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WHO ARE THE TOP FIVE MAGES

Discussion in 'UO Siege Perilous' started by PVP4FUN, Jul 29, 2009.

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  1. PVP4FUN

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    I am newer to the shard and simple wondered who everyone thinks the top five mages are on the shard?? from my limited playing i would say T.K, FORSAKEN, KAGE, al, and sprago just wondered what the rest of you think
     
  2. Speedy Orkit

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    There are about 6 mages on the shard now.
     
  3. Freelsy

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    Well this thread has been discussed in major depth and detail...just search for Best Mages
     
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    Do you mean the top 5, or the 5 who use the crutch of UO Assist? :danceb:
     
  6. Freelsy

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    When did UOA become an uber haxx??
     
  7. Draxous

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    The mages on this shard at a respectable level of skill are:

    Forsaken, Critical Gaming, Asty, Kage, Sunchicken, Speedy and me. (In no particular order...)

    The rest of the mages on this shard are really more the field PvPer types... some have potential (such as Calibretto.) Others, such as Nym, Calypso?, Path. Tib, Sprago, Morgan and a bunch of others are good mages, but field mages rather than duelers...

    I dunno if that helped, but that's a basic run down of the shards mages.
     
  8. onthefifty

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    is there a designated dueling area on this shard, like the yew sheep pen or something like that.

    im on this shard two months and the only real fighting i've come across is the ninja stealth up on u kind...
     
  9. Draxous

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    Player houses (most notably the TnT fight night house,) wrong roof or that arena outside of wrong.

    The in your face fighting is at events, Luna, champ spawns or Guild vs Guild (random locations) Yew gate also sees some action... but rarely.

    Solo artists generally get group ganked or ninja stealthed... we've been trying to get the Devs to help us change that though... not enough incentive to go out and just fight for the fun of it.

    PvP on this shard is more about just killing you... rather than fighting for the fun of it.
     
  10. Ole Cheapy

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    ROFL!!!!!!!!!! Oh my word this guy is so full of himself.... How the hell do you think you can be anywhere near the best mage on the shard when you yourself never even started thinking you were any good until faction arties came along. Give it a rest, kid, you are nothing special at all. Perhaps the question should be who are the top "RED" mages on the shard cuz being a blue mage isn't all that impressive.
     
  11. Draxous

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    I never started thinking I was good until faction arties?

    I've been at the top tier of playing a mage for over a decade now, big boi.

    LOL, good one.
     
  12. nightstalker22

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    It is not a hack, it is a crutch.

    It is not something everyone has, so there is an unbalance, SA I think will level the field again.

    When you can alternate between targeting self for heals and targeting last target for offense, without having to prep last target again, you are 2 or 3 seconds ahead of your enemy.

    On 2D macros, without assist, once you target self to heal, you are last target. Now if you want to cast flamestrike, you have to retarget enemy again somehow, either by clicking on them, or by using "target nearest ______", or cycling through next target previous target.

    If you didnt have the opportunity to pull their tag, you may have a very hard time clicking on them. UOA is a huge advantage that not everyone enjoys, kinda like faction gear.
     
  13. Draxous

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    Ugh... there's just to much wrong with this for me to comment.

    And anyone who doesn't have UOA by this point... needs to seriously STFU about others having it. There's no excuse for you not to have UOA, unless you WANT to not have it. It's a ONE TIME fee of 15 bucks (cheaper than any expansion you've bought) and you're done... so consider it an "expansion" and upgrade your account already.
     
  14. nightstalker22

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    Why stop there? I should get Vent too? Then I can have all sorts of advantages over my victims.

    The reason I dont have UOA is because I see it as a crutch. It was not included in the game, so not everyone has the option. I could easily afford it, but the principal of it will not allow me. Now SA is being released with superior macroing, which will allow everyone to be on equal footing again. I will use it because it is included with the game, so I don't have an unfair advantage, as everyone has the option to use the macros.

    If you're going to compile a list of the best mages ( or anything ), there should be an asterisk beside the UOA users names, thats all. :)
     
  15. Speedy Orkit

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    I didn't use it from 97 until about 2007ish. Guild at the time told me to get it, or be booted. One actually bought it for me though, so it was cool. Although, I still do not use last target(Yes I still bar click, which means those who died to me suck even more than you thought) all I use UOA for is chugging and resource counting because I am very forgetful.
     
  16. Tiberius

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    Based on my own experiences the best 5 I have encountered are Kage, Sakie, Speedy, Mono, and SunChicken. Honorable mentions for Death, Calibretto, Hef, Righty, and Calypso (If you can ever get him to slow down hes actually better than I thought)
     
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    Personally i think top 5 are Speedy, Forsaken, Kage, Asty and TK. *not in order*
     
  18. Elmer Fudd

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    I agree with all those except Mono...that guy doesnt even rank in the top 20....Critical Gaming AKA Crunch should take that spot anyday of him or Meph people in that group or Fruitloops....those kind of guys....but not Mono....lol
     
  19. Tiberius

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    Like I said, personal experience. I watched mono hang with SunChicken one night after SC had dropped me quicker than I'd prefer to admit and I also improved my own game considerably by training with him. I did forget about critical though; he and sakie made a very good mage duo.
     
  20. Leaf

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    Righty belongs at the top of that list. In my dealings with him, he's not just a good mage but he is a class act.
     
  21. Ole Cheapy

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    I would have to agree for the simple fact that he's a pretty good mage and plus he's red, so to me that puts him over all the blue mages instantly.
     
  22. Draxous

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    Vents going to help you duel? It's going to help you push the buttons on your keyboard or click the icons on your screen or hold down the mouse buttons?

    Get real.

    UOA is pretty much utilized for 2 functions. Chugging pots and it's macros (for eating things like apples or using trapped boxes, etc.) Which is something hotbars and UO should have allowed you to do 10 years ago.

    I'm going to go ahead and say anyone who thinks UOA is really a crutch, will suck just as much with or with-out it.

    All I'm reading is excuses.

    ...
     
  23. Ole Cheapy

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    Im going to end this thread once and for all and it will prolly **** a lot of people off but i can live with that.

    A red mage is the toughest char to play on Siege. There are two types of cowards...

    1. A blue decked out in superman gear hugging the GZ

    2. A red that uses hiding and stealth

    I am the second type of coward (it's true) and there are many like me and you all know who you are. Which is why Cheapsuit is training skills now (hate Rot) cuz i;m tired of hiding behind hiding and stealth so I will be out in the opening for everyone to attack.

    This is why I have so much respect for mages like Righty and others like him.

    But honestly i dont know which type of coward is worst 1 or 2.... both are pathetic and I will stone hiding and stealth until they actually make you use the stealth skill and count your steps again while in HUMAN FORM...never heard of any damn ninja cat in my life! (dont hold me to this cuz I'm only gonna try).

    But either way both 1 and 2 are damn cowards and more people need to stop using safety measures and come out and freakin fight. My 2 cents.
     
  24. Ole Cheapy

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    Let me go on record and say that the red who uses hiding and stealth without ninja is not really coward so I apologize to those reds.
     
  25. Kage

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    I pretty much agree with most of that. I honestly love being red. I would rather be red on a Mage.

    The only reason I do not play a red Mage full time is because most of the pvp here takes place in Luna. Luna it self is not really the problem it's all the blue naked tamers who run around putting there Greater Dragons on you.

    A normal day of Luna.

    -Kage is walking around looking for a fight

    -you see Verum

    -Kage ya I smell a gank

    -you see Roy with a greater dragon non faction and naked. hmm not looking that good.

    -You have been hit bye a bola!

    -Verum is attacking you from stealth!
    -Xeroth is attacking you from stealth!
    -Roland is attacking you from stealth!
    -A greater Dragon just bleed you and hit you for 70 points of damage with a fire breath.
     
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    Just from observing a couple of fight nights (duels) in the past, I would say Draxous is an extremely, extremely good mage.

    I know most people (including me) don't like his attitude or maturity displayed on the boards, but he "actively" proves his skill.

    Just my thoughts and he is not even a friend of mine, I just respect his skill displayed.
     
  27. nightstalker22

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    Yes, vent allows you to do many things that those without it cannot. Field tactics and instant communication are priceless in battle. A 1 vs 1 duel? You're right, it is useless, unless you're calling in a gank squad while fighting or having someone stealth over to rez you in the event you fall, they can try to protect your belongings.

    What UO should have done isn't the point. What they didn't do is keep the playing field level, allowing and endorsing the use of third party programs without banning them. Now they are working on balancing the macro systems.

    That is a challenge I gladly accept. I have been dueling with no real way to heal myself, because I couldn't chug pots on the run... once SA is released, I challenge you to a duel.... wheelchair vs. crutch! :)
     
  28. Draxous

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    1. Vent gives you an advantage in group PvP, just like UOAM and even things like ICQ/AIM... but the point is that these things don't make you good or bad at PvP. You, the person behind the computer takes on that responsibility. They used to call the thing I'm describing "player skill."

    2. What UO should have done isn't the point, but somehow what they didn't do is? What if what they should have did is what they didn't do? :coco:

    3. Try practicing PvP (dueling) without using **crutches** like pots, apples, orange petals and the like... when you get to the point that you are sufficiently kicking ass without the use of these things, start using them and see the type of butt cheeks you can put foot to.


    PS. Whenever you want to duel, I'm up for it.
     
  29. nightstalker22

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    ICQ/AIM still require typing, no real advantage there, except having friends lists that you couldn't otherwise have in game because of Guild/Alliance restricitons.

    Player skill was replaced by UOA...deny it more?

    Guild chat and party chat are included in the software, that is all I use. No ICQ, AIM, vent, Yahoo, MSN, etc...

    In your attempt to make me look foolish, you've demonstrated poor reading comprehension ability. Maybe it is intentional, to dodge the point made, but maybe it is willful ignorance. If so, you can ask your guildmates to translate plain English into a pictograph for you.

    I do not use pots, petals, or smokebombs, as I don't use UOA, there is no real way to access them quickly enough.
     
  30. Draxous

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    Before the advent of Guild/Alliance chat, Roger Wilco, Vent, etc... ICQ/AIM were huge advantages for groups of players. Especially since ICQ allowed you to communicate with people who weren't online (something AIM sorely lacked.) There being a big fight going down at chaos... and being able to tell your buddies, come to chaos... was a huge advantage.

    The rest of your ignorance is blah blah blah excuses. You're a cool dude, just in super denial over UOA. I suggest you get the program if you enjoy playing UO 2d.

    I'm going to say one thing... a couple years ago, I used to PvP exclusively in GM armor to make PvP more challenging for me. I had access to and the ability to get good stuff... I, however chose to fight in GM armor. Why? Because I wanted the challenge and to this day there's still a running joke between my guildies and I over GM armor.

    My point?

    You crying about the 'advantage' other people with UOA have is beyond ridiculous. One thing I learned about PvPing in GM armor against people in good gear was that I couldn't use my wearing GM armor as an excuse for my deaths. I chose my fate... as you've clearly chosen yours. I equivicate it to tying your legs together with shoe string before you run a marathon and pancakes about how you didn't get first place.

    So go get the damn program already if it's **that** big of a deal to you.

    Thanks.
     
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    I am not complaining or making excuses. I certainly am not crying about anything.

    My initial post was a jab at UOA users in general, as there was talk of compiling a list of the top mages, I simply stated that maybe there should be an asterisk beside the names of people who use UOA. UOA is the equivalent of steriods in sports... I guess that explains the rage on the message board. ;)

    I use 2,000 gold spined suits bought at Molly Fydes™, unless she is sold out, then I have to buy pieces to make a suit or buy the 5k ninja suit.
     
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    Sounds like my night; I see Verum, Xeroth, Back in Black, and Warwick going after T.K.; I decide to help T.K.. T.K. makes it to his house by the skin of his teeth and of course they all turn on me; no prob I high tail it around the wall and all is goign well until I have the misfortune to run smack into twilight, his bola, and the freakin dragon that does 65-70 points damage. I was running a shown archer temp at the time.

    I had fun vs. Coyote while you tryed to wall me in last night on my mage; i kept wondering if you were gonna just take the count on me:).
     
  33. Elmer Fudd

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    And dont forget...after you die to all that....you hear the famous........You got WTF PWNED NOOB....Jess you suck so bad as a mage....cant beleive you say your any good, and good mage would have killed my dragon, picked up the bolla, shoved it up verumns ass, disarmed Roland and smashed Xeroth over the head with his own weapon,,,,Man you suck.,....lol



    Dont forget the last part...


    P.S. I will still have to disagree completly with Mono being a good mage, hes only an opertunsit...if he feels his template is more dominant and your our of practice, then he will fight ya...once you have some ability behind ya...he will bow out....he in my opinion is one of the absolute worst on the shard.
     
  34. Elmer Fudd

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    Please allow me to explain...

    this is a true example...we were at wrong arena, south kinda at that arena place...it was Sakey/ BR/ Sunchicken Kage/ Pusher (aka) Superstition and Elmer Fudd...there were some TnT guys there also cant quite remember...Super and Sun both did a two on two against Mono and other...Super and Sun were the only ones wearing GM gear and junk jewels, you could tell...everyone else had Good stuff/not faction....Mono would only duel Sun and Super.....Never Sakey, Never BR, Never Kage, Hell I was running a necro archer like I always have with Elmer, the Red Elmer and he wouldnt even duel me, we all had the same gear....his reply was....Im out of practice.....I have seen him do this type of crap hundreds of times, and we always laughed about it in vent, cause he was so predictable....my two cents about that shard coward....
     
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    Just an FYI..Mono was sent back to Afghanistan a few months ago so he is not able to defend himself in being called a "coward." Actually, thats the last thing I would think to call him.
     
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    *nods*
     
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    Nicely said, Leaf. Here we have Mono out defending our country, putting his life on the line and someone with a personal grudge against him over a GAME and petty BS is calling him a coward. Pretty sad.
     
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    so their enemies in the game whats the big deal o_O...
     
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    For one he said "shard coward" not real life coward and for two, more :drama: queen please...what's sad is your reading comprehension...but great way at "defending" your "guildmate" and looking sad...
     
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    Mono i pretty cool and i dont believe he is a coward in game either BUT i know the difference between ingame comments and outta game i took them to say he was a coward in game you guys dont take it the wrong way. and again ill say i dont think he coward in either but there comment was ment for ingame not RL
     
  41. Shakaja

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    ahhhh, too funny.
     
  42. Shakaja

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    i really hope you have the ****tiest computer and internetconnection possible. wouldnt want to have an advantage over someone with worse hardware, wouldnt you.
     
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    now that is just hilarious, br a good mage? bahahahahahahahahhaha :loser:


    you are no where even near the bottom tier let alone the top. :coco:
     
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    I agree with keeping in game, in game. I dont think for a second anyone would challenge Monos char IRL, if so go stand the post or STFU.

    That being said in the year or so I played with Mono he and Fudd displayed a true dislike for each other. it is actually kinda weird, One time I even asked Mono why he was res killing Fudd over and over and he said simply " I dont like that guy"

    The funny thing is people who hate each other usually end up in the same guild and become great friends, happened to me a few times!!

    Fudd, I just think given Mono's current station in life coward was a poor choice of words!

    And for the record I think your hate is clouding your judgement as far as his mage skills go, he is solidly in the second tier or mages on the shard!
     
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    red > blue

    by far 100x harder to play a red mage fulltime than a blue. :next:
     
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    warum isch es so komisch s'Vaterland z'verteidige?
     
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    Don't make me translate this... *stares*

    ;)
     
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    QFT, some people do take the game serious Kat, although they play it off like they dont... What can ya say... :loser:

    :stir: - until next time
     
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    I resent that comment...:D
     
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    aaaaahahahahahaha

    any day you'd like to go at it, let me know. I'll even put a mil on it.

    I remember you talking **** on Sakie and didn't even last 10 seconds. Story of your UO career. :loser:
     
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