The thing is, there are a lot more art issues than just Garg stuff. There's a nice thread about certain fashion disasters, it's worth a look. rolleyes: Wait a second..? I could swear EA/M had mentioned that 2D would eventually be abandoned! I have nothing against that client except that it's more prone to cheats, if you know what I mean.. I haven't been following UOHOC sessions but I'd definitely like to know if and when is there going to be another. I'd love to bring up poisoning and potions obviously.. Anyone knows?