...if your friend is thinking of quitting UO and just walking away and letting full castles and Fel Yew gate houses just fall into oblivion? What kind of information can you offer someone who plays UO mostly to engage in PvP or anything that supports PvP as semi-solid proof that it's worthwhile for them to keep their subscriptions active? All I've been able to come up with for this person, whose main interest in UO is to PvP, is the following: - More behind-the-scenes UO infrastructure is being moved "to the cloud," so obviously EA wants to keep UO around long enough to recoup whatever expense that entails. - If the next publish ever goes live, some weapons are going to do a little more damage and a few have had their special moves changed. - If the next publish ever happens, you may decide you need to keep your crafter account turned on, gather resources and revamp your PvP characters' suits to take advantage of changes. - If the next publish happens and you're interested in having unique titles for your characters and the ability to implement localized changes that affect your fellow players on the shard, you might want to work on loyalty on one of your blue characters and run for an ambassador's position in one of the Trammel towns. - If the next publish happens, you might finally be able to have a house on Siege to make it easier to finish your characters there and PvP/PK on Siege. - If the next publish happens, there might be some new dyes you can get from the turn-in system. - Maybe someday we'll see the return of Order and Chaos and the demise of factions. - Maybe someday the champ spawn system will...be somehow different than what it is today. - Maybe someday your characters will have new boots to wear. - Maybe someday you'll be able to find out which guild and faction your "sworn mortal enemy" (or some character who claims to be your mortal enemy) belongs to now...or if he's even logged in lately. I honestly can't come up with anything else to tell this person to give them a reason to stick around. I haven't played long enough to be anywhere close to being able to claim the top-tier vet rewards, so I have no idea if those are a good incentive for someone to stick around or not. I tend to ignore them and not waste time thinking about them because they're too far out of reach for them to mean anything to me. But maybe someone else can speak to whether or not it's worth putting in the time to get shard shields, polar bear ethies, garden sheds, etc. Can anyone else come up with some glimmers of hope for this person, reasons to keep paying, reasons to log in? They don't play on Atlantic and I really don't know if they have any interest in moving characters there and joining up with strangers to get involved with PvP, especially if they aren't interested in dropping any of their current homes on another shard. I don't want to see this person leave UO. But they're very close to just walking away and literally abandoning everything they've worked years to acquire because they're just not sure if it's even worthwhile at this point to go through the effort to log in on their several accounts and attempt to put any of it on mothballs, so to speak. They're feeling like it might just be time to try to break the addiction cold turkey and just walk away for good.