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Why can we not buy and sell accounts anymore?

Discussion in 'UHall' started by Razz, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. Razz

    Razz Seasoned Veteran
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    I'm just wondering why we can't buy or sell accounts anymore? I don't see a down side to having this option for people. Any thoughts?
     
  2. Kellgory

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    I think you can still buy and sell accounts they are just wanting you to use their account transfer program which in the past was around $30 if you could find anyone that knew what it was, and by doing this it wipes out all the old owners info and counts so that they can't come back a year later and try to reclaim the account. Which does happen more often then you would think.
     
  3. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    sorry... but...

    N000000b :p

    do not pursue this avenue unless you wish to learn the truth about Ultima...
     
  4. Raptor85

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    that may have been true but the recent TOS seems to spell out that you cant sell accounts at all now, and there doesnt seem to be a way with the new account system to do so anyways. (unless you create a master account for every account you play, or only have one account, but either way multiple master accounts is against the TOS also....)
     
  5. Taylor

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  6. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Since when you and I are working for the same good basic sense ? :eek:
     
  7. Razz

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    :coco:

    No idea what your trying to say here. It doesn't make any sense.
     
  8. Razz

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    Ya I'm with ya on EA stopping accoutn transfers I'm just wondering if anyone knows why. IT seems like it would only up EA revenue. I can't seem to see a downside to it.
     
  9. congratulations ... YOU got it in one ...
    hope the picture saves me the minimum thousand words ...:party:
     
  10. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    Fayled likes his men with muscles and not much brain, hence he likes to imagine me like this. I'm glad you think I deserve a thousand words !

    I am rather the Bal-Lem, the winner of the end game.

    And if you have no idea why EA prohibits account selling, you are a noob... thats what I am saying it's making lots of sense.
     
  11. Sir_Bolo

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    The UO TOS doesn't say that you cannot sell your account. In fact, it explicitly says that you can sell accounts:

    Answer

    The clause quoted by Syrius applies to a different case: you are not allowed to sell your account after it has been terminated or canceled. If I'm reading this correctly (but I'm not a lawyer...), you should still have the right to transfer an account that is active and in good standing.

    The EA TOS also says this:

    http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/

    Implying that you can sell your account if you get express authorization by EA.

    You can still find the forms for the official Account Transfer program on the UO website, but I have no idea if the procedure is still supported or how it works with the new account system - hopefully customer support knows more about it...

    ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main
     
  12. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    bit jumpy are we ? :gee:

    good morning...

    how are you?

    Oh you mean ?...
     
  13. Tazar

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    I can see several reasons to not want account transfers...

    1.) Someone sells an account but forgets to remove the account info - (Identity theft issue).

    2.) Someone sells an account for cash or gold, then calls EA to claim the account was hacked and provides account key/other details to reclaim it abusing EA's systems to pull a scam.

    3.) Someone sells an account and does not tell their friends. New account owner grabs runebook to friends houses and cleans them out.

    I am sure there are other reasons...
     
  14. Korik Bloodguard

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    You claim to have worked as a volunteer who had special code which could fix duping, black holing, and speed hacks, and yet you seem to have missed the years and years during which the OSI sanctioned account transfer process existed. You then call someone who evidently knew about this program a "N000000b", which is silly because the fact of the matter only changed with this latest move to the new billing system.

    Account transfer existed for years.
    Here's some reading material: http://www.uo.com/acct_xfer.html
     
  15. Korik Bloodguard

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    It's evident you aren't familiar with the system which was in place for years. Here's some reading material:

    ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main

    It was a great system.
     
  16. Taylor

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    Well, regardless of whether you can sell them, you cannot sell anything on Stratics for currency. This relates to our fansite agreement and recently confirmed by the developers, themselves.
     
  17. Aran

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    I'd buy that for a dollar!
     
  18. Ahuaeyjnkxs

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    I don't claim to, I do.

    And yes, I did miss those years. I left for obvious reasons at an obvious time, I was 14 years old !!! I had to get a life, since this one was STOLEN from me using meta-gaming mechanics.

    I didn't call him a noob for real... when was the last time someone did that ? Besides... if he plays siege and is of Gilfane I doubt much he's a noob at all.

    Why do serious ?

    I gave my "special secret code" away to the community as my "silent" gift to repay my debt of honor. It is UP for the taking, it is ripe for the making.

    This is serious.

    If you have any grip on how fast things are changing and why, you will understand why it's a "late billing move" and why ironically yes its late.

    And why it makes a whole lot of sense if you can understand the basic issues which will force people to take responsibility for their own ethics and that is my fellow human :

    beyond our sphere of influence

    Humbled I stand before you, before the great magnifiscience of things that are. A testament to the past ; is all my "claim" is its part of the past... and I have learned to let it go.

    You Avatar, have not learned to forgive...
     
  19. Razz

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    Pardon Tazar. I was referring to EA sanctioned account transfers. :thumbup:


    Was this agreement for sanctioned account transfers or what Tazar is referring to (see above quote).

    My reason for asking is I had to step away from UO for a couple of years and lost that time on my account. Now that I'm back I would like to have 10-12 yr account but I have no idea where to go to find one and make a properly sanctioned transfer. then I heard that EA was not allowing any account transfer at all and wondered why. It only seems like it would help withh revenue. One person leave and shutdown their old account. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would be interested in an older account to work with.
     
  20. Tazar

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    I am familiar with the official account transfer system... but I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of transfers were done without that system which lead to my concerns above. If more had used the official system (which was always poorly advertised so that few knew or could find the details when needed) we might have seen a lot less scams and thefts in game.
     
  21. Woodsman

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    Well once they add the unlinking back in it should be easy for us to do it without their service.

    But in general, videogame companies loathe the used game market and they are all working towards either discouraging it, or charging you a fee to transfer it to somebody else.
     
  22. Razz

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    I'm good with the transfer fee and prefer it for a safe transfer. I could understand on any other online game where this might be an issue since most are just money/item/level grinds. Which is how they get you to stay on and play the game. UO is a different beast though. You cant make up the years....