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What is the sammy/pally template?

Discussion in 'UO Catskills' started by Bob_the_fart_guy, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Bob_the_fart_guy

    Bob_the_fart_guy Slightly Crazed
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    I am trying to piece together what I've heard for years now to be a good template to solo most peerless's. I've heard that its the same template that the legendary Vallend uses himself. I've sent him a PM on this matter but he seems to have vanished. Please... if this is the correct "Sammy/Pally" template let me know? Or please tell me what "it" is.

    Thank you.


    Tactics: 120.0
    Swordsmanship: 120.0
    Anatomy: 120.0
    Chivalry: 120.0
    Parry: 120.0
    Bushido: 120.0
     
  2. Vallend

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    I have already sent this info to Bob but I thought I would tell it to all of you too. My template is nothing special and many uber players would cringe at it.

    The template you show is the one of the most common Pal/Sam templates and many players have great luck with it. Some drop the anatomy and pick up healing, but most run close to that.

    Now I run a odd template, but it works for me. you have to remember I am a long time player and got the bonus 20 points beyond 700. I also run with Magery to cast EVs when needed or open gates for friends. Plus I also ress people all the time and noble sacrifice would leave me near dead in many areas that I would rather not risk my life. Throw in that I also embrace the Virtues and I am a Knight of Compassion so I ress people with 75% of their hit points.
    I need the focus to help recover my mana because I do use magery and special moves, But thats not all I use. My preferred weapon is the "Soul Seeker" because it has 30% mana and life leech. Plus a 40% stamina leech.
    Also I have a "Totem of the Void" that has a hit point regeneration of 2 and I wear jewelery that also helps me out very much. So you must remember that what you wear and use is important too. It isn't all about your skills.
    Here is the strange Template I use.

    Swordsmanship: 110
    Parrying: 110
    Bushido: 100
    Chivalry: 100
    Tactics: 100
    Magery: 100
    Focus: 100
     
  3. Black Sun

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    A warrior without healing and anatomy?
    I might just as well run naked into a greater dragon's maw.


    Seriously, I really envy those players who can keep themselves alive using magic. The only way I can seem to do it is with bandages.
     
  4. Farsight

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    I had that once, a warrior without healing or anatomy or spirit speak or magery and who didn't use his chivalry for healing either. All my heals were vampire leeching or confidence. It was very effective, actually. But it sucked to be in groups. You could only be the tank, and most groups already have a tank named "greater dragon." And for me group play is where it's at.

    Which gave me this revision
    115 swords, 115 tactics, 100 anatomy, 100 healing, 110 bushido, 110 parry, 70 chivalry.

    I can still heal me with bandages and confidence, I can heal my friends with bandages or chivalry (mana leeching axe is wonderful!) and the damage output is amazing.

    But as far as the "right" template goes, I don't think it exists. There are too many options out there to choose just one (or even 7!).
     
  5. Black Sun

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    I have the same problem. Part of me wishes that we could only have 1 character, but stack as many skills as we cared to play onto the template.

    (Obviously, this idea has some serious flaws, and causes massive game balance issues, but it's still fun to think about)

    Seven is just not enough for me. I want my warrior, mage/scribe, tamer, bard, mule, thief, 2ndary mule/fisher, chef/begger, necro mage, ninja, sammy, resource gatherer. That's why I have 2 accounts with only 1 char who's even close to being finished (as if there is such a thing as a finished character).
     
  6. Dem0nic

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    120 Bushy
    120 Weapon Skill
    120 Tactics
    90 Anat
    90 Heal
    86 Parry
    60 Chiv
    34 necro

    Solo's Dread/Parox

    I also have a slightly diff temp on another:

    120 Bushy
    120 Weapon
    100 Tact
    100 Anat
    91 Healing
    90 Parry
    60 Chiv
    34 Necro

    This one also solo's DH & Parox
     
  7. Nystul

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    wammy:
    120 weapon skill
    120 parry
    120 bushido
    120 tactics
    100 spiritspeak
    60 necro
    80 chivalry

    is what I used.

    have soloed:
    travesty
    grizzle
    paramox
    dh
    shimmering
    doom hundreds of times.

    each one has thier own strategy. almost each one uses different weapons (for me). I use all weapons either arty related, bronze runic, or from a peerless corpse while soloing.

    I'm rebuilding my character on a new account though since I sold the last one. When I get him done if you get keys I'll gladly show you how to kill them all with ease :)
     
  8. Dem0nic

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    How long did it take you for travesty or grizzle for that matter?
     
  9. Bob_the_fart_guy

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    I'm not sure how much chiv you need to rez other players. But I like that template. What is "confidence"??? I love my healing and anatomy. Is there a huge difference in 100 tactics and 115? If you don't think so I would probably opt for 115 healing and 100 tactics. I simply love my bandies :) Thank you all for your feedback. It has been most helpful. :ten:
     
  10. Farsight

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    Travesty with a samurai in vamp form takes from 20-40 minutes, depending on your weapon and if you have parry on the template. I could never finish it on a wammy though.

    There is a difference between 115 tactics and 100 tactics, but it isn't so great that you wouldn't be able to do decent damage at 100 tactics. So 115 (or even 120) healing should be fine.

    Confidence is a bushido spell with 2 effects. First, if you parry a blow you gain (I believe) a few hit points and some stamina. But the better effect is that you gain a lot of hit point regeneration until you get damaged. Between casting confidence and using a bandage, you can go from near 0 to 120 hit points in 4 seconds.

    If I ever need to ressurect a lot of people at once, I have a luna lance on hand which I can grab to cast the chivalry ressurect spell (I used this for hanging out in Casca's hide out during the spring cleaning points thing), but it takes a lot of attempts to cast at 80. Which is another reason that healing skill is good. You can fight and heal/res other people at the same time.
     
  11. Bob_the_fart_guy

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    Ah, I've never used any of the samurai abilities...not even in test center. It sounds wonderful though. I hope it skills fast, I'll be starting out at the very bottom.

    Speaking of the spring cleaning thing...is that still going on?
     
  12. Rowen

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    you can still turn in points, but you cant turn in items for points anymore in spring cleaning. bushido is easy to train. if you are already skilled in your other skills buy up tp forty points at haven and enter the quest there to train up to 50. then lighting strike till the gains slow, depending on how high your scrolled. then momentum strike the rest. i am at 114.3 and gaining fast. just need to find a place where it spawns fast, i go to honesty in ishlner and do the cyclops and titans. vamp form in necro helps alot. i was killing para succubus at 110 skill mace, parry and bushido.
     
  13. Bob_the_fart_guy

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    Well, thank you for the Bushido skilling tip. I'm sad to have missed out on the turn-in thing :( I really wanted a pair of those snake skin boots. Don't mean to "miss-post" here but I do have a LOT of neat crap I'd be willing to trade if someone has a pair? *begs* I really do have a bunch of stuff =-D

    Yeah, I did the New Haven training mission. I'm training up Fencing instead of swordsmanship, so the reward sword don't help me much, heh. Is there a newbie quest that has a fencing weapon reward?

    Thank you all for the feedback. I've been wanting to make a sam/pally template for a while now. And seeing how effective they are...well. I can't put it off any longer.


    BTW,

    What does Vampire Form help you with anyway?
     
  14. Rowen

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    vamp form leeches 25% of your damage as life so it keeps your health nice and full. other templates use wraith form for the mana regain and cast curse weapon for life leech. i like vamp form simply for a mount so i can run when i get in over my head.
     
  15. Bob_the_fart_guy

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    Thank you Rowen.

    And I would like to thank a good friend of mine for the wonderful gift of the snake skin boots. *geeee*
     
  16. Lord Urza

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    Sampire Pwn Pwn Pwns!!

    My temp is

    120 sword
    120 perry
    120 bushido
    50 necro ( 90 with equipment)
    70 chiv
    120 tact
    120 anat

    (Max 720 for my account)

    high stry
    max dex
    low int

    I allso chug potions, and use a soul seeker alot of the time for extra leeches

    This is a powerhouse Tank
    And can solo many many things haha
     
  17. Mark Knotts

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    Just make sure you get your bushido and parry as high as possible. The more you're blocking the better. If you can only increase one over the other, make sure you pick bushido since that will increase your chance for a critical strike (or whatever they call it) with lightning strike while giving the same parry increase. I think at 120 bushido it's a 20% critical strike chance vs 13% at GM. I really don't know what's up with some of these low parry/bushido builds. Using one of the builds here - 90 parry/120 bushido gives 26% 1hand/30% 2 hand while 120/120 gives 35% 1hand/40% 2hand. http://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/parrying.php

    120 bushido/115 parry will give the same parry chance as 120 parry/115 bushido to make it more clear. 120/120 is good because a few % more can really help out, so strive for that if you can. But don't think you can't have a good character with 115/115 or so, because you can. Honoring opponents (atleast harder ones) is also a necessity.

    Some people will add in necro to 35ish, throw on items, cast vampiric embrace, then either soulstone it, keep it on the template, or just down arrow it and gain in another skill. If you die, you'll have to recast it :p. Spirit Speak is necessary if you use wraith form since it's added into the formula for mana leech.

    Some people rock healing, some don't. It can save you up to 90-100 pts onto something else, but it's up to you to decide. I have one that uses healing and one that doesn't (swords/fencer). Good luck. :)
     
  18. Bob_the_fart_guy

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    Hehe, I haven't heard that one...Sampire. Nice. Some very nice templates. And thank you very, very much for the feedback, it really is helping me. I want to have as much feedback as I can get while building my sam/pally here. I'm not above going to test center and fooling around with some of your templates either.

    Thank you so much. I will continue reading up on this thread. So far the best bit of advice I've heard was about using a shield v.s. the bushido skill. Very helpful. :D