it. Truth is, there is enough cool/fun stuff in this game for everyone to enjoy, regardless of how many years they've been playing.
     
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    Let's face it. If you've been here 17 years, well you may complain but your not going anywhere. You'll ride this buggy till the wheels fall off. We need new players. Getting players back with RTB would be nice too. How about new player rewards? Special items you can only get a as a new player? Some super nice gifts you can only get with a one year account, etc. If they want to sell them to a vet that would be fine.
     
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    That's what new player tickets are for. People exploit the heck outta them.
     
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    OK I'll bite. What's so uber cool on a new player ticket?
     
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    They are free, I have seen a lot of vendors over the years who specialize in selling the junk you get from them, not special at all except you need two to get one of the rewards. Just an easy exploit for those inclined.