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What would it hurt to give Factions one simple final opportunity?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Hattori Hanzo, Oct 10, 2013.

  1. Hattori Hanzo

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    There remains a place in this storied game for the faction system.

    I ask the powers that be to at least try eliminating faction arties before trashing factions altogether. Please stop selling them, let existing ones time out, and lower the Sigil timers to attract people back. Add a moderate (say 100 or 1000) points limit. Nothing else, just those changes and give us a few months to see how it plays out.

    We have lived under the threat of "Factions is done" for a couple years now. I suspect it will be months before any major proposed change takes place. In the mean time, implement the simple request above.

    Thank you.
     
  2. Orgional Farimir

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    Let me add give faction players a reason to hold towns again. Maybe something like the rewards govs can set in tram.

    Right now there is NO reason to hold the towns. It doesn't matter if they lowered the sigil timer to 1 hour there would be no fighting for the towns.
     
  3. Kat

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    I agree with this!



    All I care about is that factions is not deleted.

    I don't need any additional reason to hold the towns.
     
  4. Martell

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    The only reason factions became popular again was because of the arties. No one except RPers are interested in sigils and holding towns. Face the facts, it's an old system that devs effectively killed off when they upped the silver prices.
     
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  5. Maximus Neximus

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    I use to play factions on multiple shards. I mean, the ONE thing I would do in game (sigils/fights). The faction arties made suits sooooo much easier to make. When they upped the silver prices it killed me playing factions completely across all shards. KEEP the arties, lower the silver cost significantly and give us a reward/reason to hold towns. Then I'll play factions/UO again.
     
  6. Viper09

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    Last I saw, the other system is only an idea. If it will replace factions, it could easily be years away.
     
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    QFT
     
  8. Kat

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    That wasn't the case on Siege, where I play. Factions was wildly popular before the addition of faction arties. Many were very exited about the addition of faction arties, but they just ruined the fun for most of us in the end. Faction arties are fine when you can insure them. When you can't, that means constant and endless farming for people who just want to PvP. Sadly, in this particular case, what works on prodo doesn't work so well on Siege. They are two different beasts.

    Most of the folks in factions on Siege were not at all into RP. It was about fighting and winning. :)
     
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    I basically begged for them to fix factions but after talking to that guy in pms he seems pretty hell bent on removing factions and giving us this honor/virtue crap.
     
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  10. Hattori Hanzo

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    Factions became THE place for PVPers because of the powerful faction arties. That drove out the people intent on playing a strategic game in UO, which is what Factions were before the nonsensical artifact gear.
     
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  11. Martell

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    Factions became the place for pvpers because it allowed you to build suits and chars on other shards easily and made fighting outnumbered possible. Who besides rpers was playing factions post aos? You're clearly out of touch with the pvp community so don't bring it up.
     
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    Nah, it's really replacing factions with that stupid honor/virtue system which will fail worse then factions.

    But you know, that's what happens when a bunch of non-pvp devs try to "improve" pvp by taking advice from trammies.
     
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  14. -Hey Arnold-

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    Add all current faction arti mods to the real artis delete reds and guard zones make every one in fel orange and statable .
     
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    Good idea, upgrade all "normal" arties so they match faction arties. (those arties have needed an upgrade for years)
    Make faction horse rideable from rank 1.
    Lower skillloss timer to 5min.
    Remove faction arties.
    And give factions say 4months, and lets see how it goes.
     
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    ...why did you quote me to say that? My post was simply pointing out that the proposed "replacement" for factions is nothing more than an idea, an idea that could just as easily never come to pass. This was already covered in that thread, numerous times. For all we know that plan died long ago...haven't heard a peep on it in some time.
     
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  17. kelmo

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    Hatori Hanzo my friend... This reaction to your premise is unfortunately why I rarely try to bring up Siege issues any longer. Many of these folks do not realize the different rule set factions has on Siege nor the dynamics of non consensual PvP every where... with out insurance. I am with Hattori on this. One more huge difference to 'Keep Siege Weird"... The artifacts need to go though.
     
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  18. Bo Bo

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    Bo thinks they should tie in the trade deals with factions in fel. Than have the faction vendors give a certain % of sales to cover the cost of the trade deal. But you must own the town to get that %. Also they should tie the guards system into factions, if you own that town you can turn the guards on or off. That is what a sheriff would be for.
     
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  19. Hattori Hanzo

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    Oh so you are the opinion police... check.
     
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  20. Rumpus

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    Tie faction points to faction objectives rather than (or in addition to) killing people at Yew Gate.

    CRAZY TALK!
     
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