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What must i do to solo df?

Discussion in 'UO Warrior' started by tarugobr, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. tarugobr

    tarugobr Guest


    after reading a couple of topics and researchin out for dexxer templates for doom i finally did this one:

    110 swords
    110 parrying
    100 bushido
    100 tactics
    100 spiritspeak
    80 focus
    60 necro
    40 chiv

    45dci, 18hci, +8str, +14dex, di 25
    weapon: soul seeker (40 on all hit leech, 50ssi, repond slayer). whirlwind and bladeweave

    resists (with wraith form):
    68 phy, 44 fire, 42 cold, 35 poison, 65 energy

    stats (no stats ps):
    95 str, 120 dex, 10 int (elf character)

    so my tactics are: wraith form, curse weapon, consecrate weapon if needed, EoO (dont use it on df), lots of light strike, and confidence
    it seens that evasion is not working pretty well against df
    i can stay alive until df cast oath

    im spammin whirlwind for life leechin but oath is killin me

    what should i do to stay alive?

  2. tarugobr

    tarugobr Guest

    i was thinkin about settin focus down and necro up for vampire form
  3. Diomedes Artega

    Diomedes Artega Certifiable
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    Oct 9, 2008
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    Well it seemed as though you were looking at the sampire based on what you have so yes. Drop focus, raise necro.
  4. Diomedes Artega

    Diomedes Artega Certifiable
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    Oct 9, 2008
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    I tried posting a reply earlier...but no luck.

    Anyways here goes again. For starters try to work on a suit that will give you some descent HCI and DCI, coupled with resists across the board of 60+. Try to have 70 physical though and 85 fire...if you are going the sampire route. Which well, it appears you are.

    Your template should look something like the following:

    120 Swords
    120 Parry
    120 Bushido
    100 Tactics
    100 Necro
    100 Anatomy or 100 Spirit Speak or 100 Resist (in your case the resist piece for Doom)
    60 chivalry

    I know you have 110's, but to even think about having a plausible chance in Doom strive for the minimum of 115s to give you somewhat of a fighting chance.

    I could go into the why's all day long in terms of 110 vs 115 vs say 110 vs 120. I cannot stress enough the difference. 120 weapon means more chances to hit which correlates towards more chances to leech back stamina and mana (very important).

    120 Bushido a 7% more chance for criticals vs. GM skill. Doesn't seem like much but it is kind of like zinging when you should have been zanging. It's very important. More chance for criticals is well...more chance for dealing damage. In turn, that correlates toward mob = dead faster.

    Additionally the very important concept of perfection. Less steps needed to achieve perfection, which is tied to the honor virtue. Which is tied into how much HP, mana and stamina you can receive back from an honored opponent. Which is important since...you can get back all 3 stats in a pinch when you are ALMOST dead.

    Moving on. Evasion is tied into your bushido skill. The BASE duration is 3 to 6 seconds. You get a 2 second bonus when you have bushido, tactics AND anatomy at 100 or better.

    It has a cool down of 20 seconds...which you knew (I think). Not something to be relied upon by any stretch of the imagination. Very good in a pinch e.g. you are about to die.

    Okay, going onto PARRY. Think of parry and bushido as husband and wife. They are both ostensibly tied into one another. Samurai's 侍 block better with a 2-handed weapon then with a one-handed and shield. Your chance to block increases vastly every skill of 10 increments. Meaning?

    at GM parry and GM bushido you have a 29% chance to block an attack.

    at 110 parry and 110 bushido you have a 34% chance to negate an enemy.

    at 115 parry and 115 bushido you have a 37% chance to block a hit.

    at 120 in both you will have a 40% CHANCE to block an attack.

    Okay so now sure you will say well that doesn't seem like much. But when you are getting attacked by 5, 6, 7 or even more enemies at once (which is very likely in Doom...especially if you are the lone dexxer there) it becomes very important.

    So the reason for 120's if not at least 115's should be quite clear. Some people don't believe in 120's and think they can play quite fine without them. That is a fine school of thought, but for a dexxer in Doom, peerless, PvP and other important locations near you, you just can't beat it.

    Everything else you can compensate. Those 3 areas you can't and when you are fighting monsters with GM to legendary skills you want to have the best chance possible. Not to mention...you will be AMAZED at the difference between 100, 110 and 120 in these skills. I guarantee it. It SHOULD be THAT noticeable.

    That said, I'm not sure what shard you are on. Even a +10 power scroll should be relatively cheap? I don't look for that sort of thing any more but...You really need at least 140 dexterity. You may not be using healing, but swing speed is pretty important and when you are getting constantly hit and wacked on by 7,8,9 etc. mobs at once...you will want to keep your swing speed up.

    As far as the wammy playstyle?...someone else can discuss that IF that is what you are looking at. I however, can't say I recommend it in Doom. The main reason is that you can't move FAST. Which I don't know about you, but if you aren't using 3rd party programs, many of the Doom mobs move FAST. e.g. some of them you aren't outrunning.

    I recommend chiv dexxer or sampire. Both have different playstyles but rely on 120 parry and 120 weapon. Aside from fighting tactics, situational awareness is pretty important. If you are in wraith mode and that's how you want to roll with it, you are going to pretty much have to macro out your weapon when you get blood oathed. However good anyone may be on this forum, I seriously doubt any of them (myself included) stand there when a blood oath comes. That is just asking to die.

    Other than that, equip yourself with a good weapon that you can execute whirlwind with. I recommend weapons other than soul seeker. If you can get a good weapon with mana leech and stamina leech and some DI...you will be fine. Provided said weapon has whirlwind on it.

    Last but not least, for the individual rooms, have these weapons:

    1. a 50% dispel weapon (preferably fast?) in order to get rid of summons...quickly. They are pesky so...why let them stick around?

    2. a 100% fire-based or 100% cold-based weapon with okay stats for flesh renderer room. He's pesky and fast so...why let him stick around? Get rid of him fast.

    Other than everything I said...you seem to have an idea of what you are doing. Hope anything I said helped. It's too late now to think of anything more.
  5. tarugobr

    tarugobr Guest

    thank you Diomedes for so much information :D

    i just removed focus and put 100 necro
    now im gonna raise bushido and parrying up to 115
    i was thinking about bonecutting and soulseeker against df. or do you still think whirlwind is the best idea?

    im looking for new pieces for my set
  6. Farsight

    Farsight Crazed Zealot
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    May 12, 2008
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    Soul seeker isn't your best choice for a Doom weapon, since all the undeads will be doing 50% extra damage to you if you use it. It can be done, but it isn't the best idea.

    What you need is a variety of weapons and a conjurer's trinket. If you don't have a trinket, then you need an undead slayer weapon as well.

    Ideally, you need a demon slayer weapon with mana and stamina leech. Since you have spirit speak, you can forgo the mana leech, but the stamina leech is pretty much a requirement.

    If you don't have a conjurer's trinket, you also need an undead slayer weapon with stamina leech.

    When I used to solo Doom on a wraith form mace fighter, I had a silver etched mace (undead slayer) with swing speed increase and stamina leech as well as a demon slayer mace with nothing special (Exiler). Fighting the Dark Father meant a lot of weapon switching since the conjurer's trinket didn't exist at the time and I'm not the best at bone cutting. If I went back with the same template today, I could just use a demon slayer weapon against the DF and use momentum strike or whirlwind (depending on the weapon) to keep attacking the byproducts that get away from my lousy bone cutting technique.

    Since you probably have a conjurer's trinket, then bring your best swords weapon for those opponents who take undead slayers and a demon slayer weapon for the DF and the demon types.
  7. Turdnugget

    Turdnugget Guest

    I'd also work on your suit resists as well...with such low fire you could get hit with a nasty explo/fs and melee hit and bite the dust...
  8. tarugobr

    tarugobr Guest

    thank you guys for the information

    but why lots of people choose macing for pvm dexxers?
    is the mace effect against mobs the same as against players? (stamina drain)
    and what does it do? does it make the monsters attack and walk slower?

    thank you!
  9. Bardie

    Bardie Lore Keeper
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    May 20, 2008
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    yes stamina drain, plus 120 macing is the cheapest one :)
  10. NickyDishes

    NickyDishes Guest

    I finally am able to post....anyway i solo df easily with my temp:

    After items if u can believe it this orks for me
    120 Mace
    120 Parry
    120 Bush
    70 Tactics
    99 Necro
    85 Healing
    85 Anatomy
    60 Chiv

    I have a diamond mace that is 42 ML 32 Hld 30 SSi 40
    No Slayer!!! with perfection in vamp form i do enougth damage to keep mana full...
    my suit gives me 70 65 60 64 63 i use ecru citrine ring for ep and use conjurer's trinket...
    i rely heavily on pots hence i bring a beetle full of stuff i need to log down there..
    It's all a matter of style and what u feel comfortable with is the bottom line..
    The posts on the templates to solo df and peerless are numerous on the forum.. no one template does the job...its all about what works for u...but in my opinion a slayer weapon will get u killed quicker cause of oath.. but i survive cause of apples and pots...when i get oathed i go out of war mode and click an apple but if i dont have time u have to run....bottom line.. i jet down towards flesh rend room quick heal and run back up for more..and another tip forget whirlwind...tuck yourself in the famous corner and youll do just fine....
  11. tarugobr

    tarugobr Guest

    your template looks great
    but it seems that u really need a good set
    im working for a good set. by now im gonna keep swords. thank you for your advices. maybe im gonna chance into mace and try