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VvV has a serious alliance breaking bug! (Be aware)

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Speranza, Sep 25, 2014.

  1. Speranza

    Speranza Slightly Crazed
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    For everyone in an alliance who his looking to join VvV be aware that there is a bug causing your entire guild to removed from their alliance if anybody in the guild opts to participate in VvV. Yes, even if you are not the guild master, it removes your guild from the alliance.

    First: Kyronix is aware of this and is investigating.

    For those not familiar with VvV this is how it's supposed to work:
    • VvV is an opt in program.
    • You as an individual choose to join the fight.
    • You use your guild menu to volunteer yourself for the fun and games.
    • This puts you in VvV but your guild mates are free to continue life as they choose.
    All of the above works as intended. However, sometime around downtime last night many guilds were removed from their alliances due to members joining VvV. I wish you the best of luck to guilds and alliances who no longer have guild masters and alliance owners actively playing.
     
  2. FrejaSP

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    Thanks for the warning
     
  3. Riyana

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    Basically, don't join VvV if you are in an allied guild until and unless this is fixed.

    This is a major problem.
     
  4. GarthGrey

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    Yeah cause we all know alliances are critical to shard stability. :p
     
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  5. Tina Small

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    Wow. When I checked our alliance on Origin on Monday, it looked like it was still in place. However, maybe Lore Denin who heads up the alliance had also joined VvV at or around the same time and that was what saved it.

    I just checked again now and we are still allied with two other guilds, at least according to the Diplomacy section of the guild gump. Guess I gotta find Lore and see if he's still green!
     
  6. Bleak

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    We are aware of the issue. We are working to get this issue resolved.
     
  7. Speranza

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    I'm not sure if you have reached this point yet, but do you know if you be able to add guilds back into alliances? Some people have missing guild leaders due to the age of the guilds and alliances.
     
  8. claudia-fjp

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    There is a system in place for this. Elect a new GM.
     
  9. Viquire

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    Bleak, just wanted to chime in.
    Guilds that lead alliances and have members in VvV do not seem to break the whole alliance. At least not on Origin.
     
  10. Ru TnT

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    Could you also look into alliance members being able to stat each other? Hopefully this isn't working as intended.
     
  11. Speranza

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    Ouch, I'll be happy to test that later, but I'm not in my alliance at the moment :violin:
     
  12. Ru TnT

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    I'm meant that alliance members do stat each other right now, and was hoping someone could look into fixing it. So far though our alliance is still together, hopefully it'll stay that way.
     
  13. CovenantX

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    hopefully this doesn't take long to fix... it's a pain in the ass re-allying guilds every day lol
     
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  14. drcossack

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    Haha, yup. For now, the alliance I'm in seems to be intact, but I don't know if that will last.

    What she said. Also, you can re-ally guilds, fortunately. I'm not too sure of the specifics, but I was in the vent of the guild I was allied with (before VvV terminated it for a few hours) all day. We even fought one another a few times (well, if you want to call it that. It was me vs 5-6 of them. But I did say ingame I'd fight if they wanted to) just to alleviate the boredom of them getting points for unopposed city capturing.
     
  15. Speranza

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    Unfortunately, this isn't always a possibility without reforming the entire alliance due to how the system is set up. My alliance should be fine, but there are edge cases to be aware of.
     
  16. Captn Norrington

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    This is eventually going to be used as a pvp weapon until they fix it to lol, guild 1 sends someone to their enemy guild to get recruited, guild 2 recruits, the spy joins VvV and kills guild 2's alliance, leaving guild 1 with a major pvp advantage.
     
  17. Bleak

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    This will be resolved next maintenance cycle.
     
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  18. Lore Denin (GL)

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    Everything seems to be working in our alliance on Origin but as Tina said the GM of the Alliance Guild joined VvV which may or may not have keep it stable while others joined.

    I did have an issue trying to add a guild to the Alliance but that guild was in the process of leaving VvV which may have made him unable to accept the request. Which might mean its not joining BUT the leaving VvV which causes the issue.

    -Lore's Player
    (edited for clarity)
     
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  19. Speranza

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    When is the next maintenance cycle? I got another patch yesterday but again my guild was removed from it's alliance..... So I guess that wasn't the maintenance cycle lol!
     
  20. Riyana

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    Wasn't fixed. We were re-allied last night and this morning we are un-allied again. :(
     
  21. Viquire

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    Can we get the VvV tag in the guild roster to be persistent and visible to all guild members please?
     
  22. Tina Small

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    As of this morning, my VvV character that is in a guild that is in your alliance on Origin still doesn't see the VvV tag next to her name in the guild roster nor on her search.uo.com listing. Edited to add: Just double checked and yes the alliance still seems to be in place.
     
  23. Lore Denin (GL)

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    VvV tags seem to be inconsistently displayed on the Guild Roster. Not sure why some characters show they are in and others do not. Think they said VvV info will be added soon as well as guild alliances and enemies.

    One thing about Character and Guild search that I hope is added is search by Guild Tag. I had trouble looking up my alliance members because I mostly refer to them by tags. Then when searching by name "You are Dead" they actually spell it " U R Dead" so it took me awhile to find them.

    -Lore's Player

    PS: Another reason I dislike seeing someone's complete skill set is now I'd know which thieves I'd have to target to prevent stealing of a sigil and which ones would lack the ability and not be a threat (100 natural stealing).