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Warrior Challenge (Sep 2014): Slasher of Veils

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by Obsidian, Aug 31, 2014.

  1. Obsidian

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    Warriors,

    Last month we unveiled the Warrior Challenge. I tested the waters with a weekly system and then quickly realized this was more suited to a monthly event. We began the series with Dreadhorn and the thread is here:

    http://stratics.com/community/threads/warrior-challenge-aug-2014-dreadhorn.319567/

    For the month of September, our Warrior Challenge is Slasher of Veils (http://www.uoguide.com/Slasher_of_Veils). Slasher is located in the very center of the Stygian Abyss. He's a good challenge for warriors with his freeze attack and dismount special. Most solo success stories come from archers or throwers, however there was a thread a few years ago about on a Stoneform Mystic Dexxer soloing this foe (http://stratics.com/community/threads/mystic-dexxer-solod-slasher.196739/). There was also a Youtube video of a Japanese player using a disco-fencer who soloed Slasher too. However, much has changed regarding suits and weapons with both Shame loot and reforging. You may have a totally innovative template, tactic, or suit/weapon that allows you to best this boss with ease. Let's see what you have to share! Here are the rules:

    1) Post recent info and screenshots of your warrior battling the Warrior Challenge foe.

    2) Include any info you want on your template, gear, unique tactics employed, etc.

    3) Discussion and suggested improvements by other community members are welcomed.

    These don't have to be solo events, but please keep this focused on warriors. I look forward to hearing your stories. Also, I anticipate Publish 86 will go live during this month. Please post nice loot pieces you get from Slasher after the publish. Good luck!

    -OBSIDIAN-
     
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  2. Duncan Drake

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    Ah slasher. Will be a bit difficult for my bushido paladin. But i will try :)
     
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    A challenge indeed.

    I've managed to do it no deaths with two accounts (one ONLY used for discord and peacemaking masteries) on a sampire. May have used a glitch for it though. A thrower/archer is easier but took longer too. Havent tried that with discord though.
     
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    Let me get this right....we go from dread horn....to slasher of veils ??? That is your idea of a gradual transition in difficulty??
    Roflmao @Obsidian ...you are evil!

    Ok this is gonna leave a mark...but I will give it a go
     
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  5. Duncan Drake

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    I had hoped for shimmering effusion. Got some practice with it this weekend. Managed to kill it 3 times in a row now wirhout dying.

    But the slasher.... Postings i found so far make me think thats its nearly impossible to kill it as a melee due to his fear attack even with healing.

    Still wondering if there is a way to avoid the fear attack
     
  6. CorwinXX

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    It is easy with a ranger char. I have a video 23.5 min by my Melee Archer.

    It is doable 2x faster with a melee char:
    120 sword/mace/fencing
    120 bushido
    120 parry
    120 tactics
    120 anatomy
    90 disco
    90 music

    Probably it would be easy with chivalry instead of bushido (go with a shield). In this case you can heal/cure and remove curse... but I never tried this way (I like evasion too much).

    p.s. I could make a video if someone sells me a lot of disco SOAs.
     
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    Archers and Throwers are warriors too. This one will be fun. Shimmering will be a future month. If you have foes you want me to consider for future months please send me a PM.
     
  8. Duncan Drake

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    Couple of questions here.

    1st how to survive fear as a melee char?
    2nd Swapping bushido with chivalry would result in increase mana cost for special moves. Are you sure here?
    3rd is disco really needed here? And where to get all those skill points? Your template above has 780 skill points. And i guess you want to bring music and disco up to 120 with jewelry or am i missing sth?
     
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    With 120/120 you usually loose per fear/rain combo about 100 hp (providing you drink a GH potion). When it disco'ed it very rare uses this combo. Just use Evasion when your hp drops under 100 (usually only after its dismounting spell).

    I haven't any problems with mana... except when I was mana-drained.

    I had two jewels set:
    1. 30 music, 30 disco, 50 EP (used it to disco and to drink potions)
    2. 20 SSI, 60 skills, and other mods
    I switched to the second set after applying disco.
     
  10. Duncan Drake

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    do you need a minimum skill to keep up disco? (music)
     
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    I think no. I just have not any other items with disco/music skills.
     
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    Isn't the a talisman with disco and music on it....or am I thing music and provoke?
     
  13. Duncan Drake

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    Its music and provoke. But with it 85 music would be enough. And there is the songwoven mantle with +10 music on it. Unfortunately its elves only and my char is not an elf.

    And mark of travesty with +10
     
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    Theoretically you can have:
    shame ring 20 music + 20 disco
    shame brac 20 music + 20 disco
    mark of travesty 10 music + 10 disco
    exceptional pole 15 disco
    song woven mantle 10 music
    minstrel talisman 5 music
    Total: 65 music + 65 disco
     
  15. Duncan Drake

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    nice thx a lot for the info. didnt remember the exceptional pole. crafted a couple with a heartwood runic sa and got a +14 disco one. very nice
     
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    Have you other 10+ disco poles you could sell me?
     
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    Ok i tried Slasher and killed it. Corwins idea worked quite well.

    My Template:
    Sword 120
    Bushido 120
    Chivalry 120
    Parry 89
    Tactics 120
    Music 75
    Disco 76

    With jewelry, mark of travesty and the fishing pole i could bring diso and music up to 120.

    For the tactic, I lure slasher to the hellhounds. He always attacks them, so he didnt hit me all the time. I died 2 times in the fight because of falling rocks and the fact that i was poisoned. didnt have cure potions with me.

    Here is a picture:

    [​IMG]

    I didnt craft more so far. but ill se what I can do, i have some heartwood saw charges left
     
  18. Tuan

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    Isn't that circular room some sort of weakener for Slasher?
     
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    thought so too but i didnt see any difference
     
  20. Ender

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    I've heard that as well but never noticed a difference either. Better off kiting around that 10x10-ish square in Duncan's picture, especially if you're a ranged character.
     
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    It is a myth. There is no weakening effect in the center room.
     
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    Duncan can I ask a question.....like why the heck didn't you honor that ugly mofo before you attacked it??

    What am I missing?
     
  23. Tuan

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    Death cancels honor ... then the slasher is too injured to honor on 2nd try.
     
  24. Duncan Drake

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    Honestly. I wasn´n able to honor slasher because when i first came along he was slightly damaged. dont know why. only little hp. I thought I´d wait till he was full again. But it didnt look like that would happen. so i just decided to start.
     
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    Ok did him again. This time I took along cure pots. When stonerain came i quickly switched to 1h weapon + epot ring. 1st cure if i was poisoned then healing pot. there was never any true danger of dying. he even did stone rain 7 times this try, finally i killed it. I honored him this time but didnt get a drop -.- here is a screenshot

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    Obviously you dont die much Tuan... :) take it from someone with 120 death-skill ...death doesnt cancel honor on anything I have killed. You just get a msg saying, you dont need to honor this creature again.

    Duncan...maybe the slasher buffed itself the first time with a bless and it had the same effect as be a little hurt???
     
  27. Duncan Drake

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    maybe. or someone ran along before i arrived
     
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    A bless should go away but if it took a few hundred HP damage it could take a while to regen those....
     
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    I die quite often, but since I generally walk around @0 bush skill I don't pay too much attention to honoring things.
     
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    Yep, honor stays after death. Experienced it plenty of times.
     
  31. CorwinXX

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    how long did it take?
     
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    Good question. Forgot to start my stopwatch. From my feeling sth between 15 and 20 minutes. When i do him the 3rd time ill stop the time.
     
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    I managed to get him on pure Paladin setup (no bushi, no necro, but healing and HLL weapon) but it took more than 1,5h. Tactics was hit twice AI doing 140-190dmg then run, wait a 2 sec and go hit again. In this way i wasn't frozen by spell there and didn't die. I think that's a good result for my original and not often used setup anymore (it's not best for solo, but very neutral can handle a lot of things). Will post details of my setup on new topic soon on forum.

    btw. i had some problems with lags because i live in EU and play on Atlantic - that also made my time get so long.
     
  34. Tuan

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    I feel your pain. I play Chessy from Germany...
     
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    ok 3rd kill, no deaths but 10 stone rain. stopped the time. needed 17 min. 18 sec.
     
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    You have mentioned a few times falling rocks or stone rain, and in particular that the combination of this and being poisoned cost you deaths. Can you elaborate on what this stone rain is?
     
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    Slasher sometimes paralizes you and casts stone rain. It does damage over time and you cant move or cast spells for about 10 seks. Healing works so do healing pots. But when you are poisoned healing pots dont work. That was my fault in the first try. But the other trys i had greater cure pots. You can use them and soon after that use a greater heal pot. Then the chance of surviving this attack is quite good.
     
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    So, first attempt using a mystic fencer. Time was around 55 minutes, based on potion use, including one deathrobe from an unlucky combo.
    Will make a few more attempts , trying to figure out which weapon to use . Used a leafblade , will also try a balanced spear . Also need more practice , hard to get spells off sometimes.

    Update, second attempt. 42 minutes according to video. Used a spear this time and did fight him in the hellhound area. Much better this time, as he gets distracted by hellhounds now and then.
     
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    Well, I just gave this a try... it did not go well. Here's the template I used.
    120 swords
    120 tact
    100 necro
    90 resist
    90 chiv
    90 music
    90 disco

    With jewelry I'm up to 120 music and disco, or 120 chiv.

    It started out well, get in there, and slasher is occupied by the dogs, so I disco him, chug pots, swap jewelry, EoO and set in.

    It was all going pretty well. Then he did the stone rain thing, and even though I popped my shield off and chugged a pot, I still died.

    Made a few runs at him subsequently, and just never really got an traction. PLus when I did die, it took me forever to go get rezzed, and get my swamp dragon rezzed, so I felt like he was healing up quite a bit while I was out and about.

    I also noticed that he has some fire attack that hits me for 80 damage. Maybe I need all 75s on my suit for better survival or something.

    I notice that others don't have resist in their templates, so maybe I can try it with 0 resist and 100 parry, or 0 resist and 120 anat (with jewelry).
     
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    Id swap resist for parry. And 75 resist helps a lot surviving the stone rain
     
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    What duncan says. Or drop necro and resist and get healing and anatomy, put some life leech on weapon.
    Also slasher used to curse you and drop all your elemental resists by 10. That would explain that 80hp firebreath, usually its 60. I just didnt noticed it since i was using stoneform and its been a good while since i have killed him on other templates.
     
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    Yesterday I killed it by my new melee archer on Drachenfels (cheap suit). I haven't Demon slayer composite bow so I used the one without slayer. I used STR/DEX potions (9 of each) but I hadn't Healing/Cure/Refresh potions. It took about 27 minutes.
     
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    Can you post your template, pics of the suit and weapon? It may give ideas to those still working in this boss. I agree he is far easier with a ranged char than a melee char, but both are possible.
     
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    I've tried him several times on my thrower. I guess I don't have my template configured correctly, or I'm rusty. Usually takes me 45 minutes and several death robes. Maybe I need to wake my uncle up and get his pure bard on to cast spell mastery and disco...
     
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    A cheap version of my Melee Archer
     
  46. Tuan

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    Why bother with the melee piece here? I mean, when doing slasher, you want the puppies distracting him, so wouldn't resist or chiv be more helpful in this specific instance than the 110 mace?
     
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    First of all, I haven't solestones...
    90 mace is useful for loss reduction
    may be resisting spells would be more useful but I'm not sure
     
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    I tried again, same disastrous results. I don't think this is possible, for me. I seem to have the same setup, same suit, but some of the tactics mentioned I am simply not capable of. I use the old client, so without these "change my entire outfit in .25s" macros, for instance, when he starts to cast the stone rain, it takes me about 5s to swap rings get my shield off (can be a macro) and drink a heal - but by then I am likely dead anyway, given that he will almost certainly have hit me in melee in that 5s too.

    Also, Duncan says that he managed to kill him and was never at risk... I am not sure I believe this. He just hit me for a 120 HP combo (that big Armageddon explosion spell for 86, flamestrike for 34). With 150 HP, I am theoretically alive and at 30 hp, but being able to heal quickly enough before he lands another attack is problematic, at best, and so is never letting myself get below 120 HP, given that he basically never hits for less than 25 at a time anyway. Prior to that, he hit me for a 93 damage single attack, and I swear this attack first knocked my off my dragon, and then applied damage, because I was half a screen away from him when it happened.

    Also, I found that paying attention to disco was more problem than anything. If you need to run off, running < 15 tiles away is kind of pointless because by the time you get a close wounds off, chances are he's landed another 25-35 damage attack anyway, therefore entering you into a 0 sum game. But then trying to swap jewels, as stated a pain, and redisco him (at best a 50% chance), swap jewels back in, etc. takes quite a lot of time and concentration.

    I would *really* love to take the 20 minutes and watch the video of someone successfully doing this, as in my current state, I simply don't think it is possible for me, not without getting super lucky and him never doing one of his combos that is nearly guaranteed death.
     
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    Tuan.... Thanks for sharing...you did better then I would have....I would want to honor it...then send in 2 GDs to tank before attacking....

    Perhaps I need to rename my sampire to ralos the coward :)
     
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    I'm going to swap the disco/music combo for Mystic/Focus and give it a try in stone form. Lets see how 80 resist does.