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Warrior's Guide. Part 5. Pure warrior templates.

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  1. CorwinXX

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    5.1. Template design


    5.1.1. Base

    120 weapon skill
    100 Tactics

    Weapon skill determines both you hit chance and your opponents hit chance. Therefor it's very important to maximize it.
    You also need 70/90 weapon skill to use special moves. This is why you can't replace it with Mage Weapon property. You can't be effective warrior without using special moves. For example, Double Strike doubles your damage.
    You need 70/90 Tactics to use special moves. I recommend to have at least 100 Tactics because you will get additional 12.5 DI for 10 skill points (6.25 DI bonus for having GM Tactics).
    To use special moves you need 70/90 real skills. Bonuses from equipment don't count.


    5.1.2. Damage multipliers

    Damage multipliers are Perfection (Bushido) and Enemy Of One (Chivalry). You should have at least one of this skills. There is a positive feedback effect: less damage => less mana leached => not enough mana for special moves => even less damage. Without this skills you will be able to fight effectively only monsters that have a lesser slayer (like Dragons, etc) or have the second slayer (like Flame, etc).

    I suggest you to have both. If you can't than take Bushido for melee chars (except you're going to Parry with a shield) and Chivalry for ranger chars.

    You need 50 Bushido to gain Perfection. I suggest to have 120 Bushido if you as well have Parry. Reasons are WhirlWind Attack, Confidence and Evasion. Without Parry 80 would be enough (to get 5 mana reduction on special moves).

    You need 84 Chivalry to get 50% Damage Multiply with EOO. I suggest you to have 95 to get 100% chance to cast. Some people think that it's not important to turn on EOO from the first attempt. Well, they are true... but it's very important to turn off EOO from the first attempt. Since Fast Recovery Time for Chivalry spells is 2.0s (0.5s with 6 FCR) you may be dead by this time.
    If you going to use Divine Fury to get 15 SSI + 20 DI + 15 HCI you need 120 Chivalry (15 SSI is the most important here). With 120 Chivalry you as well be able to use Holy Fire vs crowd (although if you have 120 Bushido and melee weapon skill, WhirlWind is more effective because you leach life from WW damage).


    5.1.3. Parrying

    Parry is good to have. It helps a lot (especially in combination with Bushido) but it is not "must have". There are the most popular combinations:
    - 120 Bushido + 120 Parry to maximize your defense
    - 120 Bushido + 60 Parry to get 10 mana reduction on special moves
    - 0 Bushido + 100-120 Parry if you use a shield (there is 5 block chance bonus for having GM Parry or Bushido)


    5.1.4. Divine Fury

    You can use DF for stats. With 120 Chivalry and 20k karma you get +20 DI, +15 SSI, +15 HCI, -10 DCI.

    The most important stat of above stats is SSI. It's allow you to use slower weapon with the same suit. The difference between 3.00s 2H weapon (14-17 dmg) and 3.25s 2H weapon (15-18 dmg) is 6.5%. For 1H weapons this difference even more. The difference between GM and Legendary Anatomy/Tactics is about 6%. So in situations when you can use slower weapon you don't loose damage if drop Anatomy and Tactics to 100 and train Chivalry to 120 instead.

    If your suits is designed to use DF for stats you can also use DF to refresh Stamina.

    Maintaining DF on requires time and mana.
    Casting time may be a problem when you as well need to maintain Concentrate Weapon on and/or need to switch Enemy Of One often. As a result if you haven't FC/FCR you usually do some swings without EOO/CW/DF or can't cast Confidence/Evasion in time. Without FCR you also do swings without special move every time you cast DF.
    Mana cost may be a problem when you are mana-drained.


    5.1.5. Healing

    You need do decide how you will heal yourself. The most effective ways are:

    - Cursed Weapon (required Spirit Speak)
    - Vampiric Embrace
    - Hit Life Leach (required good suit, usually 35 SSI without weapon)
    - Healing (required Anatomy)
    - Chivalry (required FC/FCR)


    5.2. Templates core


    5.2.1. Melee

    Classic melee template could include 120 weapon skill and 100 of each Tactics/Bushido/Parrying/Anatomy/Chivalry.
    120 Bushido + 80 Parrying gives you about the same chance to block (25%) as 100 Bushido + 100 Parry and increase effectiveness of Bushido skills.
    95 Chivalry is enough for 100% succeed EOO. There are no much reason to have more.
    320 points in Weapon/Bushido/Parrying grant you with 10 special move mana cost reduction (SMMR). You can drop Parrying to 60 (120+120+60=300 points in Weapon/Bushido/Parrying) and still have the same mana reduction. In this case your chance to block will be 20%.

    If you want to use 2H weapons you should take Swordsmanship. If you prefer 1H weapon then your choice will probably be based on swing speed of main AI weapon (but keep in your mind that the only good 1H WW weapon is a sword).

    Here is the template for melee weapon (595 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parry 60
    Anatomy 100
    Chivalry 95

    You have a room for one more skill. Usually it's s skill to heal yourself (Healing, Necromancy, Necro/SS combo). If you want to add a pair of skill (Disco/Music, Mysticism/Focus) you need to sacrifice one of this skill.
    Sacrificing Anatomy means 15-20% less damage. But it's impossible if you're going to use Healing.
    Sacrificing Bushido and/or Parrying means less defense and more costly special moves. With 100% HML weapon you're able to chain AI even without SMMR.
    Sacrificing Chivalry means less damage bonus. But with 100% HML weapon and max SMMR you need only about 100 damage to chain AI.
    Usually you can have 15 skill points on your jewels. With reforged/reinforced armor it's like a standard. But it's possible to have even 100+ skill points.

    There are situations when a melee warrior can do pretty well without Chivalry:
    - Lesser slayers: Dragon, Ophidian, Terathan, Spider (Navrey Night-Eyes), Scorpion (Miasma), Air/Fire/Earth Elemental (Shame)
    - Super slayer + talisman: Ice for 'ice' monsters, Flame for 'lava' monsters, Vermin for 'rat' monsters, Trinket for undead monsters
    As you see there are a lot of places to farm with a pure Samurai.


    5.2.2. Ranged

    Ranged templates are very similar except you needn't Parrying. Without Parrying there's no much difference between 120 and 80 Bushido. In both cases you get only 5 SMMR. Since 50 HML is max for ranged weapons you can get problems with chaining special moves. Possible decisions are studded/stone armor (55 LMC) and Yumi (Double Short usually does more damage than Armor Ignore).

    Here is the template for melee weapon (495 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 80
    Anatomy 100
    Chivalry 95

    Archery has some advantages over Throwing:
    - Range doesn't depends on your Strength
    - Thrower does about two times less damage on the last quoter of his range
    - Bows/Crossbows have 50 more imbuing weight and can be enhanced for additional mods
    - 20% damage reduction with an armored swamp dragon
    - Quivers give you 10% DI when you use Archery

    The only drawback of using Archery is its high cost (this guide is written in 2013, prices may change later):
    - good reforged and enhanced bow worths 20-30m
    - you usually spend 1-2k arrows per hour (30-40gp per arrow)
    - tinker's legs are too bad compared with a berserker's plate so you usually need expensive 10 SSI jewels

    I suggest you to go with a Thrower if you are not ready to spend at least 300m for your suit.


    5.3. Standard "pure warrior" templates

    Combined templates (Necromancy/Spirit Speak, Musicianship/Discordance, Mysticism/Focus, etc) will be discussed in the next part of the guide.


    5.3.1. Classic warrior

    Core (685 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parrying 60
    Anatomy 100
    Healing 90
    Chivalry 95

    If you want more offense you get 120 Tactics/Anatomy. If you want more defense you get more Parrying/Healing. High-end suit could include two sets of jewels: one with 20 Tactics, 20 Anatomy and another with 30 Parrying 10 Healing so you can chose between offense and defense depending on situation.

    With this template is better to use a 2H weapon with SSI and reforged HML (other mods are Super Slayer, HSL and DI).

    The main drawback of this template is low healing rate. 36-60 per bandage is about 10 hps (hp per second). With 120 Healing/Anatomy and enchanted bandages you heal just 20% more (45-73 per bandage). You heal even less when taking heavy damage (27+ ???), cursed (DEX), poisoned. You can't heal when Mortal Stroked.
    Another drawback is absence of Resisting Spells. High level curses and mana drain greatly reduce your damage. And there is no skill to replace with Resisting Spells.

    The main advantage of this template is that you can heal when you are stunned, are running, haven't mana. Also you needn't good high damage to survive.
    Template drawbacks are compensated by ability to run away and heal.

    This is pretty good and versatile template. You can do well against any kind of monsters. I suggest this template to all new players. Start with 50 Healing, 50 Chivalry, 20 Bushido and after completing New Player Quests you will be able to farm pretty well.

    Example (735 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parrying 60
    Anatomy 120 (more healing, more damage)
    Healing 120 (to don't worry much about being poisoned)
    Chivalry 95


    5.3.2. ABC archer/thrower

    Core (585 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 80
    Anatomy 100
    Healing 90
    Chivalry 95

    It's similar to a classic warrior template. Without Parrying you have room for one more skill. Usually it's Resisting Spells.

    With this template is better to use Soul Glave or Composite Bow with SSI and reforged HML (other mods are Super Slayer, HSL and DI). Archers can also have a Yumi (DS often does more damage than AI).
    Since it's impossible to keep 180+ Stamina in a serious fight you need 60 SSI (to have 1.5s with 150 Stamina). The best way to get 60 SSI is: 30 (weapon) + 5 (ring) + 15 (DF) + 10 (berserker's plate for a thrower, ash enhancing for an archer).

    Ranged characters take less damage (and it's more easy run out of range to heal without taking additional damage when it is needed) so low healing rate is not problem. You can add Resisting Spell to counter Mana Drain and curses. The main drawback of this template is low HML. Even with 55 LMC you need to do 225 damage to chain AI. If you are not able to chain AI you do less damage.
    Another drawback is absence of AoE (Area Of Effect) damage. So Holy Fire is the second reason to cap Chivalry. Having FCR will help a lot in this case (and it also helps to maintain DF on).

    The main advantage of this template is that you can heal when you are stunned, are running, haven't mana. Also you needn't good high damage to survive. I also suggest this template (with Throwing) to all new players. If you mark focus up at beginning you will be able to use a Healing Stone.

    I suggest you to have a balanced crossbow and equip it:
    - to drink potions
    - to don't hurt a monster before starting honored combat

    This is an excellent template. It's versatile and powerful at the same time.

    Example (740 skill points):
    Weapon 120 (5 points on a quiver/wing)
    Tactics 120 (need as much damage as possible to chain AI)
    Bushido 80
    Anatomy 120
    Healing 100 (healing is not as important as for melee character)
    Chivalry 120 (DF and Holy Fire)
    Resists 80 (would be 110 with 770 skill points)

    My envasion archer has (770 skill points):
    Archery 120
    Tactics 120
    Bushido 120
    Wrestling 60 (special move mana reduction)
    Anatomy 120
    Healing 110
    Chivalry 120
    I haven't Resisting Spells but AI costs me 18 mana only. If I switch 120 Bushido + 60 Wrestling to 80 Bushido + 100 Resists I'll get a classic ABC archer.

    Example without Healing (720 skill points):
    Archery 120
    Tactics 120
    Bushido 120
    Anatomy 120
    Resists 120
    Chivalry 120
    (2/6 or may be 3/6 casting)


    5.3.3. Sampire

    Sampire means Vampire Samurai. Sampire uses Vampiric Embrace to heal. It leaches 20% of damage.

    Core (694 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parry 60
    Resisting Spells (Anatomy) 100
    Necromancy 99
    Chivalry 95

    You can choose between Anatomy and Resisting Spells depending on monsters you are going to fight. Resisting Spells is more versatile but in the most cases you prefer Anatomy for more damage.
    When you chain AI/DS you usually do 150+ damage per hit. This means you heal 30+ HP per hit (25 hps). You heal yourself even when you are poisoned or mortal stroke. In addition to life leach you get 3 MR and 15 SR.

    The main drawback of this template is that you must do damage to heal. So you can't heal when stunned/charmed.
    You also hardly able to heal without mana because your damage usually is low without special moves. It a good idea to have a 100% elemental damage weapon in your backpack for cases when you are mana-drained by a monster with high physical resist.
    Sampire is not versatile. There is a curse that converts leach from healing to damaging property. For example, try to kill a mage at Shame level 5. Monsters with stun and heavy damage (like Slasher) are also a big problem.

    This is the most popular template.

    Offensive example (734 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 120
    Bushido 120
    Parry 60
    Anatomy (Resisting Spells) 120
    Necromancy 99
    Chivalry 95

    Defensive example (734 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parry 100
    Resisting Spells (Anatomy) 100
    Necromancy 99
    Chivalry 95

    My sampire combines offense and defense. With one ring she has 115 Tactics and 115 Anatomy, with another ring she has 50 EP and 120 Parrying.

    Note: There is no much sense to be a ranged "Sampire". A melee Sampire is able to stand toe to toe against almost any monster. Being ranged just means you leach less mana and need 40% more SSI to get max swing speed (a composite bow has the same dps as a bladed staff). Compared to an ABC archer you get a powerful leaching ability (that you usually needn't) but you lose versatility.


    5.3.4. Bushido Paladin

    The main drawback of a classic warrior are low healing rate and absence of Resisting Spells. You can work around the both drawbacks by adding 100% HLL to your weapon and replacing Healing with Resisting Spells. With 100% HLL you leach at average 15% of damage. It's just slightly less than VE. You also don't worry so much about being poisoned or mortal stroke.

    Your main weapon usually have reforged HLL and imbued DI/Slayer/HML/HSL.
    Since you can't reforge both HML and HLL you weapon must be slow enough to leach Mana for special moves with imbued HML. So your weapon shouldn't be faster than 3.00s for 2H and 3.25s for 1H. From the other hand your weapon shouldn't be slower than 3.25s. Even if you have 190 max Stamina you usually have less than 180 Stamina in any serious fight (so you will need 35 SSI on your suit for 3.25s weapon).
    It's better to use 2H weapon with this template. More damage means more mana leached that is important with just 75/82 HML imbued. Besides this the weight of HLL/HML/Slayer is 394 so you would add just 30 HSL and 26 DI on 1H weapon. On 2H weapon you can add 50 HSL and 50 DI.

    Although it's possible to get 20/35% SSI on your suit it's much easier to get it with DF. So 120 Chivalry is counted as a default for this template.

    Core (620 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Anatomy 100
    Bushido 120
    Parrying 60
    Chivalry 120

    You can add 80+ Resisting Spells or ... 80+ Healing. Yes, Healing. It's allow you to combine advantages of both - sampire and classic warrior.
    Another possibility is to get all listed skills to 120. In this case you will need Protection a
    When you use DF for stats you can usually add at least 30 skill points to your jewels.

    It's a very good template. I believe it's better than Sampire. But it became possible just about 1 years ago (with reforging/reinforcing patches). Besides this it's require very good suit. This is why it's no so popular as Sampire yet.

    Offensive example (750 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 120
    Anatomy 120
    Bushido 120
    Parrying 60
    Chivalry 120
    Resists (Healing) 90

    Defensive example (750 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Anatomy 100
    Bushido 120
    Parrying (Lumberjacking) 100
    Chivalry 120
    Healing (Resists) 90

    Paladin-like example (720 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 120
    Anatomy 120
    Bushido 120
    Parrying (Resists) 120
    Chivalry 120
    (With active Protection and 2/6 casting).

    Note: You can use the same idea with a ranged weapon. But I can count it as a variant of ABC archer.



    5.3.5. Wrammy

    You can use Wraith form to get true mana leach. You leach only when your target has mana. Amount of mana leached depends on Spirit Speak. With 60 Spirit Speak you leach 12% of damage (60 HML = 0%-24%). If you haven't Spirit Speak you leach 8%.
    You can't use Wraith form when you are riding so you loose mobility. You also can't get 20% damage absorption from a barded swamp dragon.

    Usually Wrammies use Curse Weapon to heal. You need just 40 Necromancy to get 100% chance to cast CuW. Its duration depends on Spirit Speak. With 60 Spirit Speak the durability is 19 seconds. So 40 Necromancy and 60 Spirit Speak is enough to use Curse Weapon.

    Wraith form is used when you can't leach enough mana for Special Moves. The main case is ranged weapon. Another case is when you use Leafblade and Feint.

    Here is the core template for melee weapon (695 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 120
    Parry 60
    Resisting Spells (Anatomy) 100
    Necromancy 40
    Spirit Speak 60
    Chivalry 95


    Here is the same template for range weapon (695 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Bushido 80
    Resisting Spells (Healing) 100
    Anatomy 100
    Necromancy 40
    Spirit Speak 60
    Chivalry 95

    [This template will be discussed in more details in the next part of the guide]


    5.3.6. Classic Paladin

    Paladin use a shield, has 4/6 casting and heals with Chivalry.
    You can get 4 FC from ring, bracelet and shield. Ornament of Magician hasn't DI/HCI/DCI but you can get 1 FC/15 DCI/5 HCI/35 DI (or even 1 FC/15 DCI/5 SSI/5 HCI/25 DI) on a shield.

    You stop hitting when using heal/cure Chivalry spells so you should have HLL on your weapon. I suggest to use a Disc Mace because you can imbue high HML/HLL on it.

    Classic Paladin template (720 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 120
    Parrying 120
    Anatomy 120
    Resisting Spells 120
    Chivalry 120

    The main drawback of this template is relatively low damage when you haven't proper Slayer (for example, against some peerless bosses).
    Another drawback is you can't Heal when you are poisoned or mortal stroke. Well it's not really a problem when you fight against a single opponent because you may cure and remove course. But in big crowd of casting monsters it may be a problem. This is why having 120 Resisting Spell is so important.
    You also can't heal when you are stunned/charmed. You can add Healing to your template to overcome this. In this case have 120 Resisting is not so important.

    The main advantage of this template is your ability to heal yourself. It's impossible to kill this char in one-to-one situation. I believe it's true for PvP as well.
    With gargish armor, shield and ornament of magician you have over 400 total resists. So you can get max resists (including corpse skin protection) without wasting any slot. So you can have 16 MR.

    This template is as well very good but is not popular. People rarely use it but usually say "Wow!" when observe how I clean up a champion spawn or fight some tough boss.

    Example with Healing (735 skill points):
    Weapon 120
    Tactics 100
    Parrying 100
    Anatomy 100
    Resisting Spells 100
    Chivalry 120
    Healing 95

    Note: You can use the same idea with a ranged weapon. But in this case you need to replace Parrying with some skill that is counted to special move mana reduction. The most obvious candidate is Bushido. This returns us back to ABC archer/thrower template.
     
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    In Section 5.2.1 Melee,

    The way you make the statement about special mana cost reduction using the example of 320 skill points to allow 60 parrying is correct, but confusing. It would make better since to state that the combined total of skill points between Weapon, Bushido, and Parrying needs to be 300 skill points to achieve the 10 mana cost reduction.

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    Is it better now?
     
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    Looks Great!, Thanks for listening to my input.
     
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    Just a thought from an old vet - The guide's title is misleading. There's nothing pure about most of those templates besides the Paladin.
     
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    What do you suggest?
     
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    I think the title is fine. I appreciate CorwinXX's efforts to better the community. :)
     
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    Your guides are great and I'd be lost without them, but I agree with Kayne because I didn't expect nearly every good warrior build in UO to require Bushido. The only build in your guide that lacks Bushido is a pure paladin. I'm not criticizing your guides or builds by pointing that out, it's just surprising.

    So I've returned and I'm making a Sampire. I gave up on my mage, bard, and tamer. I don't really have much of an interest in those classes anymore considering these warrior templates are so much better in comparison. It seems like the best way to go if you're playing alone.

    To add to that, UO's new crafting systems seemed complex to me at first, but after a little research I see there's a standard path to take in creating items. It still seems weird, as if it's more complicated than it needs to be? There's even a digital purchase on the origin store for an item that makes crafting easier.

    Is it also safe to assume that Elf is the superior race for Warriors? Is female also superior to male because of demon spawn and the ability to wear every type of armor piece? It seems too convenient that the origin store sells character sex and name changes for 10 dollars each, in addition to the crafting.

    Despite all that I'm giving UO a chance. Thanks for the guides since there seems to be no other well-organized sources of information like this.
     
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    In this guide I discuss universal solo pvm warrior templates.

    There are a lot of situation when you can reach 300% damage cap without Bushido/Chivalry. (just ignore monsters that you can't kill)
    Bushido is often useless when you fight in party. (just don't fight tough monsters solo)
    Bushido and Chivalry are not so useful in PvP.


    In this part I discuss pure warrior templates.

    You need just 3 skills to be able to kill most of monsters in the game. Although Bushido+Parrying is a very good combination to add (damage bonus, chance to block, mana saver) there are other ways to go.
    I'm going to discuss such templates in the next part. But I need to try them myself. Since I haven't much gold I need to sell my current suits and craft other suits (in any case 5 char slots is not enough to get all good templates at the same time).
     
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    Female is superior to male but Elf is not always superior to Human/Gargoyle.
     
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    I've very much profited from these guides. The biggest thing I had to learn when using the sampire was how to work the game's targeting system. It also takes a while to learn exactly when to advance and when to retreat, when to kick in the right macro at the right time, what weapon to use when and with what. The first time I went out with my new sampire, I quickly died and was disappointed that this template didn't seem to be as godlike as everybody was saying :) A lot to learn and I'm still learning.

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    Ok long time absent from uo.

    Your guide is really great though i don't like the name samurdin :). Sounds quite strange.
    In my initial thread where i first posted this build i named it paladin template. Sure its not the classic pala template because it includes bushido but i think it deserves a right description. So what about Tokuno Paladin or Hanzo Paladin or sth like that? ;-)

    Additionately i want to mention that corwin is right. The template above is by far superior to the sampire or even sampiredin.

    There is some small mistake though. You should add 100% hll not hlm to your weapon. I think this is some kind of typo in this guide
     
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    HML is typo. Thank you.
    As to template name let's change it. The simplest way is 'paladin' -> 'classic paladin', 'samurdin' -> 'bushido paladin'. Well may be Tokuno or Hanzo paladin... Waiting for suggestions.
     
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    65 chiv is almost useless.

    120 + 110 + 50 < 300

    low damage without anatomy => not enough mana for AI => even less damage => not enough life leach to survive


    One or two years ago I have posted my thoughts about variations of classic paladin template. One of variations was:
    120 mace
    100 tactics
    100 anatomy
    55 bushido
    120 parrying
    120 chivalry
    120 resist
    (5 throwing on the wings and 15 skill points on the ring)
     
  15. Duncan Drake

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    Another question from me.
    Why protection for the 6x120 "samurdin" template? As a human this would lower resist to 0 (joat 20). On my gear i have 1/3 fc fcr here which is enough imo. Have no real casting problems. In addition the -15% physical resist is not gear friendly (with all rsists 75 at dci 20) even more problematic
     
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    Protection is good if you are not going to use Resisting Spells. It allows you to use Remove Curse, Cure (Cleanse by Fire), Healing (Close Wounds) and don't worry about interruption. It's especially important when you are poisoned and want to remove Blood Oath or Cure fast. With protection you still can have 2/6 FC/FCR (it reduce your FC cap from 4 to 2).

    With Mace and Shield glasses, Despicable quiver and 5 studded armor pieces your resists are 65 + 52*5 + 10 = 335. With 4 resist imbues you can get 75+15/75/70/70/80.

    But if you are going to get Resisting Spells then you will go without protection (and probably get some extra fire resist for Corpse Skin). Resisting Spells is good to have in pure templates (when you have enough skill points).
     
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    As a "samurdin" and using protection i dont see any seroius possbilites to maintan 2/6 (FC FCR).
    35% ssi (with df) is obligatory. so max is 1/3 FC FCR anyway. (n 1 jewelry)

    This way I might give protection a try 0/3FCR isnt such a problem. Casting a bit slower wont kill me but being able to remove a blood oath fast is worth the decrease. Though I´m not sure how i can handle the -15% physical resist.

    I was really lucky. Got a decent bracelet with 10ssi, 20hci, 25DI, 8 dex and si1. So with the appropriate 5% ssi ring I can go along without tinkes legs. This way I´m able to put enough reisist on my armour (5parts). But I´m only using plate items (for style). Well we will see what comes out ;-)
     
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    Hmm another question. Does protection help while casting confidence?
     
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    I have never checked but I think it doesn't.

    You need 30 DI and 20-25 DCI on your armor. You can add them even on a pretty common "8 DEX, -100 luck, 10 SSI" jewels (5-15m on Atlantic). If you can get something like "15 DCI, -100 luck, 10 SSI" then you could even add 2 more mods.

    I have crafted a suit that gives me 90-80--70-71-80 (with the glasses and the quiver). I used 4 resist imbue only. Total stats: 40 LMC, 40 MI, 40 SI, 25 HCI, 5 HPI (well my suit also has 10 DI and 10 DCI because I used 3 woodland parts).
     
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    Despicable quiver is not needed i think. I prefer the rangers cloak. With this plus 10ssi jewel, 5 ssi ring i have 20ssi, enough with df for 35. both ring and bracelet have si, bracelet even overcapped hci (20).

    Additionately ill throw in a slither to bring my dci up to 20. guess it will be a pretty nice suit of armor
     
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    I'm going to rename 'samurdin'. What is better:
    1. Tokuno Paladin.
    2. Samurai Paladin
    3. Bushido Paladin
    4. Monk
    (I thought that Shaolin Monks combined both parts of Samurai Paladin nature)
     
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    Hmm monks normally fight without weapons dont they? I think naming the template Bushido Paladin sounds pretty good. Its reflects exactly what it is a paladin with bushido skill
     
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    Renamed templates to "Bushido Paladin" and "Classic Paladin".
     
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