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Void Pool Rewards with limited life : do people use them ?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by popps, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. popps

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    I was looking at an alternative to the fire beetle for mining in Felucca on populated shards (i.e. increased risk of getting killed...) and looked at the Void Pool temporary forge with a life span of 4 hours for 250 points.

    Besides the fact that I could not understand whether this temporary forge comes as blessed, what struck me what the mere 4 hours of usage time and inability to re-deed it after partial usage.

    Basically, this means that one should pick it only when having time to spend a full 4 hours mining or the 250 points to claim this reward would get wasted....

    Clearly, this is quite a limitation of usage because often I might have only an hour to play, not a full 4 hours (actually it is rare that I can play 4 hours at UO, continuously....).

    Perhaps some of the void pool rewards have too short a life span ? Perhaps players should be able to split the usage time between different sessions such as being able to stop and go the item as needed ?

    Bottom line is, as they currently are, the Void Pools rewards items with limited lifespan are appealing to players or are they not ?
     
  2. The Old Man

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    Don't think that there are any that I would bother using.
    Even when I expect a long play session RL has a habit of chopping it short :(

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  3. popps

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    That's why I think a change should come for these limited lifespan items, there should be a stop and go switch usable with them so, at least, players could tailor the usage to their gaming sessions.....

    Increasing the lifetime, would not help I think because say that from 4 hours they go to 24 hours for the temporary forge, but I plan playing a full several hours UO session and then something happens in real life and after 30 minutes I need to stop playing, and then I can only play again the following day, the 24 hours life span would do me no good and the temporary forge would have been disappeared anyways and lasted me just 30 minutes for 250 points of the Void Pool.....

    And that's the same issue with all of the Void Pool limited lifespan items......

    By the way, anyone knows whether the temporary forge is a blessed item or not ?
    Because if it ain't blessed, extended or not extended lifespan/stop and go switch, the point of using it in felucca would be moot anyways.....
     
  4. The Old Man

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    A switch would mean I could use a 4 hr item in little chunks over weeks...Probably not what was intended.
    Maybe just run the timer when the char is logged in?

    Given all the other stuff on the Dev list I doubt that it will ever change however good an idea it might be.
    We have to accept that we only have 5(?) devs and lots of changes/new stuff we all want.
     
  5. Frarc

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    I like the mining maps and melting talismans, I just pick them when i can full use them. :)
     
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  6. Minerva Foxglove

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    Same as Frarc . Melting valorite mainly. Unfortunately im the only person on Europa going there , last week no changes in ranking exept my char . So I get loads of points for killing mobs but the Points for rewards are based on waves and as always solo I dont get alot every time. Also some leftowers from last spawn slowly moved down to the hole but refuse to jump before I get back for next round. As soon as I enter they jump and its ower before it started and 15 min till next time. :confused:.
     
  7. Tomarke

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    Honestly I've been critical of this system since it was introduced. I would rather see them fix mining so that it is actually viable again rather than putting another grindfest into the game. BODs were introduced back when spawn sites for colored ore were static and the ore was plentiful. Now I cannot get enough colored ore to fill my BODs by mining because they "fixed" the ore spawn but failed to adjust BOD rewards to scale with the new difficulty. I refuse to sit in yet another dungeon and grind just to get the basic ingredients needed for crafting; because of the introduction of this system and others depending on us to sit and mindlessly grind for points and artifacts to get anything useful crafting is pretty much dead to me as well as combat. I'm not a PVPer so I'm pretty much struggling to find any reason to log in anymore.
     
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    I have never been a fan of time-limited items for the very reasons explained. I like the "switch" suggestion so you wont have to waste a 4-hour item on a much shorter time slot. The other idea that would work would be to just give them use charges (e.g., 500 uses) that could feasibly equate to 4 hours.
     
  9. Troop

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    I use some of the items. I don't care for the timers but that's how it goes.
     
  10. MalagAste

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    I was against it from the beginning... I'm still not a fan.. and I have no use for such things.
     
  11. G.v.P

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    Right now I don't use UO, so the items will last me a pretty long time /sarcasm ;)
     
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    Maybe a slight rework of the rewards for this system is due? I do like the idea of # of uses vs. timed life. :)
     
  13. BeaIank

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    I do like them, specially the cauldrons now that golden is plentiful.
    But as I have calculated somewhere else, the return for the coloured ingot maps is pretty low considering the time you will invest getting the points on the Void Pool, specially since you'll most likely be fighting it solo and thus, won't get too many waves done.

    I'd wish we could destroy the items after their charges are expended (cauldrons, I am looking at you), some of them having more charges (coloured ore maps, that's for you), and that the timer stopped to tick after you logged off, much akin to what was done to SoAs recently.
     
  14. Acid Rain

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    Whats the Void Pool again? ;)
    See my ool ? Notice there's no P in it ?
    I shall not be swimming in anything named Void Pool.
     
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    I wish the void pool rewards were standard Arties with 255/255 durability.
     
  16. Dot_Warner

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    I like the idea of some of the rewards; however, I'd rather have the underlying issues which necessitated their introduction get resolved.

    The fact that we're purchasing band-aids via a terrible grind mechanic completely turned me off to neoCovetous after about third trip there.

    Don't even get me started on the fail that is neoDespise...

    Shame and Wrong were redone (mostly) right, as they are still a dungeon, not some half-arsed mini game grindfest.
     
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  17. Tomarke

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    Thank you for putting it into words more effective than my attempt.
     
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  18. Gidge

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    I have a couple of fishing friends who use the fish finder. If you could turn it on and off like a reward statue, that would be great. So you can actually get to use it. I have a houseful of interruptions just waiting to happen myself!
     
  19. Lady Storm

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    I dont do void pool...
    Now there is some of the featurs of the pool gifts I'd love to use...
    but also there is the time limits.... not a big fan of it.