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Why are Bane forces attacking my dragon?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Spogfrawn, Jun 23, 2010.

  1. Spogfrawn

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    For no reason that I can tell the bane forces keep attacking my dragon! It starts with just one and then they all go after it!

    How am I supposed to help bane forces if they do this? They do not attack me and I got my points up to 11 before going back down to 1 because I am COMPLETELY UNABLE to stop them attacking my dragon! How stupid is that!?

    Lame stupid pointless event if you ask me...
     
  2. Mark_Mythic

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    Is it the dragon riders that are doing this?
     
  3. Spogfrawn

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    I never got as far as riders, it was the first lot of Bane that spawned. Completely mobbed and killed my greater dragon even though I only told it to attack Ophidians.
     
  4. Tina Small

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    Is your dragon casting arch cure right before it happens?
     
  5. Crysta

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    Sounds like the typical delay in a tame taking on the status of its owner is digging its claws into the point flagging system for the events.
     
  6. Spogfrawn

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    I don't think so. It started when I was just walking through them. The ones the other side of the mountains started it, I had to keep calling my draggon back, he kept trying to run all the way back to the start. I tried invising him and calling him off but they attacked again.
     
  7. Storm

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    I am on the bane side and the bane foot soldiers are attacking my dragon!! but not me!
     
  8. Percivalgoh

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    Could it be that the event wasn't supposed to be easy for tamers? Why don't you try invising your dragon?
     
  9. I used my GD to Kill the Bane and Save the ophidians in a Love of the Lizards type of way. Hooray for Ophidians!
     
  10. Spog said he invised dragon, etc. Read all the OPs posts - I've heard of Ophids attacking the players helping them as well. Don't think I'll jump in til this is fixed...

    Sounds like it could be a fun event...wonder what eating blackrock stew would do to dragon farts...
     
  11. Graywand

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    I had the same thing happen with my tamer. Finally just gave up and started using my pally. It was impossible to progress in loyalty with the banes.
     
  12. Mark_Mythic

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    When mobs with loyalty qualifiers look at a pet, they decide whether or not to attack based on the loyalty of the pet's master. Basically there are tags on your pet that say it is a pet and who its master is and then it just kind of looks you up.

    You might want to check your loyalty and see if it's good with the Bane Chosen. Since for every point of loyalty you gain you lose 3 from the other side, if you are not careful you can end up with negative loyalty to both sides.

    Check your loyalty and then let me know if there is still a problem.
     
  13. Yen Sid

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    There is. I went with my nuetral to both sides tamer and my dragon (greater) was attacked by the banes. I got to -ophids loyalty and +banes loyalty and they still attack my dragon. I haven't tried other pets but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the same thing will probably happen. Banes don't like pets I guess lol.
     
  14. Salya Sin

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    LOL.. there is still a problem...

    My guildmates and I... several of us tamers.. all side with the Bane. Since the beginning.. the Banes attack pets. Several of my guild mates have 2000 loyalty pts or more on the Bane side... myself.. I only have 216 with several hundred and some negative for the Ophids (I just started late last night) and all of the pets... GD's, Dreads, and Cu's get attacked by all the Bane... umm... I don't think we've had the Bane lose more than a few from wave one.. if that information helps any? And the Bane are attacking while the pets are in the middle of fighting the Ophids.

    You can invis your pet... and it will back off.. but as soon as you reveal the pet.. the Bane go right back to attacking/chasing. We've been just staying away from wherever the Bane are if possible... or max healing and ignoring it. And... the Bane do not attack us at all... they ignore us completely.
     
  15. Lorddog

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    ya same thing so i just went to back of the orphs and killed them exclusivly.
    I didnt let me dragon go near any banes.

    Lorddog
     
  16. Mapper

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    My tamer has 2500 bane points and they still attack my dragon. I think someone is going on with the coding somewhere. :(

    Whenever the Ophidians are killed and the Bane spawn to 'camp the spot' I need to run out quickly before the Banes start attacking my dragon.
     
  17. popps

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    I am really puzzled......... I do not understand.

    I thought the Event had gone through the Test server AND the Origin server before coming to all production servers.

    Has this problem with tamers' pets been spotted before either on Test or Origin ?

    It sure sounds very annoying to me......
     
  18. Tina Small

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    Popps, more people need to get involved with testing stuff before it goes to the other shards. People like you!!! Not just the same old people who do it almost every time something new comes out.
     
  19. Konge

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    Or they could just read the bug reports. Not just the first page of emails and call it a day.
     
  20. Storm

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    I have positive loyalty to the bane !! and they still attack my dragon! I have not checked my other pets like my CU I am 100% sure of this!
     
  21. Konge

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    I kinda love this, despite the original post stating the OP had positive loyalty, it's still assumed by the expert to be the player's fault, or really incompetence. Mark just gave a canned response, and no one called him on it.
     
  22. Storm

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    I just checked my cu and my mare same deal!!

    I have 90 positive karma with the bane!!!
    I can take screen shots to show it if needed!
     
  23. Cailleach

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    Happened to me right from the start too, and when I had positive with the Bane. I ended up switching to my archer to kill Ophidians and my tamer to kill Bane, just because the Bane kept attacking my drag, he'd defend, even on 'all stop, all follow' and drop my loyalty again.

    Mark, perhaps you could answer a query for me please? Will I need loyalty to Bane on my tamer for my Bane Dragon to bond to her? Because if so, I can foresee you having shards teeming with ticked off tamers!
     
  24. Zippididooda

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    been waiting for this post to come up, +350 bane side from killing ophids and the damn stupid bane attack my dragon even though I am controlling it and its helping kill the ophids that are attacking them. Im sure on a regular shard maybe this isnt as noticeable, but on siege there arent alot of poeple out there so its VERY noticable.
    and yes, I tested a cusidhe and dreadmare, same results.
    please tell me this will be fixed before the damn event is over.
     
  25. Zippididooda

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    yeah i did this too, but you get no extra points for killing near frontlines.
    I personally have very limited playtime, and this one is frustrating, especially if that means i have to kill close to 2000 freaking ophids to get quests?
    or 1000 just to get a reward?
    one thing ill add, when i FIRST started at the skirmish site I for a moment had negative towards both sides, because of course the stupid bane cant tell who is helping them.
    whoever has "Chosen" these Bane forces needs to have their heads examined.
    they dont realize that pets fighting FOR them is a good thing. durrr.
     
  26. Zippididooda

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    I would be fine with that IF thats intended. But logic would dictate to me that if Mark didnt even know about this, then Id go out on a limb and say this is a BUG!.... please fix this!
     
  27. Zippididooda

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    Is there any update to this problem? I havent realy been back out there due in some part to this.
     
  28. Lady Michelle

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    This is no different than doing the solen seed quest. Once you do it your save to enter the hive not be attacked, but not your pet. your pet is fair game :sad4:
     
  29. Ophidians are reptile.Dragons are reptile.The Bane Chosen are profiling. :p
     
  30. Scarst

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    Are no tamers that are doing this also spawners? You realize Dragons are less useful against ophidians than Cu Sidhe. And yeah dragons are gonna get attack that's why you fight bane if you want to use a dragon. Catskills first ophidian win tonight! Woot!

    Eat it tamers!
     
  31. Splup

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    Same thing as Faction mobs attack same factioneers pets and even faction horse.

    For example, silver serpents don't attack characters in TB, but their pets and even TB warhorses they attack right away.

    Same thing with ogrelords and minax, demons and SL. Wisps are ofc bit different cause of karma effect.
     
  32. Lord Chaos

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    Or perhaps Mythic should test it.
     
  33. Trebr Drab

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    I noticed that the Ophidian Ambassador in the mansion at the events tries to attack me. He's YELLOW, and he actually highlights as if attacking me for just a half second.

    So there's something causing attacks to take place first, before the scripts tell the NPCs to not attack. If this is the case, what may be happening with pets is that once the NPC performs the attack, the Pet is counter attacking, and even though the NPC script tells it not to attack, it too does a counter attacks back at the Pet. It's a loop that can't be broken by sending a stop to one.

    The cause is that you have to tag the Pets directly. From my understanding, this is an old problem with MMOs.

    Edit to add: I don't have a Pet, this is attacking my character. Although, I don't recall if I was in animal form at the time.
     
  34. popps

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    How odd, still no official comment about this pet reported problem ?

    Is it a bug ? Is it not ?

    Can players fix it on their own ? How ?

    The Event is going on but some players (tamers...) have trouble playing it with their pets, can they please get some assistance or at least for the time being information about what it is that they are experiencing ?
     
  35. Petra Fyde

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    This isn't just a problem with the bane troops. I have been killing bane on the side of the ophidians, but I daren't go near the ophidian forces or they will attack my dragon, then I lose loyalty points when he defends himself. Currently loyalty points 1305. Points are going up very slowly because I'm mostly fighting recruits on the back line.
    (plus I have to escape from Stratics before I can play at all :D )
     
  36. I agree, this attacking pets is getting to be a bit much. I've tried a variety of pets, and as a sympethizer, I'm still getting attcked by the Bane guys.

    It wouldn't be so bad, but when you lose a vast sum of points after spending alot of time building them up.......you get my drift.

    It's time consuming just getting a 1000 points, but to go after 2000 so you can get a quest to look for rare blackrock.......as another poster stated, when you have limited playtime, and you have a dragon sitting in your stable, waiting, and waiting, and waiting......
     
  37. phantus

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    Yes. I've been playing this game for over a decade and there is a problem with pets being attacked even though my loyalty states they should not. Is there going to be a fix or not?
     
  38. Spogfrawn

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    No its not the same. When I am not a friend of the solen hive they attack me. When I start nutural to Ophidians and Bane and they do NOT attack me. So if they are nutural they should not attack pets that have always been flagged as blue until you attack.
     
  39. Rand Althor

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    Maybe it's working as intended... not to be "easy" for Tamers... which is good.. hate seeing events filled with mostly tamers (I have 2 tamers myself, loved playing them till the nerfed GD's).